Start another marijuana thread, please.

fife · September 2016

PJ_Soul said:

Godfather. said:

PJ_Soul said:
Vancouver just approved it's second and third safe injection sites last week or so after many years of studying the first one (InSite), and I think I read the Toronto is finally approving one based on the success of the Vancouver model. They definitely work to save lives, reduce needle-share diseases, and help people access recovery.
that just blows me away, I'm not knocking it at all it's just the thought of the state providing a "safe injection site" what's next a "safe fencing operation" for home burglars ? LOL ! I just have a hard time imagining that, makes me think of how many over dose deaths happen at these sites ? and is that their way of controlling the drug addict population ?

Godfather.

The main purpose of these sites is to prevent OD deaths and make sure everyone is as safe as possible. I am not sure what you're picturing here... are you imagining like a "free zone" where they can shoot up without being bothered by police? Because these are organized buildings where people go and sit at tables, and are provided clean needles in clean, brightly lit rooms that are fully monitored by counsellors and those trained to immediately deal with over doses and provide information for those ready to seek recovery, along with other resource information that is helpful to them.

I remember going to Vancouver about 5 years ago and going to the insite and it was amazing. made me very proud for some strange reason

lukin2006 · September 2016

I'm all for safe injection site's, I think all drugs should be legal, however lets first get pot legal worldwide, because we are a long ways off from pot legalization everywhere...pot laws are based on complete bullshit and big pharma. The same fucking people telling us we can't do pot are same fuckers downing scotch every night, hope they are smoking a joint though, saw a study where early research indicated pot can protect heavy drinkers livers....hmmm. Yeah real harmful

fife · September 2016

lukin2006 said:
I'm all for safe injection site's, I think all drugs should be legal, however lets first get pot legal worldwide, because we are a long ways off from pot legalization everywhere...pot laws are based on complete bullshit and big pharma. The same fucking people telling us we can't do pot are same fuckers downing scotch every night, hope they are smoking a joint though, saw a study where early research indicated pot can protect heavy drinkers livers....hmmm. Yeah real harmful

to be honest, i sometimes forget that pot is still illegal in so many places.

fife · September 2016

lukin2006 said:
I'm all for safe injection site's, I think all drugs should be legal, however lets first get pot legal worldwide, because we are a long ways off from pot legalization everywhere...pot laws are based on complete bullshit and big pharma. The same fucking people telling us we can't do pot are same fuckers downing scotch every night, hope they are smoking a joint though, saw a study where early research indicated pot can protect heavy drinkers livers....hmmm. Yeah real harmful

Can I ask why we can't make all drugs legal all at once? Considering that crack and meth users face more hardships from the police than say pot smokers?

lukin2006 · September 2016

fife said:

lukin2006 said:
I'm all for safe injection site's, I think all drugs should be legal, however lets first get pot legal worldwide, because we are a long ways off from pot legalization everywhere...pot laws are based on complete bullshit and big pharma. The same fucking people telling us we can't do pot are same fuckers downing scotch every night, hope they are smoking a joint though, saw a study where early research indicated pot can protect heavy drinkers livers....hmmm. Yeah real harmful
Can I ask why we can't make all drugs legal all at once? Considering that crack and meth users face more hardships from the police than say pot smokers?

For me I'd rather focus on what realistically we could hope for, I think weed is really close to being legal here in Canada, that's a major step. Then for me how would the police be able to properly assess for so many different drugs coming online all at once, there'd have to be some sort of test that could determine if someone is the impaired for so many different toxins, probably need to develope a roadside blood test that police can administer...I'm not really sure how they'd check, there still working on some sort of way to check for pot impairment before they proceed with legalization...baby steps, I say.

Godfather. · October 2016

fife said:

Godfather. said:

PJ_Soul said:
Vancouver just approved it's second and third safe injection sites last week or so after many years of studying the first one (InSite), and I think I read the Toronto is finally approving one based on the success of the Vancouver model. They definitely work to save lives, reduce needle-share diseases, and help people access recovery.
that just blows me away, I'm not knocking it at all it's just the thought of the state providing a "safe injection site" what's next a "safe fencing operation" for home burglars ? LOL ! I just have a hard time imagining that, makes me think of how many over dose deaths happen at these sites ? and is that their way of controlling the drug addict population ?

Godfather.

