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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    edited October 2016
    So behave in any way that will counteract illogical and biased stigmas?
    It really shouldn't matter to anyone if some weed supporters are hippy drippy. It's irrelevant. That such a thing could negatively affect people's view on this topic says something about those who are so bothered by it, not about the people who happen to have a particular harmless lifestyle. Hey, that kind of thing isn't my thing either, but I don't discriminate against those people and their way of expressing themselves. That seems rely superficial to me. It take all kinds. That is fine with me.
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    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    PJ_Soul said:

    So behave in any way that will counteract illogical and biased stigmas?
    It really shouldn't matter to anyone if some weed supporters are hippy drippy. It's irrelevant. That such a thing could negatively affect people's view on this topic says something about those who are so bothered by it, not about the people who happen to have a particular harmless lifestyle. Hey, that kind of thing isn't my thing either, but I don't discriminate against those people and their way of expressing themselves. That seems rely superficial to me. It take all kinds. That is fine with me.

    Some of that hippy thing is fine. Of course. Why not! It's a part of our culture. But just a part. What I'm suggesting is just lets please not make it all a "hippy thing".
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    So behave in any way that will counteract illogical and biased stigmas?
    It really shouldn't matter to anyone if some weed supporters are hippy drippy. It's irrelevant. That such a thing could negatively affect people's view on this topic says something about those who are so bothered by it, not about the people who happen to have a particular harmless lifestyle. Hey, that kind of thing isn't my thing either, but I don't discriminate against those people and their way of expressing themselves. That seems rely superficial to me. It take all kinds. That is fine with me.

    Some of that hippy thing is fine. Of course. Why not! It's a part of our culture. But just a part. What I'm suggesting is just lets please not make it all a "hippy thing".
    It isn't though.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    So behave in any way that will counteract illogical and biased stigmas?
    It really shouldn't matter to anyone if some weed supporters are hippy drippy. It's irrelevant. That such a thing could negatively affect people's view on this topic says something about those who are so bothered by it, not about the people who happen to have a particular harmless lifestyle. Hey, that kind of thing isn't my thing either, but I don't discriminate against those people and their way of expressing themselves. That seems rely superficial to me. It take all kinds. That is fine with me.

    Some of that hippy thing is fine. Of course. Why not! It's a part of our culture. But just a part. What I'm suggesting is just lets please not make it all a "hippy thing".
    It isn't though.
    Good to know.

    And it's not that I hate hippies. Hippies are fun loving and colorful and generally very peaceful. It's just that as I got older I became less passive, less laissez-faire and more action and work oriented. I should have been born a decade later and joined Black Flag.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,509
    most, if not all of the pro-legalization stuff i read has zero to do with getting high and watching tv. it's all about the healing effects of cannibis oil and other offshoots.
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    PJ_Soul said:

    So behave in any way that will counteract illogical and biased stigmas?
    It really shouldn't matter to anyone if some weed supporters are hippy drippy. It's irrelevant. That such a thing could negatively affect people's view on this topic says something about those who are so bothered by it, not about the people who happen to have a particular harmless lifestyle. Hey, that kind of thing isn't my thing either, but I don't discriminate against those people and their way of expressing themselves. That seems rely superficial to me. It take all kinds. That is fine with me.

    the 60's have come and gone (I was there...very young but there) the hippy thing is a great advertising gimmick but if you want to
    change the world you have to play with the big dogs and they're not hippies..nobody takes the hippy thing seriously anymore it had it's time and real hippies have grown old and changed to better fight the "establishment" ...why did I even go there ? but anyway PJ my post was just an idea to help further a cause..that's all.

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    So behave in any way that will counteract illogical and biased stigmas?
    It really shouldn't matter to anyone if some weed supporters are hippy drippy. It's irrelevant. That such a thing could negatively affect people's view on this topic says something about those who are so bothered by it, not about the people who happen to have a particular harmless lifestyle. Hey, that kind of thing isn't my thing either, but I don't discriminate against those people and their way of expressing themselves. That seems rely superficial to me. It take all kinds. That is fine with me.

    Some of that hippy thing is fine. Of course. Why not! It's a part of our culture. But just a part. What I'm suggesting is just lets please not make it all a "hippy thing".
    It isn't though.
    Good to know.

    And it's not that I hate hippies. Hippies are fun loving and colorful and generally very peaceful. It's just that as I got older I became less passive, less laissez-faire and more action and work oriented. I should have been born a decade later and joined Black Flag.
    lol !

    Godfather.


  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    GF, I was born in 1965. Have partaken of the plant since the late 70s and doing pretty well overall in life, though I get some aren't. I may be off, but would generally attribute that to other factors and personal choices vs. the green itself.

    I love getting a buzz on as much as the next Beavis, but it really has been a godsend when it comes to relieving my pain. No one should be denied that resource, especially one without so many fucked up side-effects.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    hedonist said:

    GF, I was born in 1965. Have partaken of the plant since the late 70s and doing pretty well overall in life, though I get some aren't. I may be off, but would generally attribute that to other factors and personal choices vs. the green itself.

