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I listened to No Code last night. For context, here was the equipment:
JR Media ->stream to Yamaha RX-A1030 -> Outlaw Audio 5000 amp -> B&W 683 S2 towers

I played the original No Code CD as a streaming FLAC (my own Cd rip) to my Squeezebox touch DAC, and then through the same route. This allowed me to easily A/B the audio.

There is no material difference between the two. I think there's a little bit of a 'lift' due to the 24 bit compared to 16, but my guess is that this is not the remix version. There is nothing on the website from Acoustic Sounds that says it is a new mix or remaster.

I'm going to listen again tonight and to Yield, but so far there's nothing that wowed me. It definitely wasn't like busting out a 180 gram fresh analog pressing for the first time.

darthvedder said:

mrussel1 said:

darthvedder said:

Wow, this doesn't bode well for the sound of the reissue vinyl.

Thanks for the link. I looked for a similar thread for a few pages but didn't see it.

Why do you say it doesn't bode well? Did you listen already? I plan on doing a comparison tonight on my main system and see if I can hear a difference.

Nah, I didn't want to shell out 25 bucks for bloated digital files that are more compressed than the OG CD versions. Those dynamic range numbers look scary.

My comment on the vinyl comes from their recent history of remastering the audio for all formats, which is a huge assumption on my part. I hope upon hope that the new vinyl sounds great, but I'm not holding my breath.

Agree, these are my thoughts exactly.

mrussel1 said:

Well you're both right. There's nothing special about these 24/192's.

Probably sound amazing to the mp3 generation though!

mrussel1 said:

Well you're both right. There's nothing special about these 24/192's.

Thanks for putting them to the test. It's better to get a first hand account about them than just looking at the numbers.

darthvedder said:

mrussel1 said:

Well you're both right. There's nothing special about these 24/192's.

Thanks for putting them to the test. It's better to get a first hand account about them than just looking at the numbers.

I'm not sure if you guys picked up what I said earlier, but there's nothing in the summary on the web page that said these were part of the remaster. I hope that's the case and the new vinyl will provide a much clearer distinction. We shall soon see.... I'll do the same testing of course, just for my own curiosity.

Tiki said:

I make my own 24/96 FLACs from cassettes and LPs (and real time CD's for that matter) using Sony Sound Forge on a semi decent, semi-older sound card (M-Audio with RCA and Digital inputs and outputs) in my Windows 8.1 PC that's hooked up to my big boy stereo that has an "analog direct " setting for no coloration.
It's not that complicated, like the normal TDK's, don't record 'em too hot..

I don't understand. What's the point of taking a lossy source like a tape and upscaling to 24 bit?

Tiki said:

What's the point of any hi res digital file above a 320kbs mp3?
I've never heard the term "lossy" when talking about analog. Does it apply?

Yeah, I'm not sure that 'lossy' truly applies in the same sense that it does when you take a lossless file and move it to mp3. But that aside, tapes are certainly not as clean of a source as a modern vinyl or a cd. I'm not trying to dog you out for upscaling to 24 bit, I'm more just curious if you think there's a benefit. Certainly 'space' is no longer a concern like it was 10 years ago.

My late 80s Nakamichi (Dolby C with a decent CR02 or Metal tape) in a decent listening room, or nicely cabled directly into digital is pretty clean, bro.

Tiki said:

My HI RES Yield LP just shipped.
No Code Warehouse...(insert problems, my guess)

I just got notice too! Plus I have the third man vault waiting at home that just got delivered... Good day!

mrussel1 said:

darthvedder said:

mrussel1 said:

Well you're both right. There's nothing special about these 24/192's.

Thanks for putting them to the test. It's better to get a first hand account about them than just looking at the numbers.

I'm not sure if you guys picked up what I said earlier, but there's nothing in the summary on the web page that said these were part of the remaster. I hope that's the case and the new vinyl will provide a much clearer distinction. We shall soon see.... I'll do the same testing of course, just for my own curiosity.

That's a good point. The item descriptions for the vinyl in the shop say they were remastered exclusively for vinyl by Bob Ludwig. Which begs the question why would they even put out higher resolution digital files if they weren't going to remaster them (except, it appears, to add compression)? Bizarre.