Hey Godfather, you do ask a good question. recently, the Vancouver safe sites have noticed an increase in overdoes but none have resulted in deaths. if there were no injection sites, that would not have been the case, there would have been more deaths. reports say that the increase in overdoses were linked to the dangerous opioid fentanyl

Godfather.

Godfather. · October 2016

but...if these injection sites are helping save lives then cool, I just can't wrap around the idea.

Godfather.

brianlux · October 2016

Godfather. said:

fife said:

Godfather. said:

PJ_Soul said:
Vancouver just approved it's second and third safe injection sites last week or so after many years of studying the first one (InSite), and I think I read the Toronto is finally approving one based on the success of the Vancouver model. They definitely work to save lives, reduce needle-share diseases, and help people access recovery.
that just blows me away, I'm not knocking it at all it's just the thought of the state providing a "safe injection site" what's next a "safe fencing operation" for home burglars ? LOL ! I just have a hard time imagining that, makes me think of how many over dose deaths happen at these sites ? and is that their way of controlling the drug addict population ?

Godfather.

Hey Godfather, you do ask a good question. recently, the Vancouver safe sites have noticed an increase in overdoes but none have resulted in deaths. if there were no injection sites, that would not have been the case, there would have been more deaths. reports say that the increase in overdoses were linked to the dangerous opioid fentanyl

a short true story if I may.. some friends of mine (back in 85 or so) were partying and decided to go get some heroin so they went down town in san diego to a guy who sold it, well one of them did a larger dose than usual and OD'd and well to make a long story short they all (3 or them) freaked out and demeaned to be taken home and the dumb-ass who was driving left the guy who O.D'd in his car over night and found him the next morning dead, these guy's...all of us had been friends since we were in Jr. High school and I got a call that morning from one of them telling me Dave died and I cursed all three of those fucking pussies and told them they killed Dave, they could of taken him to a hospital and run but they didn't and to this day I have very little respect for any of them...
so anyway I learned that friends who are drug addicts are not them selves and not to be trusted, drugs change people and not for the better trust me, so anyway that's one reason I just don't get the safe injection sites.

Godfather.

Bummer, Godfather. No doubt those guys regret splitting on the guy.

First of all let me say this- I hate heroin. Never tried it, never will. But it's the drug that is horrible, not the users. If I said I hated all heroin users I would have to ditch half my record collection. The reason safe injection sites makes sense is so that users will NOT very likely OD and die. That's the whole point of making them safe sites. Users will use regardless. Unless we just don't care about these people and are willing to let them die, it makes sense to give them more safety. Along with that would also come more opportunities for recovery/ detox.

Godfather. · October 2016

brianlux said:

Godfather. said:

fife said:

Godfather. said:

PJ_Soul said:
Vancouver just approved it's second and third safe injection sites last week or so after many years of studying the first one (InSite), and I think I read the Toronto is finally approving one based on the success of the Vancouver model. They definitely work to save lives, reduce needle-share diseases, and help people access recovery.
that just blows me away, I'm not knocking it at all it's just the thought of the state providing a "safe injection site" what's next a "safe fencing operation" for home burglars ? LOL ! I just have a hard time imagining that, makes me think of how many over dose deaths happen at these sites ? and is that their way of controlling the drug addict population ?

Godfather.

Hey Godfather, you do ask a good question. recently, the Vancouver safe sites have noticed an increase in overdoes but none have resulted in deaths. if there were no injection sites, that would not have been the case, there would have been more deaths. reports say that the increase in overdoses were linked to the dangerous opioid fentanyl

a short true story if I may.. some friends of mine (back in 85 or so) were partying and decided to go get some heroin so they went down town in san diego to a guy who sold it, well one of them did a larger dose than usual and OD'd and well to make a long story short they all (3 or them) freaked out and demeaned to be taken home and the dumb-ass who was driving left the guy who O.D'd in his car over night and found him the next morning dead, these guy's...all of us had been friends since we were in Jr. High school and I got a call that morning from one of them telling me Dave died and I cursed all three of those fucking pussies and told them they killed Dave, they could of taken him to a hospital and run but they didn't and to this day I have very little respect for any of them...
so anyway I learned that friends who are drug addicts are not them selves and not to be trusted, drugs change people and not for the better trust me, so anyway that's one reason I just don't get the safe injection sites.

Godfather.

Bummer, Godfather. No doubt those guys regret splitting on the guy.

