America's Gun Violence

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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    CM189191 said:

    Godfather. said:

    gun's don't think for themselves.

    Same could be said for the 3%, the Oath Keepers, the Tea Party, Preppers, the Michigan Militia, the Klan, etc. These morons have no place in modern society. Unfortunately, you can't outlaw stupidity.
    Thanks for proving it.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Godfather. said:

    good grief ! give up your own rights just leave mine alone. fabricated facts and nonsense seem to be the train way.

    Godfather.

    This is not how the constitution works, it's kind of an all or nothing scenario...
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,444
    Guns don't kill people



    Gun owners kill people
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,516
    Bentleyspop said:

    Guns don't kill people



    Gun owners kill people

    with guns.
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,380
    Bentleyspop said:

    Guns don't kill people



    Gun owners kill people

    Taking this logic further, if gun owners kill people, and we wish to kill less people per capita, we can reduce the number of gun owners by reducing the number of guns. Or am I missing something?
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    benjs said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    Guns don't kill people



    Gun owners kill people

    Taking this logic further, if gun owners kill people, and we wish to kill less people per capita, we can reduce the number of gun owners by reducing the number of guns. Or am I missing something?
    how insightful
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    Or, non-gun owners can just reproduce exponentially and then gun owners per capita would go down. Just throwing that out there.
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,380
    CM189191 said:

    benjs said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    Guns don't kill people



    Gun owners kill people

    Taking this logic further, if gun owners kill people, and we wish to kill less people per capita, we can reduce the number of gun owners by reducing the number of guns. Or am I missing something?
    how insightful
    I know that it's a "fucking duh" statement, but save for executing or exiling gun owners, it's an absurd deflection to make that guns don't kill people - people do. If guns are used as a means to that end, and the only downside if putting more stringent restrictions on it is that some lose their ability to participate in a sport they enjoy, there seems to be a "fucking duh" course of action that's equally "insightful".
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,516
    edited September 2016
    CM189191 said:

    benjs said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    Guns don't kill people



    Gun owners kill people

    Taking this logic further, if gun owners kill people, and we wish to kill less people per capita, we can reduce the number of gun owners by reducing the number of guns. Or am I missing something?
    how insightful
    tell that to the people on here who openly claim that less guns equals more deaths.
    Post edited by HughFreakingDillon on
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Bentleyspop said:

    Guns don't kill people



    Gun owners kill people

    Unless you are Adam Lanza.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited September 2016
    benjs said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    Guns don't kill people



    Gun owners kill people

    Taking this logic further, if gun owners kill people, and we wish to kill less people per capita, we can reduce the number of gun owners by reducing the number of guns. Or am I missing something?
    Then comes the question of "how". How do you plan on reducing the number of guns in a way that people would actually comply with? A very very small percentage of guns in regards to the total owned by civilians are actually used in crimes.
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  • OffSheGoes35
    OffSheGoes35 Posts: 3,517
    mace1229 said:

    Or, non-gun owners can just reproduce exponentially and then gun owners per capita would go down. Just throwing that out there.

    Hippie. :lol:
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I think we should just execute the gang members that commit a majority of these crimes.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,675
    unsung said:

    I think we should just execute the gang members that commit a majority of these crimes.

    So just execute the gang members but still have the same amount of guns ok will that put an end to gangs or would more gangs just keep on populating and stepping in the place of the dead members ?
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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    unsung said:

    I think we should just execute the gang members that commit a majority of these crimes.

    o you believe we should do that for anyone who commits a crime with a gun?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I know, I know, you don't want to reduce your voting base.

    Ok fine, can we at least call it what it is?

    I'm Chicago metro, all they talk about is gun violence, yet I think it's gang violence.

    Does that make sense or am I misguided in wanted to address the source?
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited September 2016
    unsung said:

    I know, I know, you don't want to reduce your voting base.

    Ok fine, can we at least call it what it is?

    I'm Chicago metro, all they talk about is gun violence, yet I think it's gang violence.

    Does that make sense or am I misguided in wanted to address the source?

    Exactly, and these gang members are getting their guns from the same places they're getting their drugs. I highly doubt they would all the sudden jump through legal hoops created by further buyer restrictions in order to obtain their firearms. I posted an article a couple pages back showing how Australia's gun violence is "boomeranging" (haha) because of the criminal trade...and they are on a fucking island!
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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    PJPOWER said:

    unsung said:

    I know, I know, you don't want to reduce your voting base.

    Ok fine, can we at least call it what it is?

    I'm Chicago metro, all they talk about is gun violence, yet I think it's gang violence.

    Does that make sense or am I misguided in wanted to address the source?

    Exactly, and these gang members are getting their guns from the same places they're getting their drugs. I highly doubt they would all the sudden jump through legal hoops created by further buyer restrictions in order to obtain their firearms.
    can i asked where they are getting their guns from?
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    fife said:

    PJPOWER said:

    unsung said:

    I know, I know, you don't want to reduce your voting base.

    Ok fine, can we at least call it what it is?

    I'm Chicago metro, all they talk about is gun violence, yet I think it's gang violence.

    Does that make sense or am I misguided in wanted to address the source?

    Exactly, and these gang members are getting their guns from the same places they're getting their drugs. I highly doubt they would all the sudden jump through legal hoops created by further buyer restrictions in order to obtain their firearms.
    can i asked where they are getting their guns from?
    stolen, then sold illegally
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    mace1229 said:

    fife said:

    PJPOWER said:

    unsung said:

    I know, I know, you don't want to reduce your voting base.

    Ok fine, can we at least call it what it is?

    I'm Chicago metro, all they talk about is gun violence, yet I think it's gang violence.

    Does that make sense or am I misguided in wanted to address the source?

    Exactly, and these gang members are getting their guns from the same places they're getting their drugs. I highly doubt they would all the sudden jump through legal hoops created by further buyer restrictions in order to obtain their firearms.
    can i asked where they are getting their guns from?
    stolen, then sold illegally
    so would it be better that there are less gun in public to be stolen?
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