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There's a penalty if you're not enrolled currently.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Should've? - who is going to enforce that?Go Beavers said:
He should've already been enrolled. In trumpword, why would anyone be enrolled? We would all be like dave.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So what happens to Dave today applying for insurance w/ cancer? - in your countryGo Beavers said:
I just pointed that out. Example: sorry dave, you have cancer. Dave enrolls in insurance the next day. Dave's $100k chemo is covered. Thanks trump!PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Stop scaring people.Go Beavers said:
Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.Go Beavers said:
They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What's w/ the slight?Go Beavers said:
I figured you'd miss out on the question.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.Go Beavers said:
He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)PJfanwillneverleave1 said:I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528
If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
To your question,
The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
Why do you think this will happen? (think critically)
President-elect Trump is saying that anyone will be able to enroll.
Up until Dave got cancer why did he need to pay insurance premiums?0 -
They are claiming they are going to replace it with HSAs. How that is a replacement of healthcare is anyone's guess.
Medicare is going to be privatized.
These are not good things.0 -
President-elect Trump is offering no penalty.Go Beavers said:
There's a penalty if you're not enrolled currently.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Should've? - who is going to enforce that?Go Beavers said:
He should've already been enrolled. In trumpword, why would anyone be enrolled? We would all be like dave.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So what happens to Dave today applying for insurance w/ cancer? - in your countryGo Beavers said:
I just pointed that out. Example: sorry dave, you have cancer. Dave enrolls in insurance the next day. Dave's $100k chemo is covered. Thanks trump!PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Stop scaring people.Go Beavers said:
Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.Go Beavers said:
They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What's w/ the slight?Go Beavers said:
I figured you'd miss out on the question.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.Go Beavers said:
He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)PJfanwillneverleave1 said:I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528
If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
To your question,
The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
Why do you think this will happen? (think critically)
President-elect Trump is saying that anyone will be able to enroll.
Up until Dave got cancer why did he need to pay insurance premiums?0 -
Ummm..that's what I'm saying. None of us will need to be enrolled, and then we enroll when we're sick. That means a lot of money going out, and not much coming in.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
President-elect Trump is offering no penalty.Go Beavers said:
There's a penalty if you're not enrolled currently.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Should've? - who is going to enforce that?Go Beavers said:
He should've already been enrolled. In trumpword, why would anyone be enrolled? We would all be like dave.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So what happens to Dave today applying for insurance w/ cancer? - in your countryGo Beavers said:
I just pointed that out. Example: sorry dave, you have cancer. Dave enrolls in insurance the next day. Dave's $100k chemo is covered. Thanks trump!PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Stop scaring people.Go Beavers said:
Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.Go Beavers said:
They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What's w/ the slight?Go Beavers said:
I figured you'd miss out on the question.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.Go Beavers said:
He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)PJfanwillneverleave1 said:I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528
If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
To your question,
The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
Why do you think this will happen? (think critically)
President-elect Trump is saying that anyone will be able to enroll.
Up until Dave got cancer why did he need to pay insurance premiums?0 -
It's hard to decipher what you mean sometimes.Go Beavers said:
Ummm..that's what I'm saying. None of us will need to be enrolled, and then we enroll when we're sick. That means a lot of money going out, and not much coming in.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
President-elect Trump is offering no penalty.Go Beavers said:
There's a penalty if you're not enrolled currently.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Should've? - who is going to enforce that?Go Beavers said:
He should've already been enrolled. In trumpword, why would anyone be enrolled? We would all be like dave.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So what happens to Dave today applying for insurance w/ cancer? - in your countryGo Beavers said:
I just pointed that out. Example: sorry dave, you have cancer. Dave enrolls in insurance the next day. Dave's $100k chemo is covered. Thanks trump!PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Stop scaring people.Go Beavers said:
Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.Go Beavers said:
They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What's w/ the slight?Go Beavers said:
I figured you'd miss out on the question.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.Go Beavers said:
He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)PJfanwillneverleave1 said:I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528
If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
To your question,
The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
Why do you think this will happen? (think critically)
President-elect Trump is saying that anyone will be able to enroll.
Up until Dave got cancer why did he need to pay insurance premiums?
Do you really think a penalty is necessary for not being enrolled?
Do you really think that all of a sudden every American will all of sudden drop their insurance with President-elect Trumps plan in place?
He is not saying to only enroll when you are sick - he is saying that pre-existing conditions that have previously denied applications will no longer be the case.