First of all let me say this- I hate heroin. Never tried it, never will. But it's the drug that is horrible, not the users. If I said I hated all heroin users I would have to ditch half my record collection. The reason safe injection sites makes sense is so that users will NOT very likely OD and die. That's the whole point of making them safe sites. Users will use regardless. Unless we just don't care about these people and are willing to let them die, it makes sense to give them more safety. Along with that would also come more opportunities for recovery/ detox.

true enough Amigo, you"re right and there's no arguing that.
you mentioned "record collection" I'm a record junkie myself LOL !

Godfather.

brianlux · October 2016

Godfather. said:

brianlux said:

Godfather. said:

fife said:

Godfather. said:

PJ_Soul said:
Vancouver just approved it's second and third safe injection sites last week or so after many years of studying the first one (InSite), and I think I read the Toronto is finally approving one based on the success of the Vancouver model. They definitely work to save lives, reduce needle-share diseases, and help people access recovery.
that just blows me away, I'm not knocking it at all it's just the thought of the state providing a "safe injection site" what's next a "safe fencing operation" for home burglars ? LOL ! I just have a hard time imagining that, makes me think of how many over dose deaths happen at these sites ? and is that their way of controlling the drug addict population ?

Godfather.

Hey Godfather, you do ask a good question. recently, the Vancouver safe sites have noticed an increase in overdoes but none have resulted in deaths. if there were no injection sites, that would not have been the case, there would have been more deaths. reports say that the increase in overdoses were linked to the dangerous opioid fentanyl

a short true story if I may.. some friends of mine (back in 85 or so) were partying and decided to go get some heroin so they went down town in san diego to a guy who sold it, well one of them did a larger dose than usual and OD'd and well to make a long story short they all (3 or them) freaked out and demeaned to be taken home and the dumb-ass who was driving left the guy who O.D'd in his car over night and found him the next morning dead, these guy's...all of us had been friends since we were in Jr. High school and I got a call that morning from one of them telling me Dave died and I cursed all three of those fucking pussies and told them they killed Dave, they could of taken him to a hospital and run but they didn't and to this day I have very little respect for any of them...
so anyway I learned that friends who are drug addicts are not them selves and not to be trusted, drugs change people and not for the better trust me, so anyway that's one reason I just don't get the safe injection sites.

Godfather.

Bummer, Godfather. No doubt those guys regret splitting on the guy.

First of all let me say this- I hate heroin. Never tried it, never will. But it's the drug that is horrible, not the users. If I said I hated all heroin users I would have to ditch half my record collection. The reason safe injection sites makes sense is so that users will NOT very likely OD and die. That's the whole point of making them safe sites. Users will use regardless. Unless we just don't care about these people and are willing to let them die, it makes sense to give them more safety. Along with that would also come more opportunities for recovery/ detox.
true enough Amigo, you"re right and there's arguing that.
you mentioned "record collection" I'm a record junkie myself LOL !

Godfather.

Excellent! Nothing like 'em! Like an idiot, I dumped a lot of records when CD's came out and had to spend years (and dollars!) rebuilding my collection.

And now look who is veering off topic!

Godfather. · October 2016

brianlux said:

Godfather. said:

brianlux said:

Godfather. said:

fife said:

Godfather. said:

PJ_Soul said:
Vancouver just approved it's second and third safe injection sites last week or so after many years of studying the first one (InSite), and I think I read the Toronto is finally approving one based on the success of the Vancouver model. They definitely work to save lives, reduce needle-share diseases, and help people access recovery.
that just blows me away, I'm not knocking it at all it's just the thought of the state providing a "safe injection site" what's next a "safe fencing operation" for home burglars ? LOL ! I just have a hard time imagining that, makes me think of how many over dose deaths happen at these sites ? and is that their way of controlling the drug addict population ?

Godfather.

