America's Gun Violence
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FYI - I'm learning disabled (in auditory learning). I also graduated university with a B.Eng. in Structural Engineering, for what it's worth. I've also suffered from depression. Are you listing these points to suggest that my learning disability should disqualify me from driving or carrying a weapon (not that I'd want to do the latter ever)?OffSheGoes35 said:
Statistics from the link:Degeneratefk said:
Or you can read the link I posted. I didn't say they were the same. I said there was a link between them.PJ_Soul said:
Absolutely. MUCH different. If you don't think there is much difference between the two, sorry, you're just plain old wrong. And you need to educate yourself about learning disabilities.Bentleyspop said:
In defense of GF he clearly stated his friend has a "learning disability". This doesn't mean that someone has a "mental disability ". Two different things.Degeneratefk said:
You've already stated he has a mental disability, so that right there should disqualify him to own a gun. I'm not so sure I like people driving with those diabilities. One should be able to read and fill out his own forms to drive and own a gun.Godfather. said:
why ? do you think not being able to read or write affects his judgment with a gun ?Degeneratefk said:
I don't think he should have a gun or a license.Godfather. said:ridiculous arguments, if a person wants to migrate to America then speaking English should be their first priority, try working with a person or group of people that can't speak English........it sucks !
but back to the original question, learning to read before gun ownership ? ...it kind of helps when your filling out the forms when buying a gun
because as we all know a simple cash exchange when buying a gun just don't happen anymore Unless your buying off the black market.
a guy I grew up with has a learning disability and couldn't read or write a word(still can't) but has a very successful flooring business and his wife dose all his paper work and tax's etc and he has an awesome gun collection he's legally collected, has a drivers lic.owns a nice home and basically has everything he needs or wants (he couldn't even spell his own name)
Godfather.
Godfather.
•People with learning disabilities demonstrate the complete spectrum of mental health problems, with higher prevalence than found in those without learning disabilities (Source: Mental Health Nursing of Adults with Learning Disabilities
•The prevalence of dementia is much higher amongst older adults with learning disabilities compared to the general population (21.6% vs 5.7% aged 65+) (Source: Cooper, 1997a)
•People with Down's syndrome are at particularly high risk of developing dementia, with an age of onset 30-40 years younger than the general population (Source: Holland et al., 1998).
•Prevalence rates for schizophrenia in people with learning disabilities are approximately three times greater than for the general population (3% vs 1%) (Source: Doody et al., 1998)
•Reported prevalence rates for anxiety and depression amongst people with learning disabilities vary widely, but are generally reported to be at least as prevalent as the general population (Source: Stavrakaki, 1999), and higher amongst people with Down's syndrome (Source: Collacott et al., 1998)
•Challenging behaviours (aggression, destruction, self-injury and others) are shown by 10%-15% of people with learning disabilities, with age-specific prevalence peaking between ages 20 and 49 (Source: Emerson et al.,2001) (Sources taken from Key Highlights of Research Evidence on the Health of People with Learning [Intellectual] Disabilities'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Congratulations on your accomplishments, benjs. I was listing the points to be helpful. If you want to chew me out over it, go for it. Maybe then I'll learn my lesson.0
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A line should be drawn somewhere. Not saying where, but somewhere.benjs said:
FYI - I'm learning disabled (in auditory learning). I also graduated university with a B.Eng. in Structural Engineering, for what it's worth. I've also suffered from depression. Are you listing these points to suggest that my learning disability should disqualify me from driving or carrying a weapon (not that I'd want to do the latter ever)?OffSheGoes35 said:
Statistics from the link:Degeneratefk said:
Or you can read the link I posted. I didn't say they were the same. I said there was a link between them.PJ_Soul said:
Absolutely. MUCH different. If you don't think there is much difference between the two, sorry, you're just plain old wrong. And you need to educate yourself about learning disabilities.Bentleyspop said:
In defense of GF he clearly stated his friend has a "learning disability". This doesn't mean that someone has a "mental disability ". Two different things.Degeneratefk said:
You've already stated he has a mental disability, so that right there should disqualify him to own a gun. I'm not so sure I like people driving with those diabilities. One should be able to read and fill out his own forms to drive and own a gun.Godfather. said:
why ? do you think not being able to read or write affects his judgment with a gun ?Degeneratefk said:
I don't think he should have a gun or a license.Godfather. said:ridiculous arguments, if a person wants to migrate to America then speaking English should be their first priority, try working with a person or group of people that can't speak English........it sucks !
but back to the original question, learning to read before gun ownership ? ...it kind of helps when your filling out the forms when buying a gun
because as we all know a simple cash exchange when buying a gun just don't happen anymore Unless your buying off the black market.
a guy I grew up with has a learning disability and couldn't read or write a word(still can't) but has a very successful flooring business and his wife dose all his paper work and tax's etc and he has an awesome gun collection he's legally collected, has a drivers lic.owns a nice home and basically has everything he needs or wants (he couldn't even spell his own name)
Godfather.