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53% of the ones who actually voted out of the 49% of all registered american humans, all genders, that voted. not 53% of america's white females. that's a massively misleading headline.lukin2006 said:Why 53 per cent of America’s white females voted for Donald Trump, even if they were offended by him
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/why-53-per-cent-of-americas-white-females-voted-for-donald-trump-even-if-they-were-offended-by-him
yup just white males voted him...
and i will not take the approach by calling people uneducated, I'll leave that for the elitists....Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Unless you have ongoing health issues, there's no reason to be enrolled in trumpworld insurance. It would be like if it wasn't required to have car insurance, but after a crash, you could enroll and have your pre-existing crash covered. No one would have car insurance in that situation. You could just spend $250 to cover the $4k body work.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It's hard to decipher what you mean sometimes.Go Beavers said:
Ummm..that's what I'm saying. None of us will need to be enrolled, and then we enroll when we're sick. That means a lot of money going out, and not much coming in.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
President-elect Trump is offering no penalty.Go Beavers said:
There's a penalty if you're not enrolled currently.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Should've? - who is going to enforce that?Go Beavers said:
He should've already been enrolled. In trumpword, why would anyone be enrolled? We would all be like dave.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So what happens to Dave today applying for insurance w/ cancer? - in your countryGo Beavers said:
I just pointed that out. Example: sorry dave, you have cancer. Dave enrolls in insurance the next day. Dave's $100k chemo is covered. Thanks trump!PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Stop scaring people.Go Beavers said:
Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.Go Beavers said:
They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What's w/ the slight?Go Beavers said:
I figured you'd miss out on the question.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.Go Beavers said:
He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)PJfanwillneverleave1 said:I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528
If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
To your question,
The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
Why do you think this will happen? (think critically)
President-elect Trump is saying that anyone will be able to enroll.
Up until Dave got cancer why did he need to pay insurance premiums?
Do you really think a penalty is necessary for not being enrolled?
Do you really think that all of a sudden every American will all of sudden drop their insurance with President-elect Trumps plan in place?
He is not saying to only enroll when you are sick - he is saying that pre-existing conditions that have previously denied applications will no longer be the case.0 -
You are wasting your time GBMonkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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Agreed, I wouldn't pay out of my paycheck monthly for something I may need, but could sign up for when I did. Just plan your yearly check up and ride it out. Need a prescription refilled, sign back upGo Beavers said:
Unless you have ongoing health issues, there's no reason to be enrolled in trumpworld insurance. It would be like if it wasn't required to have car insurance, but after a crash, you could enroll and have your pre-existing crash covered. No one would have car insurance in that situation. You could just spend $250 to cover the $4k body work.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It's hard to decipher what you mean sometimes.Go Beavers said:
Ummm..that's what I'm saying. None of us will need to be enrolled, and then we enroll when we're sick. That means a lot of money going out, and not much coming in.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
President-elect Trump is offering no penalty.Go Beavers said:
There's a penalty if you're not enrolled currently.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Should've? - who is going to enforce that?Go Beavers said:
He should've already been enrolled. In trumpword, why would anyone be enrolled? We would all be like dave.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So what happens to Dave today applying for insurance w/ cancer? - in your countryGo Beavers said:
I just pointed that out. Example: sorry dave, you have cancer. Dave enrolls in insurance the next day. Dave's $100k chemo is covered. Thanks trump!PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Stop scaring people.Go Beavers said:
Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.Go Beavers said:
They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
What's w/ the slight?Go Beavers said:
I figured you'd miss out on the question.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.Go Beavers said:
He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)PJfanwillneverleave1 said:I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528
If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
To your question,
The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
Why do you think this will happen? (think critically)
President-elect Trump is saying that anyone will be able to enroll.
Up until Dave got cancer why did he need to pay insurance premiums?
Do you really think a penalty is necessary for not being enrolled?
Do you really think that all of a sudden every American will all of sudden drop their insurance with President-elect Trumps plan in place?
He is not saying to only enroll when you are sick - he is saying that pre-existing conditions that have previously denied applications will no longer be the case.
Unless you're terminally sick or pregnant, most people wouldn't be enrolled, especially middle class and low income families. Where's the insurance company going to make up all that lost revenue? There'd be a huge loss of jobs.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
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Health and car insurance are two different ballgames.
President-elect Trumps plan will require price transparency from all healthcare providers, especially doctors and healthcare organizations like clinics and hospitals. Individuals should be able to shop to find the best prices for procedures, exams or any other medical-related procedure. He proposes to allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system.