Hey Godfather, you do ask a good question. recently, the Vancouver safe sites have noticed an increase in overdoes but none have resulted in deaths. if there were no injection sites, that would not have been the case, there would have been more deaths. reports say that the increase in overdoses were linked to the dangerous opioid fentanyl

a short true story if I may.. some friends of mine (back in 85 or so) were partying and decided to go get some heroin so they went down town in san diego to a guy who sold it, well one of them did a larger dose than usual and OD'd and well to make a long story short they all (3 or them) freaked out and demeaned to be taken home and the dumb-ass who was driving left the guy who O.D'd in his car over night and found him the next morning dead, these guy's...all of us had been friends since we were in Jr. High school and I got a call that morning from one of them telling me Dave died and I cursed all three of those fucking pussies and told them they killed Dave, they could of taken him to a hospital and run but they didn't and to this day I have very little respect for any of them...
so anyway I learned that friends who are drug addicts are not them selves and not to be trusted, drugs change people and not for the better trust me, so anyway that's one reason I just don't get the safe injection sites.

Godfather.

Bummer, Godfather. No doubt those guys regret splitting on the guy.

First of all let me say this- I hate heroin. Never tried it, never will. But it's the drug that is horrible, not the users. If I said I hated all heroin users I would have to ditch half my record collection. The reason safe injection sites makes sense is so that users will NOT very likely OD and die. That's the whole point of making them safe sites. Users will use regardless. Unless we just don't care about these people and are willing to let them die, it makes sense to give them more safety. Along with that would also come more opportunities for recovery/ detox.
true enough Amigo, you"re right and there's arguing that.
you mentioned "record collection" I'm a record junkie myself LOL !

Godfather.

Excellent! Nothing like 'em! Like an idiot, I dumped a lot of records when CD's came out and had to spend years (and dollars!) rebuilding my collection.

And now look who is veering off topic!

yeah I sold about 200+ of mine as well......mistake.

Godfather.

PJ_Soul · October 2016

Godfather. said:

brianlux said:

Godfather. said:

brianlux said:

Godfather. said:

fife said:

Godfather. said:

PJ_Soul said:
Vancouver just approved it's second and third safe injection sites last week or so after many years of studying the first one (InSite), and I think I read the Toronto is finally approving one based on the success of the Vancouver model. They definitely work to save lives, reduce needle-share diseases, and help people access recovery.
that just blows me away, I'm not knocking it at all it's just the thought of the state providing a "safe injection site" what's next a "safe fencing operation" for home burglars ? LOL ! I just have a hard time imagining that, makes me think of how many over dose deaths happen at these sites ? and is that their way of controlling the drug addict population ?

Godfather.

Hey Godfather, you do ask a good question. recently, the Vancouver safe sites have noticed an increase in overdoes but none have resulted in deaths. if there were no injection sites, that would not have been the case, there would have been more deaths. reports say that the increase in overdoses were linked to the dangerous opioid fentanyl

a short true story if I may.. some friends of mine (back in 85 or so) were partying and decided to go get some heroin so they went down town in san diego to a guy who sold it, well one of them did a larger dose than usual and OD'd and well to make a long story short they all (3 or them) freaked out and demeaned to be taken home and the dumb-ass who was driving left the guy who O.D'd in his car over night and found him the next morning dead, these guy's...all of us had been friends since we were in Jr. High school and I got a call that morning from one of them telling me Dave died and I cursed all three of those fucking pussies and told them they killed Dave, they could of taken him to a hospital and run but they didn't and to this day I have very little respect for any of them...
so anyway I learned that friends who are drug addicts are not them selves and not to be trusted, drugs change people and not for the better trust me, so anyway that's one reason I just don't get the safe injection sites.

Godfather.

Bummer, Godfather. No doubt those guys regret splitting on the guy.

First of all let me say this- I hate heroin. Never tried it, never will. But it's the drug that is horrible, not the users. If I said I hated all heroin users I would have to ditch half my record collection. The reason safe injection sites makes sense is so that users will NOT very likely OD and die. That's the whole point of making them safe sites. Users will use regardless. Unless we just don't care about these people and are willing to let them die, it makes sense to give them more safety. Along with that would also come more opportunities for recovery/ detox.
true enough Amigo, you"re right and there's arguing that.
you mentioned "record collection" I'm a record junkie myself LOL !

Godfather.

Excellent! Nothing like 'em! Like an idiot, I dumped a lot of records when CD's came out and had to spend years (and dollars!) rebuilding my collection.

And now look who is veering off topic!
yeah I sold about 200+ of mine as well......mistake.

Godfather.

