JonBenet Ramsey

Gern Blansten · September 2016

Has anyone been following the recent specials on this case?

I had read the book "Perfect Murder: Perfect Town" and was convinced that the mother didn't do it. Now I'm not so sure.

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-case-of-jonbenet-ramsey-everything-we-learned-so-far-w440647

Wma31394 · September 2016

I haven't been folllowing...from what i remember all signs pointed to parents correct??

BLACK35 · September 2016

Been watching a bit. I don't think the parents did it. I think there is too much other stuff that was never taken into consideration early on and now its too late. Forgien DNA in the underwear that can't belong to anyone in the immediate family, hand writing experts cleared Patsy, convicted pedophile in area when murder happened that was never looked at, etc.
One question though, is their son Burke a little handy/special??? Watched him on Dr. Phil and he had such a smug look on his face when answering questions. I don't think he had anything to do with it, but man I wanted to smack him.

Gern Blansten · September 2016

BLACK35 said:
Been watching a bit. I don't think the parents did it. I think there is too much other stuff that was never taken into consideration early on and now its too late. Forgien DNA in the underwear that can't belong to anyone in the immediate family, hand writing experts cleared Patsy, convicted pedophile in area when murder happened that was never looked at, etc.
One question though, is their son Burke a little handy/special??? Watched him on Dr. Phil and he had such a smug look on his face when answering questions. I don't think he had anything to do with it, but man I wanted to smack him.

Did handwriting experts clear her? I don't find anything about that...

I was a little disappointed in the series on the ID Network last week. It was really trying to sensationalize everything.

The show last night on CBS seemed to place a lot of weight on the 911 operator. Why? We heard the calls...everyone heard the recordings of the calls. They acted like it was a big oversight to not interview the 911 operator before.

Gern Blansten · September 2016

The DNA is huge....last night while watching the first part of the series I kept reminding myself of that.

The ID series put a lot of weight on the handwriting...their expert said they couldn't rule out Patsy. It does seem odd to me that the note seemed to be written by a female, the garotte was from Patsy's painting items, the knot on the garotte and the slipknots on JonBenet's wrists were clearly from someone who tied a lot of knots/sewed, etc.

Crazy shit

brianlux · September 2016

I wouldn't be surprised to learn the kid is alive and a lot of people have been laughing all the way to the bank. But that's just my cynical take on things like this that are considered so-called "newsworthy".

Degeneratefk · September 2016

brianlux said:
I wouldn't be surprised to learn the kid is alive and a lot of people have been laughing all the way to the bank. But that's just my cynical take on things like this that are considered so-called "newsworthy".

What what what?

Gern Blansten · September 2016

brianlux said:
I wouldn't be surprised to learn the kid is alive and a lot of people have been laughing all the way to the bank. But that's just my cynical take on things like this that are considered so-called "newsworthy".

Kind of hard to be alive and well after an autopsy.

brianlux · September 2016

Like I said, it was a cynical response. These kinds of issues end up selling tons of books in that most deplorable section of a bookstore know as "true crime". It's rotten fodder for the brain, not news.

elvistheking44 · September 2016

brianlux said:
Like I said, it was a cynical response. These kinds of issues end up selling tons of books in that most deplorable section of a bookstore know as "true crime". It's rotten fodder for the brain, not news.

It's certainly news. I little girl was murdered and no one was ever convicted of the crime. As a father i would fight till my death to keep this in the news....unless I was involved.....

Gern Blansten · September 2016

brianlux said:
Like I said, it was a cynical response. These kinds of issues end up selling tons of books in that most deplorable section of a bookstore know as "true crime". It's rotten fodder for the brain, not news.

Disagree...to me it's very interesting.

brianlux · September 2016

elvistheking44 said:

brianlux said:
Like I said, it was a cynical response. These kinds of issues end up selling tons of books in that most deplorable section of a bookstore know as "true crime". It's rotten fodder for the brain, not news.
It's certainly news. I little girl was murdered and no one was ever convicted of the crime. As a father i would fight till my death to keep this in the news....unless I was involved.....

Yes, as a personal matter, it would be devastating and vastly important. As a titillating "news" item you will read about a lot more in People Magazine than in The Guardian or Huffington Post or any more serious news source. Like I said, brain fodder for the masses.

Gern Blansten · September 2016

brianlux said:

elvistheking44 said:

brianlux said:
Like I said, it was a cynical response. These kinds of issues end up selling tons of books in that most deplorable section of a bookstore know as "true crime". It's rotten fodder for the brain, not news.
It's certainly news. I little girl was murdered and no one was ever convicted of the crime. As a father i would fight till my death to keep this in the news....unless I was involved.....
Yes, as a personal matter, it would be devastating and vastly important. As a titillating "news" item you will read about a lot more in People Magazine than in The Guardian or Huffington Post or any more serious news source. Like I said, brain fodder for the masses.