He also proposes to modify the existing law that inhibits the sale of health insurance across state lines. As long as the plan purchased complies with state requirements, any vendor ought to be able to offer insurance in any state. By allowing full competition in this market, insurance costs will go down and consumer satisfaction will go up.
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There is mo evidence to support that. It is just a logical extension of Reaganomic principles that have objectively failed.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
Health and car insurance are two different ballgames.
President-elect Trumps plan will require price transparency from all healthcare providers, especially doctors and healthcare organizations like clinics and hospitals. Individuals should be able to shop to find the best prices for procedures, exams or any other medical-related procedure. He proposes to allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system.
He also proposes to modify the existing law that inhibits the sale of health insurance across state lines. As long as the plan purchased complies with state requirements, any vendor ought to be able to offer insurance in any state. By allowing full competition in this market, insurance costs will go down and consumer satisfaction will go up.
The premium deduction, in combination with his other tax cuts would ensure that tax revenues would fall to incredible lows, which will be a problem for a leader who wants to increase spending in other areas.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
how come the OP hasn't changed the thread title to President Elect-Trump, he's the next POTUS ...I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon0 -
If you focus on building a healthy society and giving people the tools to keep them healthy they will be more active in the workforce generating more income tax revenue.rgambs said:
There is mo evidence to support that. It is just a logical extension of Reaganomic principles that have objectively failed.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
Health and car insurance are two different ballgames.
President-elect Trumps plan will require price transparency from all healthcare providers, especially doctors and healthcare organizations like clinics and hospitals. Individuals should be able to shop to find the best prices for procedures, exams or any other medical-related procedure. He proposes to allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system.
He also proposes to modify the existing law that inhibits the sale of health insurance across state lines. As long as the plan purchased complies with state requirements, any vendor ought to be able to offer insurance in any state. By allowing full competition in this market, insurance costs will go down and consumer satisfaction will go up.
The premium deduction, in combination with his other tax cuts would ensure that tax revenues would fall to incredible lows, which will be a problem for a leader who wants to increase spending in other areas.0 -
Why? Even those of us who approve of Obama call him just that, Obama.lukin2006 said:how come the OP hasn't changed the thread title to President Elect-Trump, he's the next POTUS ...
Not, Mr President Barack Obama.
There is no need for so much formality.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
See you Americans lack respect for your leaders, here in Canada each and every one of us refer to our Prime Minister correctly...I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon0 -
I have not heard you call President-elect Trump by name yet only derogatory terms.rgambs said:
Why? Even those of us who approve of Obama call him just that, Obama.lukin2006 said:how come the OP hasn't changed the thread title to President Elect-Trump, he's the next POTUS ...
Not, Mr President Barack Obama.
There is no need for so much formality.0 -
Sure, that's true. Not enough to make a difference though.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
If you focus on building a healthy society and giving people the tools to keep them healthy they will be more active in the workforce generating more income tax revenue.rgambs said:
There is mo evidence to support that. It is just a logical extension of Reaganomic principles that have objectively failed.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
Health and car insurance are two different ballgames.
President-elect Trumps plan will require price transparency from all healthcare providers, especially doctors and healthcare organizations like clinics and hospitals. Individuals should be able to shop to find the best prices for procedures, exams or any other medical-related procedure. He proposes to allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system.
He also proposes to modify the existing law that inhibits the sale of health insurance across state lines. As long as the plan purchased complies with state requirements, any vendor ought to be able to offer insurance in any state. By allowing full competition in this market, insurance costs will go down and consumer satisfaction will go up.
The premium deduction, in combination with his other tax cuts would ensure that tax revenues would fall to incredible lows, which will be a problem for a leader who wants to increase spending in other areas.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
I call him Trump. I have and I will continue to. It is not done in disrespect.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I have not heard you call President-elect Trump by name yet only derogatory terms.rgambs said:
Why? Even those of us who approve of Obama call him just that, Obama.lukin2006 said:how come the OP hasn't changed the thread title to President Elect-Trump, he's the next POTUS ...
Not, Mr President Barack Obama.
There is no need for so much formality.
Same with Sanders and Clinton and Bush and so on.
That's just how I roll, I'm a last name guy.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
I was being very sarcastic, most call him either PM, Justin or Trudeau and I sometimes call him PM sunny ways...hahahaha.I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon0
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