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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Free said:

    lukin2006 said:

    Back to the topic ... just saw on the news that here in Canada the race is on to find a road side breathalyzer that can detect if someone is high, I believe they (police) are experimenting with different units...personally I doubt many high people are driving, they are more likely to just relax and enjoy, the drunks are the problem...

    I think there are more high people driving then you think. Bummer on the breathalyzer front. Drunks are a LOT more dangerous.
    You could be right, there might be more than I think ... when I got more time I'll search and see if Washington or Colorado has published stats. Bummer on the breathalyzer because they've possibly developed one or they don't know how well it works?
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    lukin2006 said:

    Free said:

    lukin2006 said:

    Back to the topic ... just saw on the news that here in Canada the race is on to find a road side breathalyzer that can detect if someone is high, I believe they (police) are experimenting with different units...personally I doubt many high people are driving, they are more likely to just relax and enjoy, the drunks are the problem...

    I think there are more high people driving then you think. Bummer on the breathalyzer front. Drunks are a LOT more dangerous.
    You could be right, there might be more than I think ... when I got more time I'll search and see if Washington or Colorado has published stats. Bummer on the breathalyzer because they've possibly developed one or they don't know how well it works?
    One problem with a breathalyzer for weed is that is that there are Cannabidiol-rich (CBD) products that have some of the medicinal benefits of pot but give little or no high. Would these people get busted even though not high when driving?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    edited September 2016
    brianlux said:

    lukin2006 said:

    Free said:

    lukin2006 said:

    Back to the topic ... just saw on the news that here in Canada the race is on to find a road side breathalyzer that can detect if someone is high, I believe they (police) are experimenting with different units...personally I doubt many high people are driving, they are more likely to just relax and enjoy, the drunks are the problem...

    I think there are more high people driving then you think. Bummer on the breathalyzer front. Drunks are a LOT more dangerous.
    You could be right, there might be more than I think ... when I got more time I'll search and see if Washington or Colorado has published stats. Bummer on the breathalyzer because they've possibly developed one or they don't know how well it works?
    One problem with a breathalyzer for weed is that is that there are Cannabidiol-rich (CBD) products that have some of the medicinal benefits of pot but give little or no high. Would these people get busted even though not high when driving?
    I'm not a 100% sure, but I think CBD gives no high, as long as there is a very low THC content...I'm sure someone can chime in who knows more. Pot is only illegal because of the pharmaceutical industry...some of that shit their pushing should be illegal...lol.
    Post edited by lukin2006 on
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    CBD gives no high. It's helped some the few times I've used it.

    Much prefer the buzzed state but when you're working and are in pain? Gotta go the other route till I can get home and light a bowl...my preferential place to be when getting high to begin with.

    I've driven after taking a hit as I have after having had a glass of wine. But, I'm self-aware enough at this point that if I feel impaired in any way to get behind the wheel, it's Uber or a taxi. The alternative is just not worth it.

    As to the breathalyzer, I'm not sure it can be gauged as accurately as for alcohol. Look at how long ago it was used, body fat, etc.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    hedonist said:

    CBD gives no high. It's helped some the few times I've used it.

    Much prefer the buzzed state but when you're working and are in pain? Gotta go the other route till I can get home and light a bowl...my preferential place to be when getting high to begin with.

    I've driven after taking a hit as I have after having had a glass of wine. But, I'm self-aware enough at this point that if I feel impaired in any way to get behind the wheel, it's Uber or a taxi. The alternative is just not worth it.

    As to the breathalyzer, I'm not sure it can be gauged as accurately as for alcohol. Look at how long ago it was used, body fat, etc.

    Thank you for the info, never used just CBD, I prefer the buzzed state as well.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    lukin2006 said:

    hedonist said:

    CBD gives no high. It's helped some the few times I've used it.

    Much prefer the buzzed state but when you're working and are in pain? Gotta go the other route till I can get home and light a bowl...my preferential place to be when getting high to begin with.

    I've driven after taking a hit as I have after having had a glass of wine. But, I'm self-aware enough at this point that if I feel impaired in any way to get behind the wheel, it's Uber or a taxi. The alternative is just not worth it.

    As to the breathalyzer, I'm not sure it can be gauged as accurately as for alcohol. Look at how long ago it was used, body fat, etc.

    Thank you for the info, never used just CBD, I prefer the buzzed state as well.
    Someone once said, "If you feel bad you may as well feel good." Makes sense.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,569
    In Oregon, the transition seemed pretty smooth. It was pretty prevalent for years since possession was reduced to a "violation" and medical weed has been legal for over 10 years. About a year after it was made legal, the retail stores started up (maybe last fall). The tax revenue has been about 3x larger than what the state expected. It's monitored by the Oregon Liquor Control Commission, which made good sense. The news out of Washington seems like they have more layers of bureaucracy added on. The retailers and growers very much want to be viewed as ligit. As far as what's different from where I am, I smell it a little more while riding my bike around town, and there seems to be a little more at live shows. People are a bit more loose with it at night outside of bars/brewpubs. The social acceptance part is interesting. I'm sure it depends on age and social circles. What I pick up is that people are rather neutral in conversations about it. Friends will talk about smoking up, but I haven't heard in any professional type people talking about lighting up like they might talk about drinking beer. At work we might talk about beer, but no one has brought up weed! Sometimes I still can't believe it's legal when I think back to living in Indiana 25 years ago and it was such a sneaky, subversive thing. Now all I need to do is walk in a store and buy it. To answer your original question, yes, we Shall!! (except for Utah, Kansas, and South Carolina)
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Go Beavers said:

    In Oregon, the transition seemed pretty smooth. It was pretty prevalent for years since possession was reduced to a "violation" and medical weed has been legal for over 10 years. About a year after it was made legal, the retail stores started up (maybe last fall). The tax revenue has been about 3x larger than what the state expected. It's monitored by the Oregon Liquor Control Commission, which made good sense. The news out of Washington seems like they have more layers of bureaucracy added on. The retailers and growers very much want to be viewed as ligit. As far as what's different from where I am, I smell it a little more while riding my bike around town, and there seems to be a little more at live shows. People are a bit more loose with it at night outside of bars/brewpubs. The social acceptance part is interesting. I'm sure it depends on age and social circles. What I pick up is that people are rather neutral in conversations about it. Friends will talk about smoking up, but I haven't heard in any professional type people talking about lighting up like they might talk about drinking beer. At work we might talk about beer, but no one has brought up weed! Sometimes I still can't believe it's legal when I think back to living in Indiana 25 years ago and it was such a sneaky, subversive thing. Now all I need to do is walk in a store and buy it. To answer your original question, yes, we Shall!! (except for Utah, Kansas, and South Carolina)

    Interesting point there, GB. Now that you mention it, I have noticed it's a subject generally avoided in certain circles. I live in a fairly conservative enclave of California so things are probably a lot more reserved here socially that way and yet pot is still obviously wide spread here. I would say of the peers that I engage with on a regular basis, most are OK with it but only a few talk about it so it's hard to say how many imbibe. The generation following us boomers seems a lot more open about it. And the folks who hang at at the local food co-op and at the coffee houses that cater to the younger hippies and hipsters- well, I can't imagine there are many strangers to the herb in those places.

    And I know what you mean about how the view of pot has changed. Even in California in the late sixties there was a lot of resistance to weed. In my first year in school living in a dorm at San Francisco State, dorms were raided one weekend when I was away at home. Guys were getting busted for tiny amounts, even just for seeds. And yet you saw people smoking joints on campus or on the streets downtown and always clouds of weed hanging over Golden Gate Park. Weird time there in the City By the Bay.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,665
    Damn right it should be legalized why is it that I can right now purchase a wine press get my own grapes and make wine , it should be legal for every American citizen to be able to grow your own weed if you choose too ! I've grown my own the last two yrs and it's been so rewarding as far as my enjoyment goes I can now make my own eatables & oil , hash all from one plant plus my friends benefit from it I don't sell it rather I'm generous with it ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Legalize it.
    Don't criticize it.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWgSMiisRCM
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    ^^^ Oh man, what a great little interchange there, Hedo. Thanks so much for posting it. Just great.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • weddingparade
    weddingparade Posts: 1,179
    i really think we are on a good wave. colorado is proof it works. if a lot of states vote the right way this fall then there will be a massive wave next year. people gotta vote...
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Legalize all drugs.

    End the drug war.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    Legalize it. There are lot worse things in the world to worry about.

    I don't know how I feel about other drugs. If they become even easier to get more people will get hooked on them, and I can't think of many positive side effects to cocaine and heroin.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    bootlegger10 said:

    Legalize it. There are lot worse things in the world to worry about.

    I don't know how I feel about other drugs. If they become even easier to get more people will get hooked on them, and I can't think of many positive side effects to cocaine and heroin.

    The key there is educate. Making something illegal can be enticing, exciting, exotic. Showing a kid a photo of someone who has been doing a lot of meth is more likely to repulse them than anything.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    brianlux said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    Legalize it. There are lot worse things in the world to worry about.

    I don't know how I feel about other drugs. If they become even easier to get more people will get hooked on them, and I can't think of many positive side effects to cocaine and heroin.

    The key there is educate. Making something illegal can be enticing, exciting, exotic. Showing a kid a photo of someone who has been doing a lot of meth is more likely to repulse them than anything.
    I recently watched the "Breaking Bad" series and after seeing some of the meth junkies on that show (acting I know) I wouldn't ever want to try it.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    bootlegger10 said:

    brianlux said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    Legalize it. There are lot worse things in the world to worry about.

    I don't know how I feel about other drugs. If they become even easier to get more people will get hooked on them, and I can't think of many positive side effects to cocaine and heroin.

    The key there is educate. Making something illegal can be enticing, exciting, exotic. Showing a kid a photo of someone who has been doing a lot of meth is more likely to repulse them than anything.
    I recently watched the "Breaking Bad" series and after seeing some of the meth junkies on that show (acting I know) I wouldn't ever want to try it.
    Exactly!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    unsung said:

    Legalize all drugs.

    End the drug war.

    For once we agree on something.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    Legalize all drugs.

    End the drug war.

    For once we agree on something.
    Maybe we should all gather around the hookah here once in a while!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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