    I love getting a buzz on as much as the next Beavis, but it really has been a godsend when it comes to relieving my pain. No one should be denied that resource, especially one without so many fucked up side-effects.


    Doing the math, that means you toked up before you turned 15! Got me beat by a year or two there (but I'm older-- nanner nanner!)
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    hedonist said:

    GF, I was born in 1965. Have partaken of the plant since the late 70s and doing pretty well overall in life, though I get some aren't. I may be off, but would generally attribute that to other factors and personal choices vs. the green itself.

    I love getting a buzz on as much as the next Beavis, but it really has been a godsend when it comes to relieving my pain. No one should be denied that resource, especially one without so many fucked up side-effects.

    no problem my friend I would agree.
    my only advise was to change advertising .

    Godfather.

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    So behave in any way that will counteract illogical and biased stigmas?
    It really shouldn't matter to anyone if some weed supporters are hippy drippy. It's irrelevant. That such a thing could negatively affect people's view on this topic says something about those who are so bothered by it, not about the people who happen to have a particular harmless lifestyle. Hey, that kind of thing isn't my thing either, but I don't discriminate against those people and their way of expressing themselves. That seems rely superficial to me. It take all kinds. That is fine with me.

    Some of that hippy thing is fine. Of course. Why not! It's a part of our culture. But just a part. What I'm suggesting is just lets please not make it all a "hippy thing".
    It isn't though.
    In many cases, it is. In Ohio they sent out a mascot named Buddy to bars dressed as a nug. Stuff like that is detrimental.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,509
    brianlux said:

    hedonist said:

    GF, I was born in 1965. Have partaken of the plant since the late 70s and doing pretty well overall in life, though I get some aren't. I may be off, but would generally attribute that to other factors and personal choices vs. the green itself.

    I love getting a buzz on as much as the next Beavis, but it really has been a godsend when it comes to relieving my pain. No one should be denied that resource, especially one without so many fucked up side-effects.


    Doing the math, that means you toked up before you turned 15! Got me beat by a year or two there (but I'm older-- nanner nanner!)
    14 here. 3 of us standing on a very busy street directly under a glowing street lamp, all huddled over a bowl.

    we were fucking brilliant, I tells ya.
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    brianlux said:

    hedonist said:

    GF, I was born in 1965. Have partaken of the plant since the late 70s and doing pretty well overall in life, though I get some aren't. I may be off, but would generally attribute that to other factors and personal choices vs. the green itself.

    I love getting a buzz on as much as the next Beavis, but it really has been a godsend when it comes to relieving my pain. No one should be denied that resource, especially one without so many fucked up side-effects.


    Doing the math, that means you toked up before you turned 15! Got me beat by a year or two there (but I'm older-- nanner nanner!)
    14 here. 3 of us standing on a very busy street directly under a glowing street lamp, all huddled over a bowl.

    we were fucking brilliant, I tells ya.
    Summer I turned 14 here. In our backyard by the pool, dusk, with my sister and her best friend. I even have a Polaroid (ha, talk about old-school) of having Visine put in my eyes after.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    hedonist said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    brianlux said:

    hedonist said:

    GF, I was born in 1965. Have partaken of the plant since the late 70s and doing pretty well overall in life, though I get some aren't. I may be off, but would generally attribute that to other factors and personal choices vs. the green itself.

    I love getting a buzz on as much as the next Beavis, but it really has been a godsend when it comes to relieving my pain. No one should be denied that resource, especially one without so many fucked up side-effects.


    Doing the math, that means you toked up before you turned 15! Got me beat by a year or two there (but I'm older-- nanner nanner!)
    14 here. 3 of us standing on a very busy street directly under a glowing street lamp, all huddled over a bowl.

    we were fucking brilliant, I tells ya.
    Summer I turned 14 here. In our backyard by the pool, dusk, with my sister and her best friend. I even have a Polaroid (ha, talk about old-school) of having Visine put in my eyes after.
    A Polaroid? How fashionable. Who would have thought that hedo is a closet hipster?
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    oftenreading said:

    hedonist said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    brianlux said:

    hedonist said:

    GF, I was born in 1965. Have partaken of the plant since the late 70s and doing pretty well overall in life, though I get some aren't. I may be off, but would generally attribute that to other factors and personal choices vs. the green itself.

    I love getting a buzz on as much as the next Beavis, but it really has been a godsend when it comes to relieving my pain. No one should be denied that resource, especially one without so many fucked up side-effects.


