America's Gun Violence
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Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha...... And a few more. Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha... That made my day.Bentleyspop said:
Of course none of what goes on in Chicago can be blamed in anyway on the inept, incompetent, and historically corrupt police force.muskydan said:
I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.oftenreading said:
Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.muskydan said:DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????
I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...
Just blame the "certain element" for eveything
I am about to spend a bunch of time in your state for the first time in 20 years since I lived in Gunny......I sure hope I run into some cats like you to get my jollies. Hope the fly fishing is what it used to be.0 -
Of course, and I have the rational capacity to accept that departments almost invariably rule minority shootings as justified. Do you have the rational capacity to accept that in many of those cases, the shootings ruled as justified were not justified at all?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Not from where I sit. There have been many of both variety as I have processed them.rgambs said:
Then it's called a justified shooting regardless of circumstances.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Then it's called a profile murder regardless of circumstances?rgambs said:
Unless the someone is of a "certain element"...Degeneratefk said:
So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?muskydan said:
I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.oftenreading said:
Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.muskydan said:DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????
I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...
Have you seen both varieties?
Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
I'm trying to think of one high profile case discusses on this forum where you defended the officer's decision to resort to using his weapon.rgambs said:
Of course, and I have the rational capacity to accept that departments almost invariably rule minority shootings as justified. Do you have the rational capacity to accept that in many of those cases, the shootings ruled as justified were not justified at all?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Not from where I sit. There have been many of both variety as I have processed them.rgambs said:
Then it's called a justified shooting regardless of circumstances.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Then it's called a profile murder regardless of circumstances?rgambs said:
Unless the someone is of a "certain element"...Degeneratefk said:
So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?muskydan said:
I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.oftenreading said:
Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.muskydan said:DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????
I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...
Have you seen both varieties?
Can you point me in that direction?"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Well in this case YES. Accident / negligence , pretty much the same. The Intent wasn't to injure or kill someone in this training exercise. Unfortunately shit happens.... Like Obummer becoming President and The Hildabeast continuing this total pussification of America. Which btw were both brought to you by the city of Shitcago...The tax payers of Chicago apologize for that.Degeneratefk said:
So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?muskydan said:
I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.oftenreading said:
Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.muskydan said:DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????
I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...0 -
Michael Brown is the only one I can recall, but given the controversial nature of the cases we discuss on here, I don't see that as much of an issue.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I'm trying to think of one high profile case discusses on this forum where you defended the officer's decision to resort to using his weapon.rgambs said:
Of course, and I have the rational capacity to accept that departments almost invariably rule minority shootings as justified. Do you have the rational capacity to accept that in many of those cases, the shootings ruled as justified were not justified at all?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Not from where I sit. There have been many of both variety as I have processed them.rgambs said:
Then it's called a justified shooting regardless of circumstances.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Then it's called a profile murder regardless of circumstances?rgambs said:
Unless the someone is of a "certain element"...Degeneratefk said:
So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?muskydan said:
I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.oftenreading said:
Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.muskydan said:DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????
I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...
Have you seen both varieties?
Can you point me in that direction?Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
John Crawford II- wasn't even facing the officers, just talking on his phone...justified of course!Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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Legally, "accident" and "negligence" are quite different. I would think an officer of the law would know that, as well as be a little less cavalier when a citizen volunteering for a training exercise is killed. Shit happened here because a police officer was negligent in the handling and use of his firearm.muskydan said:
Well in this case YES. Accident / negligence , pretty much the same. The Intent wasn't to injure or kill someone in this training exercise. Unfortunately shit happens.... Like Obummer becoming President and The Hildabeast continuing this total pussification of America. Which btw were both brought to you by the city of Shitcago...The tax payers of Chicago apologize for that.Degeneratefk said:
So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?muskydan said:
I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.oftenreading said:
Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.muskydan said:DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????
I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Well I guess we see it differently, no shock there counseloftenreading said:
Legally, "accident" and "negligence" are quite different. I would think an officer of the law would know that, as well as be a little less cavalier when a citizen volunteering for a training exercise is killed. Shit happened here because a police officer was negligent in the handling and use of his firearm.muskydan said:
Well in this case YES. Accident / negligence , pretty much the same. The Intent wasn't to injure or kill someone in this training exercise. Unfortunately shit happens.... Like Obummer becoming President and The Hildabeast continuing this total pussification of America. Which btw were both brought to you by the city of Shitcago...The tax payers of Chicago apologize for that.Degeneratefk said:
So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?muskydan said:
I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.oftenreading said:
Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.muskydan said:DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????