Godfather.
•People with learning disabilities demonstrate the complete spectrum of mental health problems, with higher prevalence than found in those without learning disabilities (Source: Mental Health Nursing of Adults with Learning Disabilities
•The prevalence of dementia is much higher amongst older adults with learning disabilities compared to the general population (21.6% vs 5.7% aged 65+) (Source: Cooper, 1997a)
•People with Down's syndrome are at particularly high risk of developing dementia, with an age of onset 30-40 years younger than the general population (Source: Holland et al., 1998).
•Prevalence rates for schizophrenia in people with learning disabilities are approximately three times greater than for the general population (3% vs 1%) (Source: Doody et al., 1998)
•Reported prevalence rates for anxiety and depression amongst people with learning disabilities vary widely, but are generally reported to be at least as prevalent as the general population (Source: Stavrakaki, 1999), and higher amongst people with Down's syndrome (Source: Collacott et al., 1998)
•Challenging behaviours (aggression, destruction, self-injury and others) are shown by 10%-15% of people with learning disabilities, with age-specific prevalence peaking between ages 20 and 49 (Source: Emerson et al.,2001) (Sources taken from Key Highlights of Research Evidence on the Health of People with Learning [Intellectual] Disabilitieswill myself to find a home, a home within myself
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Great, I haven't heard of anyone here being pro-gun-violence in term of unlawful use. Just different opinions as to how to go about lessening unlawful gun violence.Bentleyspop said:0 -
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Must be nice to have the money for personal bodyguards.Bentleyspop said:0 -
There's a lot of nutty people out there.unsung said:
Must be nice to have the money for personal bodyguards.Bentleyspop said:
Don't compare a celebrity's legitimate need for protection from them with the average Joe's paranoid need for an AR15 to protect themselves from the boogeyman."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Regardless, are you saying that celebrity rights should be extended beyond that average Joe? That's pretty elitist. Do the body guards having guns add an element of safety and protection to the celebrity or does the fact that they are carrying guns put that celebrity at more risk of harm? I can guarantee that nutty people don't only hang out around celebrities. More often than not, they are opportunists lurking around and scouting shopping malls. Oh the conundrums.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
There's a lot of nutty people out there.unsung said:
Must be nice to have the money for personal bodyguards.Bentleyspop said:
Don't compare a celebrity's legitimate need for protection from them with the average Joe's paranoid need for an AR15 to protect themselves from the boogeyman.Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
That boogeyman is a bad mutha......Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
There's a lot of nutty people out there.unsung said:
Must be nice to have the money for personal bodyguards.Bentleyspop said:
Don't compare a celebrity's legitimate need for protection from them with the average Joe's paranoid need for an AR15 to protect themselves from the boogeyman.Post edited by Stickman12 on0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
They have no more right to their self defense than what I do. I can't afford a bodyguard, and I'll also determine my own self defense needs thanksverymuch.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
There's a lot of nutty people out there.unsung said:
Must be nice to have the money for personal bodyguards.Bentleyspop said:
Don't compare a celebrity's legitimate need for protection from them with the average Joe's paranoid need for an AR15 to protect themselves from the boogeyman.0 -
Their threat is more significant and realistic than your's.unsung said:
They have no more right to their self defense than what I do. I can't afford a bodyguard, and I'll also determine my own self defense needs thanksverymuch.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
There's a lot of nutty people out there.unsung said:
Must be nice to have the money for personal bodyguards.Bentleyspop said:
Don't compare a celebrity's legitimate need for protection from them with the average Joe's paranoid need for an AR15 to protect themselves from the boogeyman.
C'mon man.
* And hey... I forgot about the impending alien invasion (not the one Trump blathers on about... but the one from infinity and beyond). Guy should be allowed to own some land mines for this... no? I should be able to determine my own self defence yah?
Goofy."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487That doesn't make it more important.
Go ahead, I can't tell you what to do or own if you are causing no harm to others.
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I heard Bloomberg spends over 2 million a year on ex-Mossad bodyguards for him and his clan. What is a man who only makes a quarter mill a year to do Bloomy? lmaounsung said:
They have no more right to their self defense than what I do. I can't afford a bodyguard, and I'll also determine my own self defense needs thanksverymuch.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
There's a lot of nutty people out there.unsung said:
Must be nice to have the money for personal bodyguards.Bentleyspop said:
Don't compare a celebrity's legitimate need for protection from them with the average Joe's paranoid need for an AR15 to protect themselves from the boogeyman.
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There's a lot of laws that make certain things illegal that create potential harm of others. Are you against those laws?unsung said:That doesn't make it more important.