I guess this thread isn't for you then. It's for us idiots that find it (the murder, the investigation, the reaction) interesting.

hedonist · September 2016

brianlux said:

elvistheking44 said:

brianlux said:
Like I said, it was a cynical response. These kinds of issues end up selling tons of books in that most deplorable section of a bookstore know as "true crime". It's rotten fodder for the brain, not news.
It's certainly news. I little girl was murdered and no one was ever convicted of the crime. As a father i would fight till my death to keep this in the news....unless I was involved.....
Yes, as a personal matter, it would be devastating and vastly important. As a titillating "news" item you will read about a lot more in People Magazine than in The Guardian or Huffington Post or any more serious news source. Like I said, brain fodder for the masses.

With all the energy directed toward and spent on people locked up for crimes they didn't commit, amid other injustices, unsolved murders, assholes who rape and serve virtually no time, and on...ad nauseum...I just don't understand how further investigation into the death of a little girl is considered unworthy or thrilling to watch, or fitting of putting quotation marks around her situation.

Shit, I still think about the young man who disappeared in Columbus several years ago. The thread about him is still stickied on the Porch.

Heavy circumstances all around, and just not cool in my book to make light of it.

brianlux · September 2016

I'm not making light of anything. I'm not saying that any of you here are not sincere in your concern. What I am saying is that to my way of seeing things, this is just another sensationalist item that many people get wrapped up in the way they do a reality TV show. To many, it is purely entertainment. You can't deny that is true. And those are the people who are not taking something like this seriously, not me.

OK, that my two cents. No need to get into yet another argument on the Train. I'll not post here anymore.

Gern Blansten · September 2016

brianlux said:
I'm not making light of anything. I'm not saying that any of you here are not sincere in your concern. What I am saying is that to my way of seeing things, this is just another sensationalist item that many people get wrapped up in the way they do a reality TV show. To many, it is purely entertainment. You can't deny that is true. And those are the people who are not taking something like this seriously, not me.

OK, that my two cents. No need to get into yet another argument on the Train. I'll not post here anymore.

I don't see anything sensationalist about it at all. Some people are merely seeing if current methods might uncover a different conclusion or maybe new information.

I don't find it entertaining at all. I find it very sad that a six year old girl was killed. I would like to know what the fuck happened.

2-feign-reluctance · September 2016

brianlux said:
Like I said, it was a cynical response. These kinds of issues end up selling tons of books in that most deplorable section of a bookstore know as "true crime". It's rotten fodder for the brain, not news.

Like the Biggie and Tupac living on an island somewhere type of theory?

Free · September 2016

Ah the media. Must be a slow time for them, to bring back a what - 20 year old murder mystery - w/ the mother now dead so they can warp it more for even more heads spinning, new "evidence", "angles", whathaveyou.

A captive audience is all the mass media needs to make this a 'current' story. Yawn.

Free · September 2016

brianlux said:

elvistheking44 said:

brianlux said:
Like I said, it was a cynical response. These kinds of issues end up selling tons of books in that most deplorable section of a bookstore know as "true crime". It's rotten fodder for the brain, not news.
It's certainly news. I little girl was murdered and no one was ever convicted of the crime. As a father i would fight till my death to keep this in the news....unless I was involved.....
Yes, as a personal matter, it would be devastating and vastly important. As a titillating "news" item you will read about a lot more in People Magazine than in The Guardian or Huffington Post or any more serious news source. Like I said, brain fodder for the masses.

People Mag of course! Anything this tabloid deems important to cover after all this time, because they can rehash asything and get read, is a worthy scheme to get people to believe...

...because the other news they'd rather you not read is Hillary's health.

hedonist · September 2016

Free said:
Ah the media. Must be a slow time for them, to bring back a what - 20 year old murder mystery - w/ the mother now dead so they can warp it more for even more heads spinning, new "evidence", "angles", whathaveyou.

A captive audience is all the mass media needs to make this a 'current' story. Yawn.

Ah the condescension. It's being discussed, so what? Many cold cases get re-examined and re-investigated at some point. Some even get solved!

Someone feels it's BS, a spin, a distraction for suckers, fine. Someone feels the need to give shit and talk down (surprise!) to those who don't think it is, who are interested in what may have really happened? The horror. Just unconscionable.

(by the way, I hope you're one of those who covers their mouths when they yawn)

Free · September 2016

The story is 20 years old! If you perceive that as condescension, you're wrong. It's a damn fact!

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