Abandoning records for cassette tapes and then CDs was the stupidest thing I have ever done. Okay, I was only about 12 at the time, but still.... I hate to think about all those records I would have bought for all those years, if only I hadn't chosen portability over awesomeness and quality. Stupid Sony and their Walkman, lol. I wish I'd just forced myself to be content with the radio outside of the house. Stupid shitty radio, lol. If they had been better maybe I'd still have the greatest vinyl collection in the city by now.

jeffbr · October 2016

Looks like the cops in Massachusetts are doing what they can while they can, before MA legalizes weed. What a bunch of assholes. Swooping in with a military style helicopter, big show of force, all for a single plant being grown and used by a little old lady with glaucoma. Great use of taxpayer money!

Raid! National Guard, State Police descend on 81-year-old’s property to seize single pot plant

Cutler said it’s likely that authorities are using budgeted funds, prior to the end of the federal fiscal year Saturday, to gas up helicopters and do flyovers.

“We’re seeing the last throes of police hostility to the changing laws,” Cutler said. “They’re taking the position that if it’s in plain view, it’s somehow illegal.”

PJ_Soul · October 2016

The citizens shouldn't stand for that. They should protest until whoever was responsible for that bullshit is fired or resigns, seriously. Start a witch hunt for the person ultimately responsible, use the media the fuel it. Imagine choosing to use up a surplus like that! Surely they could have used it for some sort of good! How about some extra training on how to handle people with mental illness or something???

my2hands · October 2016

jeffbr said:
Looks like the cops in Massachusetts are doing what they can while they can, before MA legalizes weed. What a bunch of assholes. Swooping in with a military style helicopter, big show of force, all for a single plant being grown and used by a little old lady with glaucoma. Great use of taxpayer money!

Raid! National Guard, State Police descend on 81-year-old’s property to seize single pot plant

Cutler said it’s likely that authorities are using budgeted funds, prior to the end of the federal fiscal year Saturday, to gas up helicopters and do flyovers.

“We’re seeing the last throes of police hostility to the changing laws,” Cutler said. “They’re taking the position that if it’s in plain view, it’s somehow illegal.”

Perfect... their idiotic actions helps prove the point... bravo

brianlux · October 2016

my2hands said:

jeffbr said:
Looks like the cops in Massachusetts are doing what they can while they can, before MA legalizes weed. What a bunch of assholes. Swooping in with a military style helicopter, big show of force, all for a single plant being grown and used by a little old lady with glaucoma. Great use of taxpayer money!

Raid! National Guard, State Police descend on 81-year-old’s property to seize single pot plant

Cutler said it’s likely that authorities are using budgeted funds, prior to the end of the federal fiscal year Saturday, to gas up helicopters and do flyovers.

“We’re seeing the last throes of police hostility to the changing laws,” Cutler said. “They’re taking the position that if it’s in plain view, it’s somehow illegal.”

Perfect... their idiotic actions helps prove the point... bravo

Good point!

I hope the woman who was harassed in such a ridiculous manner is getting lots of support... and a little herb tucked under her door mat!

fife · October 2016

While this is a stupid use of funding look at the bigger picture. How much do we spend on the war on drugs.

brianlux · October 2016

fife said:
While this is a stupid use of funding look at the bigger picture. How much do we spend on the war on drugs.

In my life time? Enough to end poverty in the U.S. and probably many other places. In 2010 alone the U.S. spend $15 billion dollars on the war on drugs. Fifteen fuckin' billion.

Go Beavers · October 2016

my2hands said:

jeffbr said:
Looks like the cops in Massachusetts are doing what they can while they can, before MA legalizes weed. What a bunch of assholes. Swooping in with a military style helicopter, big show of force, all for a single plant being grown and used by a little old lady with glaucoma. Great use of taxpayer money!

Raid! National Guard, State Police descend on 81-year-old’s property to seize single pot plant

Cutler said it’s likely that authorities are using budgeted funds, prior to the end of the federal fiscal year Saturday, to gas up helicopters and do flyovers.

“We’re seeing the last throes of police hostility to the changing laws,” Cutler said. “They’re taking the position that if it’s in plain view, it’s somehow illegal.”

Perfect... their idiotic actions helps prove the point... bravo

Hey, it's just a few bad apples!

oftenreading · October 2016

I'm curious about the opinions of those posting in this thread about the strength of the evidence of medicinal marijuana's efficacy for different medical conditions. What do people thinks/believe about this? Do you think the evidence is good, fair, poor? Do people view the state of the evidence as important, or irrelevant?

Start another marijuana thread, please.

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