    Doing the math, that means you toked up before you turned 15! Got me beat by a year or two there (but I'm older-- nanner nanner!)
    14 here. 3 of us standing on a very busy street directly under a glowing street lamp, all huddled over a bowl.

    we were fucking brilliant, I tells ya.
    Summer I turned 14 here. In our backyard by the pool, dusk, with my sister and her best friend. I even have a Polaroid (ha, talk about old-school) of having Visine put in my eyes after.
    A Polaroid? How fashionable. Who would have thought that hedo is a closet hipster?
    :no_mouth:
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    edited October 2016
    rgambs said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    So behave in any way that will counteract illogical and biased stigmas?
    It really shouldn't matter to anyone if some weed supporters are hippy drippy. It's irrelevant. That such a thing could negatively affect people's view on this topic says something about those who are so bothered by it, not about the people who happen to have a particular harmless lifestyle. Hey, that kind of thing isn't my thing either, but I don't discriminate against those people and their way of expressing themselves. That seems rely superficial to me. It take all kinds. That is fine with me.

    Some of that hippy thing is fine. Of course. Why not! It's a part of our culture. But just a part. What I'm suggesting is just lets please not make it all a "hippy thing".
    It isn't though.
    In many cases, it is. In Ohio they sent out a mascot named Buddy to bars dressed as a nug. Stuff like that is detrimental.
    That maybe be silly, but it's definitely not hippy. ;)
    Anyway, I don't see why it matters. Everyone is aware of the issues that matter here, which is tax revenue and massive new domestic industry that will provide jobs and business opportunities, as well as seeing that those who feel that it helps them medically have free access to it. Some mascot in an Ohio bar doesn't matter. If anyone thinks it does, that is their problem and a demonstration of their own illogical biases, not that of the people who feel like advertising the cause in a fun way.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Question for those of us who were under aged (I was 16) when we used pot for the first time: How would you feel if your under-aged kid got high and you found out? Tough question!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I don't have children, but if I did, I wouldn't feel bad about them having tried it and I'd be up front with them about my own experiences.

    Pretty sure my niece and nephew indulged in their teens but my sister and BIL act like they've never touched the stuff themselves. Kind of silly, to me.

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    brianlux said:

    Question for those of us who were under aged (I was 16) when we used pot for the first time: How would you feel if your under-aged kid got high and you found out? Tough question!

    I was 13.
    I don't have kids, but I have a good memory of being one. I actually wouldn't much mind if my kid was just using it occasionally in terms of them using it for recreation. I would be more worried about them doing something illegal and getting caught. So I would 100% discourage it for that reason. And even if it were legal, it wouldn't be for someone under the legal age. So I would discourage it obviously. And I would also be extremely concerned if they were using it a lot (like daily), or at school or whatever. A kid is too impressionable at that age - they shouldn't be developing while constantly high; it could mess them up in all kinds of various ways. I know I would feel a lot better about my kid smoking a bit of weed than I would about them drinking though, since drunk kids are fucking idiots. But at the end of the day, nobody is going to be able to stop a kid from doing either of these things if the kid wants to do it (and honestly, how many teenagers don't?? I don't even think it's normal for a kid to get through high school without drinking at some party or smoking a joint in the woods) .... The best parents can do is teach them about it all, and hopefully how to make good decisions for themselves. At least well enough so that they don't get into cars when people under the influence are driving, and so that they don't do crazy stupid shit like get high and then balance along a bridge railing or get into the back of some stranger's van because he offers a hit off a bong.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    Question for those of us who were under aged (I was 16) when we used pot for the first time: How would you feel if your under-aged kid got high and you found out? Tough question!

    I was 13.
    I don't have kids, but I have a good memory of being one. I actually wouldn't much mind if my kid was just using it occasionally in terms of them using it for recreation. I would be more worried about them doing something illegal and getting caught. So I would 100% discourage it for that reason. And even if it were legal, it wouldn't be for someone under the legal age. So I would discourage it obviously. And I would also be extremely concerned if they were using it a lot (like daily), or at school or whatever. A kid is too impressionable at that age - they shouldn't be developing while constantly high; it could mess them up in all kinds of various ways. I know I would feel a lot better about my kid smoking a bit of weed than I would about them drinking though, since drunk kids are fucking idiots. But at the end of the day, nobody is going to be able to stop a kid from doing either of these things if the kid wants to do it (and honestly, how many teenagers don't?? I don't even think it's normal for a kid to get through high school without drinking at some party or smoking a joint in the woods) .... The best parents can do is teach them about it all, and hopefully how to make good decisions for themselves. At least well enough so that they don't get into cars when people under the influence are driving, and so that they don't do crazy stupid shit like get high and then balance along a bridge railing or get into the back of some stranger's van because he offers a hit off a bong.
    Pretty much what I think as well. I especially like the part about being open with kids teaching them about making good decisions.

    I think it would also depend on how mature the kid is at a certain age. Some kids mature faster and are less apt to do something stupid. If I had a kid and he or she got caught smoking pot at school or while driving, I would tell them that obviously they're not mature enough to at least not get caught or smoke and drive and that they should know better about where and when to do something like that.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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