America's Gun Violence

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,246
    Not shown as disproven during that Dallas cop shootings either. Didn't open carry create even more chaos and fear? Same could be said at many political gatherings. Not to mention when armed men were carrying military grade weapons while stalking innocent Muslims while on their way in and out of their mosque. Open carry creates fear, and it makes it impossible to discern between the good guys and the bad guys during some kind of shooting incident. Plus they leave themselves open to criminals snatching their guns. Plus people have been known to shoot the wrong people in their excitement to shoot a bad guy. There are a lot of good real life arguments against open carry.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited September 2016
    I've never seen an open carry person being shot by someone excited to shoot a bad guy.

    Speaking of myths...


    Military grade weapons? Nope. Not legal for average people.
    Post edited by unsung on
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Political gatherings? Huh?
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,763
    unsung said:

    US FBI statistics disagree with you.

    really? so gun violence in Canada and Australia is higher than in the US?
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I don't care about their laws.

    They have nothing to do with ours. We are a sovereign nation, or I should say supposed to be
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,763
    unsung said:

    I don't care about their laws.

    They have nothing to do with ours. We are a sovereign nation, or I should say supposed to be

    but your responded to my post directly about it working in other countries, saying "the FBI disagrees with me". we are sovereign nations as well. the queen is merely an antiquated figurehead. Much like your president.
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • unsung said:

    I don't care about their laws.

    They have nothing to do with ours. We are a sovereign nation, or I should say supposed to be

    Of course you dont care. It doesn't help your theory.
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Well I'd agree with that under most circumstances, but the office has abused Executive Orders way too often.

    And no, I'm not speaking of only the current occupier.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487

    but your responded to my post directly about it working in other countries, saying "the FBI disagrees with me". we are sovereign nations as well. the queen is merely an antiquated figurehead. Much like your president.
    And I don't tell you how your laws should be.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,763
    unsung said:

    And I don't tell you how your laws should be.
    jesus. here he go again. I care because:

    -I don't only give a shit about humans that occupy the space within my magical border
    -I have family that live in your country.
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Jesus, a no borders argument.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,246
    unsung said:

    Political gatherings? Huh?

    Rallies, protests, conventions... political gatherings.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,246
    unsung said:

    And I don't tell you how your laws should be.
    Oh FFS. So he's not allowed to have an opinion about it?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,763
    unsung said:

    Jesus, a no borders argument.

    who said anything about no borders? I can express an opinion since it could potentially affect me personally. how difficult is that to understand?
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,635

    Nice I'd pay to see you blow yourself up ..
    it took me a while to respond because I had to re-learn how to type, without using fingers.
  • mace1229 said:

    it took me a while to respond because I had to re-learn how to type, without using fingers.
    Lol nice yeah I'm an ass took it to another level , would not want any harm to come your way I'm being sincere...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    PJ_Soul said:

    Rallies, protests, conventions... political gatherings.
    I can't imagine a more appropriate time for it.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,246
    edited September 2016
    unsung said:

    I can't imagine a more appropriate time for it.
    For what? Open carry? Yeah, no better time for open carry, when people are highly emotional, at odds with one another, and in large groups that are hard to monitor and control, and security is already a challenge without a bunch of people walking around with guns, lol. SMH.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,132
    How often are people getting shot at political gatherings?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,246
    dudeman said:

    How often are people getting shot at political gatherings?

    I didn't say anyone was getting shot at political gatherings. I said it was a security problem because people can't tell the good guys from the bad guys IF something happens. I am talking about the risks open carry poses. The risks are real. And the intimidation/fear factor is real whether someone gets shot or not.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Life is full of IFs...how do you ever leave the house?
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,132
    PJ_Soul said:

    I didn't say anyone was getting shot at political gatherings. I said it was a security problem because people can't tell the good guys from the bad guys IF something happens. I am talking about the risks open carry poses. The risks are real. And the intimidation/fear factor is real whether someone gets shot or not.
    I didn't say you did. I was just asking a question.
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  • unsung said:

    Life is full of IFs...how do you ever leave the house?

    I'm always out and vacation but I'll stay away from those open carry states ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487

    I'm always out and vacation but I'll stay away from those open carry states ..

    Well there's 44 of them so you must not go too far.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,849
    unsung said:


    Well there's 44 of them so you must not go too far.
    It's almost as if there isn't a whole wide world out there that isn't all open carry.....
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • jnimhaoileoinjnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    edited September 2016

    It's almost as if there isn't a whole wide world out there that isn't all open carry.....
    :wink:
  • unsung said:


    Well there's 44 of them so you must not go too far.
    I was up in NH this summer no open carry up there nice vacation , did white water rafting WV didn't see any open carry there ...so there's plenty of places I can go without having to worry about John Wayne's of the world plus there are other continents I can travel too !!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    I was up in NH this summer no open carry up there nice vacation , did white water rafting WV didn't see any open carry there ...so there's plenty of places I can go without having to worry about John Wayne's of the world plus there are other continents I can travel too !!
    shaking head still....all you people that are in such a hurry to infringe on the rights of others to own and carry, it's all about you right ?
    what's next on your agenda ? everybody has the right to an opinion but you anti gun folks are quick to use insults along with your arguments,
    why is that ?

    Godfather.

  • shaking head still....all you people that are in such a hurry to infringe on the rights of others to own and carry, it's all about you right ?
    what's next on your agenda ? everybody has the right to an opinion but you anti gun folks are quick to use insults along with your arguments,
    why is that ?

    Godfather.

    What insults? I'll say it to you or anyone else: my right to live is worth more than your right to own and carry a gun. Period.
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487

    I was up in NH this summer no open carry up there nice vacation , did white water rafting WV didn't see any open carry there ...so there's plenty of places I can go without having to worry about John Wayne's of the world plus there are other continents I can travel too !!
    LOL, NH is one of the best states for gun rights. It most certainly is open carry. You just may not have seen anyone.
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