Go ahead, I can't tell you what to do or own if you are causing no harm to others.0 -
Bullshit, there are plenty of situations that an "average joe" may find themselves in that put them in just as or more significant or realistic threat as "celebrities". Otherwise, restraining orders would not exist. You said it yourself, there are nuts out there that come up with all kinds of reasons to harm others; divorces, child custody battles, money, drugs do not always bring out the best in people.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Their threat is more significant and realistic than your's.unsung said:
They have no more right to their self defense than what I do. I can't afford a bodyguard, and I'll also determine my own self defense needs thanksverymuch.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
There's a lot of nutty people out there.unsung said:
Must be nice to have the money for personal bodyguards.Bentleyspop said:
Don't compare a celebrity's legitimate need for protection from them with the average Joe's paranoid need for an AR15 to protect themselves from the boogeyman.
C'mon man.
* And hey... I forgot about the impending alien invasion (not the one Trump blathers on about... but the one from infinity and beyond). Guy should be allowed to own some land mines for this... no? I should be able to determine my own self defence yah?
Goofy.
"alien invasion"... Seriously?Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
those in the public eye are more susceptible to violence from those they don't know.PJPOWER said:
Bullshit, there are plenty of situations that an "average joe" may find themselves in that put them in just as or more significant or realistic threat as "celebrities". Otherwise, restraining orders would not exist. You said it yourself, there are nuts out there that come up with all kinds of reasons to harm others; divorces, child custody battles, money, drugs do not always bring out the best in people.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Their threat is more significant and realistic than your's.unsung said:
They have no more right to their self defense than what I do. I can't afford a bodyguard, and I'll also determine my own self defense needs thanksverymuch.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
There's a lot of nutty people out there.unsung said:
Must be nice to have the money for personal bodyguards.Bentleyspop said:
Don't compare a celebrity's legitimate need for protection from them with the average Joe's paranoid need for an AR15 to protect themselves from the boogeyman.
C'mon man.
* And hey... I forgot about the impending alien invasion (not the one Trump blathers on about... but the one from infinity and beyond). Guy should be allowed to own some land mines for this... no? I should be able to determine my own self defence yah?
Goofy.
"alien invasion"... Seriously?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
This is what I was intending to say.HughFreakingDillon said:
those in the public eye are more susceptible to violence from those they don't know.PJPOWER said:
Bullshit, there are plenty of situations that an "average joe" may find themselves in that put them in just as or more significant or realistic threat as "celebrities". Otherwise, restraining orders would not exist. You said it yourself, there are nuts out there that come up with all kinds of reasons to harm others; divorces, child custody battles, money, drugs do not always bring out the best in people.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Their threat is more significant and realistic than your's.unsung said:
They have no more right to their self defense than what I do. I can't afford a bodyguard, and I'll also determine my own self defense needs thanksverymuch.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
There's a lot of nutty people out there.unsung said:
Must be nice to have the money for personal bodyguards.Bentleyspop said:
Don't compare a celebrity's legitimate need for protection from them with the average Joe's paranoid need for an AR15 to protect themselves from the boogeyman.
C'mon man.
* And hey... I forgot about the impending alien invasion (not the one Trump blathers on about... but the one from infinity and beyond). Guy should be allowed to own some land mines for this... no? I should be able to determine my own self defence yah?
Goofy.
"alien invasion"... Seriously?"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
So are the elderly, the disabled, the poor...it's all relative. Does that mean a celebrity has more of a right to life than someone else? That's what this conversation is dwindling down to...HughFreakingDillon said:
those in the public eye are more susceptible to violence from those they don't know.PJPOWER said:
Bullshit, there are plenty of situations that an "average joe" may find themselves in that put them in just as or more significant or realistic threat as "celebrities". Otherwise, restraining orders would not exist. You said it yourself, there are nuts out there that come up with all kinds of reasons to harm others; divorces, child custody battles, money, drugs do not always bring out the best in people.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Their threat is more significant and realistic than your's.unsung said:
They have no more right to their self defense than what I do. I can't afford a bodyguard, and I'll also determine my own self defense needs thanksverymuch.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
There's a lot of nutty people out there.unsung said:
Must be nice to have the money for personal bodyguards.Bentleyspop said:
Don't compare a celebrity's legitimate need for protection from them with the average Joe's paranoid need for an AR15 to protect themselves from the boogeyman.
C'mon man.
* And hey... I forgot about the impending alien invasion (not the one Trump blathers on about... but the one from infinity and beyond). Guy should be allowed to own some land mines for this... no? I should be able to determine my own self defence yah?
Goofy.
"alien invasion"... Seriously?Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
I can't give a specific answer to such a general question. But I'm also guessing that's the intent.Go Beavers said:
There's a lot of laws that make certain things illegal that create potential harm of others. Are you against those laws?unsung said:That doesn't make it more important.
Go ahead, I can't tell you what to do or own if you are causing no harm to others.0
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