MLB 2025 Season

igotid88 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZTC7TcyP6E&sns=tw

two reasons in that picture for me not to watch

HesCalledDyer said:

Wobbie said:

igotid88 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZTC7TcyP6E&sns=tw

two reasons in that picture for me not to watch

Kelly's legs?

uh.....no

I love seeing Rizzo get the platinum award for the NL. Dude has been one of the best defensive first baseman in the league for years. It's great that he's finally getting recognized as such.

Predictions for MOY?

I think it will be Francona in the AL, but could be a toss up between him and Showalter. Roberts probably has the NL and rightfully so. I could be a homer and say Maddon, but the Cubs were preseason favorites to win it all. MOY, to me, should go to the manager whose team exceeded expecations.

HesCalledDyer said:

Predictions for MOY?

I think it will be Francona in the AL, but could be a toss up between him and Showalter. Roberts probably has the NL and rightfully so. I could be a homer and say Maddon, but the Cubs were preseason favorites to win it all. MOY, to me, should go to the manager whose team exceeded expecations.

By that case Mattingly should have won. Dodgers were already favorites.

HesCalledDyer said:

igotid88 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Predictions for MOY?

I think it will be Francona in the AL, but could be a toss up between him and Showalter. Roberts probably has the NL and rightfully so. I could be a homer and say Maddon, but the Cubs were preseason favorites to win it all. MOY, to me, should go to the manager whose team exceeded expecations.

By that case Mattingly should have won. Dodgers were already favorites.

They lost their ace starters (one to FA, the other to injury) and battled back from an 8 game deficit late in the season to win the division. With a first year manager. The Marlins barely improved upon 2015, still had a losing record, finished over 15 games back, weren't even close to a wild card spot, and their offense was horrible. Where exactly did Mattingly excel?

The Dodgers bullpen was the top 3 in the majors. Their offense was better. Their decisions are made by the front office. (Which is why Mattingly parted ways with them) They are in a bad division. The Giants fell apart. The Marlins were in playoff contention for most of the season. With their best hitter under performing or injured. They made a couple of bad trades at the deadline. Which hurt. They were not expected to be in the conversation. The Dodgers were at least going to be playoff contenders. And had more depth.

HesCalledDyer said:

Sorry, but a team with a losing record does not garner a MOY award. The Giants falling apart had nothing to do with Dave Roberts. He still has to manage his team to win, despite their shortcomings, during the same time as SF's decline. Mattingly only did marginally better than the dysfunction of Redmond & Jennings last year.

Girardi won with a losing record

Bochy and Matheny would get a nod before Mattingly - the Giants with the worst bullpen in baseball (30-some blown saves and still made the playoffs) and St. Louis with a bunch of injuries and in contention til the last weekend. I don't know how you could possibly think Mattingly should be mentioned in the same breath as those two, let alone the 3 finalists.

HesCalledDyer said:

igotid88 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Predictions for MOY?

I think it will be Francona in the AL, but could be a toss up between him and Showalter. Roberts probably has the NL and rightfully so. I could be a homer and say Maddon, but the Cubs were preseason favorites to win it all. MOY, to me, should go to the manager whose team exceeded expecations.

By that case Mattingly should have won. Dodgers were already favorites.

They lost their ace starters (one to FA, the other to injury) and battled back from an 8 game deficit late in the season to win the division. With a first year manager. The Marlins barely improved upon 2015, still had a losing record, finished over 15 games back, weren't even close to a wild card spot, and their offense was horrible. Where exactly did Mattingly excel?

in ID's mind, mattingly excels because he is an ex-yankee

HesCalledDyer said:

Bochy and Matheny would get a nod before Mattingly - the Giants with the worst bullpen in baseball (30-some blown saves and still made the playoffs) and St. Louis with a bunch of injuries and in contention til the last weekend. I don't know how you could possibly think Mattingly should be mentioned in the same breath as those two, let alone the 3 finalists.

I would give you Bochy. But the Cardinals have a great system. That they were hacked. Any manager would be able to do the same. Mattingly had them in playoff contention for a lot of the season. No one thought they would be any good.