I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...0 -
I'm just saying that it's hard for people such as myself to think of yourself as objective when you continually champion the 'victim'.rgambs said:
Michael Brown is the only one I can recall, but given the controversial nature of the cases we discuss on here, I don't see that as much of an issue.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I'm trying to think of one high profile case discusses on this forum where you defended the officer's decision to resort to using his weapon.rgambs said:
Of course, and I have the rational capacity to accept that departments almost invariably rule minority shootings as justified. Do you have the rational capacity to accept that in many of those cases, the shootings ruled as justified were not justified at all?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Not from where I sit. There have been many of both variety as I have processed them.rgambs said:
Then it's called a justified shooting regardless of circumstances.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Then it's called a profile murder regardless of circumstances?rgambs said:
Unless the someone is of a "certain element"...Degeneratefk said:
So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?muskydan said:
I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.oftenreading said:
Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.muskydan said:DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????
I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...
Have you seen both varieties?
Can you point me in that direction?
I'm not disagreeing there is a problem... I'm just saying that every case we are presented with is not a by product of the problem."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Accident and negligent can't be used together in court.muskydan said:
Well in this case YES. Accident / negligence , pretty much the same. The Intent wasn't to injure or kill someone in this training exercise. Unfortunately shit happens.... Like Obummer becoming President and The Hildabeast continuing this total pussification of America. Which btw were both brought to you by the city of Shitcago...The tax payers of Chicago apologize for that.Degeneratefk said:
So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?muskydan said:
I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.oftenreading said:
Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.muskydan said:DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????
I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...will myself to find a home, a home within myself
we will find a way, we will find our place0 -
So you think a criminal act has taken place here???Degeneratefk said:
Accident and negligent can't be used together in court.muskydan said:
Well in this case YES. Accident / negligence , pretty much the same. The Intent wasn't to injure or kill someone in this training exercise. Unfortunately shit happens.... Like Obummer becoming President and The Hildabeast continuing this total pussification of America. Which btw were both brought to you by the city of Shitcago...The tax payers of Chicago apologize for that.Degeneratefk said:
So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?muskydan said:
I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.oftenreading said:
Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.muskydan said:DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????
I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...0 -
Depends. Negligence can be a crime.muskydan said:
So you think a criminal act has taken place here???Degeneratefk said:
Accident and negligent can't be used together in court.muskydan said:
Well in this case YES. Accident / negligence , pretty much the same. The Intent wasn't to injure or kill someone in this training exercise. Unfortunately shit happens.... Like Obummer becoming President and The Hildabeast continuing this total pussification of America. Which btw were both brought to you by the city of Shitcago...The tax payers of Chicago apologize for that.Degeneratefk said:
So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?muskydan said:
I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.oftenreading said:
Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.muskydan said:DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????
I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...will myself to find a home, a home within myself
we will find a way, we will find our place0 -
You think accident and negligence are the same?muskydan said:
Well I guess we see it differently, no shock there counseloftenreading said:
Legally, "accident" and "negligence" are quite different. I would think an officer of the law would know that, as well as be a little less cavalier when a citizen volunteering for a training exercise is killed. Shit happened here because a police officer was negligent in the handling and use of his firearm.muskydan said:
Well in this case YES. Accident / negligence , pretty much the same. The Intent wasn't to injure or kill someone in this training exercise. Unfortunately shit happens.... Like Obummer becoming President and The Hildabeast continuing this total pussification of America. Which btw were both brought to you by the city of Shitcago...The tax payers of Chicago apologize for that.Degeneratefk said:
So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?muskydan said:
I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.oftenreading said:
Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.muskydan said:DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????
I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...
Ooops. Well, not much point in proceeding with this discussion then.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
I guess not ahe....oftenreading said:
You think accident and negligence are the same?muskydan said:
Well I guess we see it differently, no shock there counseloftenreading said:
Legally, "accident" and "negligence" are quite different. I would think an officer of the law would know that, as well as be a little less cavalier when a citizen volunteering for a training exercise is killed. Shit happened here because a police officer was negligent in the handling and use of his firearm.muskydan said:
Well in this case YES. Accident / negligence , pretty much the same. The Intent wasn't to injure or kill someone in this training exercise. Unfortunately shit happens.... Like Obummer becoming President and The Hildabeast continuing this total pussification of America. Which btw were both brought to you by the city of Shitcago...The tax payers of Chicago apologize for that.Degeneratefk said:
So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?muskydan said:
I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.oftenreading said:
Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.muskydan said:DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????
I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...
Ooops. Well, not much point in proceeding with this discussion then.0 -
A Minneapolis gun buyback program targeting weapons used in street crimes may be shooting blanks, as detractors said a Saturday collection mostly took in antiquated, unused or homemade arms from legal owners and did little to thin the firearm supply actually available to dangerous criminals.
Two Minneapolis locations collected about 150 firearms Saturday, but both exchanges were forced to shut down several hours early when officials ran out of Visa gift cards – $25,000 worth, The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported.
And at least some of that money helped finance the purchase of even more guns.
One anonymous gun owner told WCCO he received $200 in gift cards that he planned to use to buy a new firearm. That man said he didn’t think the program was serving its intended purpose.
“I just don’t feel that a criminal is going to come up to a fire department with a bunch of police around it and turn in a gun,” he said.
Paul Joat, an area gun collector, told The Star Tribune he bought two weapons on the street, ostensibly offering the sellers a better deal than the city could.
“A lot of what I’m seeing is gun nuts turning in their guns for more than they’re worth,” he said.
A commenter on the Minnesota Gun Talk message board noted that “every single person in line was one of us.”
The lure of a Visa gift card worth between $15 and $300 was enough to make some enterprising Minnesotans get creative.
One person constructed a “shotgun” out of a piece of wood, some tape and a pipe. They were given a $100 gift card for the contraption, according to a Facebook post from the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus.
Guns gathered during the Saturday buyback were set to be decommissioned and used in an art piece.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/08/29/minnesota-gun-buyback-program-dud-some-legal-owners-say.html
like I keep saying, taking guns from responsible people is just stupid and so is adding more gun control laws
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Unless your last name is Clinton.Degeneratefk said:
Depends. Negligence can be a crime.muskydan said:
So you think a criminal act has taken place here???Degeneratefk said:
Accident and negligent can't be used together in court.muskydan said:
Well in this case YES. Accident / negligence , pretty much the same. The Intent wasn't to injure or kill someone in this training exercise. Unfortunately shit happens.... Like Obummer becoming President and The Hildabeast continuing this total pussification of America. Which btw were both brought to you by the city of Shitcago...The tax payers of Chicago apologize for that.Degeneratefk said:
So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?muskydan said:
I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.oftenreading said:
Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.muskydan said:DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????
I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...0 -
Teflon hillbilly'sunsung said:
Unless your last name is Clinton.Degeneratefk said:
Depends. Negligence can be a crime.muskydan said:
So you think a criminal act has taken place here???Degeneratefk said:
Accident and negligent can't be used together in court.muskydan said:
Well in this case YES. Accident / negligence , pretty much the same. The Intent wasn't to injure or kill someone in this training exercise. Unfortunately shit happens.... Like Obummer becoming President and The Hildabeast continuing this total pussification of America. Which btw were both brought to you by the city of Shitcago...The tax payers of Chicago apologize for that.Degeneratefk said:
So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?muskydan said:
I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.oftenreading said:
Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.muskydan said:DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????
I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...0 -
was the guy who constructed a gun out of wood and tape 'responsible' too?Godfather. said:A Minneapolis gun buyback program targeting weapons used in street crimes may be shooting blanks, as detractors said a Saturday collection mostly took in antiquated, unused or homemade arms from legal owners and did little to thin the firearm supply actually available to dangerous criminals.
Two Minneapolis locations collected about 150 firearms Saturday, but both exchanges were forced to shut down several hours early when officials ran out of Visa gift cards – $25,000 worth, The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported.
And at least some of that money helped finance the purchase of even more guns.
One anonymous gun owner told WCCO he received $200 in gift cards that he planned to use to buy a new firearm. That man said he didn’t think the program was serving its intended purpose.
“I just don’t feel that a criminal is going to come up to a fire department with a bunch of police around it and turn in a gun,” he said.
Paul Joat, an area gun collector, told The Star Tribune he bought two weapons on the street, ostensibly offering the sellers a better deal than the city could.
“A lot of what I’m seeing is gun nuts turning in their guns for more than they’re worth,” he said.
A commenter on the Minnesota Gun Talk message board noted that “every single person in line was one of us.”
The lure of a Visa gift card worth between $15 and $300 was enough to make some enterprising Minnesotans get creative.
One person constructed a “shotgun” out of a piece of wood, some tape and a pipe. They were given a $100 gift card for the contraption, according to a Facebook post from the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus.
Guns gathered during the Saturday buyback were set to be decommissioned and used in an art piece.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/08/29/minnesota-gun-buyback-program-dud-some-legal-owners-say.html
like I keep saying, taking guns from responsible people is just stupid and so is adding more gun control laws
Godfather.
and just because you and others keep saying people want to take your guns away no one is advocating that. no one is coming into your homes to take them away. just false rhertoric.0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487It's not false at all.0
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How is it not false if it's never been proposed and no one is advocating for such a thing, particularly not those who have any kind of impact on the matter?unsung said:It's not false at all.
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