America's Gun Violence

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Stickman12 said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    http://www.theindychannel.com/news/national/shooting-inside-michigan-courthouse-report-says

    another day in murikkka

    I bet this means all inmates will be handcuffed behind the back from here on out.
    I figured that was standard operating procedure.
    how did he get loose then? I know nothing about standard operating procedure. I would imagine it depends on the criminal/crimes committed.
    I don't know the facts of this case but I worked in a prison years ago and there are inmates that can slip cuffs off no matter how tight you put them on.
    Maybe Austin Powers was on to something...
    http://youtu.be/ZXRfnIfFYFI
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,123
    Stickman12 said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    http://www.theindychannel.com/news/national/shooting-inside-michigan-courthouse-report-says

    another day in murikkka

    I bet this means all inmates will be handcuffed behind the back from here on out.
    I figured that was standard operating procedure.
    how did he get loose then? I know nothing about standard operating procedure. I would imagine it depends on the criminal/crimes committed.
    I don't know the facts of this case but I worked in a prison years ago and there are inmates that can slip cuffs off no matter how tight you put them on.
    Damn I never knew that; having known that what did you guys do to prevent that from happening?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    mcgruff10 said:

    Stickman12 said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    http://www.theindychannel.com/news/national/shooting-inside-michigan-courthouse-report-says

    another day in murikkka

    I bet this means all inmates will be handcuffed behind the back from here on out.
    I figured that was standard operating procedure.
    how did he get loose then? I know nothing about standard operating procedure. I would imagine it depends on the criminal/crimes committed.
    I don't know the facts of this case but I worked in a prison years ago and there are inmates that can slip cuffs off no matter how tight you put them on.
    Damn I never knew that; having known that what did you guys do to prevent that from happening?
    Same here...and also did it apply in this incident?
  • Stickman12
    Stickman12 Posts: 504
    mcgruff10 said:

    Stickman12 said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Gern Blansten said:

    http://www.theindychannel.com/news/national/shooting-inside-michigan-courthouse-report-says

    another day in murikkka

    I bet this means all inmates will be handcuffed behind the back from here on out.
    I figured that was standard operating procedure.
    how did he get loose then? I know nothing about standard operating procedure. I would imagine it depends on the criminal/crimes committed.
    I don't know the facts of this case but I worked in a prison years ago and there are inmates that can slip cuffs off no matter how tight you put them on.
    Damn I never knew that; having known that what did you guys do to prevent that from happening?
    They were cuffed behind their back and had a leash attached to the chain links between the cuffs. The leash went under the ankle shackles so that if needed you could yank up in the leash which would pull their legs out from under them. Also when escorting them you would keep one of your hands gripping the cuffs while they were on them. I have even seen a man starve himself so that he could get skinny enough to fit through a cuff port. He did it to go after another inmate. When these guys have nothing but time, they can literally figure out anything
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    2 more cops shot in San diego. One just died, the other is critical. I haven't heard the details of the shooting yet. Very sad.
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Degeneratefk said:

    2 more cops shot in San diego. One just died, the other is critical. I haven't heard the details of the shooting yet. Very sad.

    And some people wonder why the police have their guard up during traffic stops.

    Very sad indeed, DF.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,450
    edited August 2016
    19 people shot in Chicago with 9 dead on monday.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/08/10/nine-people-fatally-shot-in-chicago-marking-citys-deadliest-day-in-more-than-a-decade-10-more-wounded/?tid=sm_fb

    I'd wager those guns crossed a border from a neighboring state with very lax laws on sales or resales.

    then theres this. Gross negligence described as an "accident and unimaginable" Turn in your badge Chief. You are clearly in a position above your intelligence and crtical thinking skills.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/08/10/woman-fatally-shot-in-accident-during-fla-citizen-police-academy-lethal-force-simulation/?tid=sm_fb

    edited for spelling and accuracy in quoting the chief.
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  • g under p
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    This has to be one of the worse police accidents I've ever heard of.....
    sort of reminds me of what happened to the actor Brandon Lee (Bruce Lee's son).

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/08/10/woman-fatally-shot-in-accident-during-fla-citizen-police-academy-lethal-force-simulation/

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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,450
    g under p said:

    This has to be one of the worse police accidents I've ever heard of.....
    sort of reminds me of what happened to the actor Brandon Lee (Bruce Lee's son).

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/08/10/woman-fatally-shot-in-accident-during-fla-citizen-police-academy-lethal-force-simulation/

    Peace

    This was no accident. At a minimum it was gross negligence.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    muskydan said:

    DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????

    Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.
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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    oftenreading said:

    muskydan said:

    DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????

    Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.
    I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.
    I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    muskydan said:

    oftenreading said:

    muskydan said:

    DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????

    Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.
    I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.
    I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...
    That ACCIDENT seems more like NEGLIGENCE to me.

    You want to play with guns? Then play safely.
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    muskydan said:

    oftenreading said:

    muskydan said:

    DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????

    Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.
    I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.
    I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...
    So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?
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    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • HughFreakingDillon
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Degeneratefk said:

    muskydan said:

    oftenreading said:

    muskydan said:

    DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????

    Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.
    I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.
    I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...
    So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?
    Unless the someone is of a "certain element"...
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    rgambs said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    muskydan said:

    oftenreading said:

    muskydan said:

    DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????

    Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.
    I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.
    I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...
    So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?
    Unless the someone is of a "certain element"...
    Then it's called a profile murder regardless of circumstances?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,422
    muskydan said:

    oftenreading said:

    muskydan said:

    DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????

    Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.
    I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.
    I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...
    Of course none of what goes on in Chicago can be blamed in anyway on the inept, incompetent, and historically corrupt police force.

    Just blame the "certain element" for eveything
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    rgambs said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    muskydan said:

    oftenreading said:

    muskydan said:

    DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????

    Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.
    I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.
    I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...
    So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?
    Unless the someone is of a "certain element"...
    Then it's called a profile murder regardless of circumstances?
    Then it's called a justified shooting regardless of circumstances.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    rgambs said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    rgambs said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    muskydan said:

    oftenreading said:

    muskydan said:

    DAMMM GUNS!!! When are they ever going to learn to behave themselves????

    Musky, are you referring to the link posted immediately above your comment? Because I'm hoping that you, as a police officer, would agree that it was gross negligence to not have checked and double checked that there was no live ammunition in the gun before the role play began. How is that even defensible? Mickey is absolutely correct - this in no way can be described as an "accident". It was 100% preventable with basic gun safety practices.
    I was not defending the ACCIDENT that was described above.
    I was referring to the 9 killed in Shitcago on a Monday. I have said this numerous times on here, there is a major behavioral problem with a certain element of our society...well Chicago for sure...
    So when a cop kills someone it's an accident?
    Unless the someone is of a "certain element"...
    Then it's called a profile murder regardless of circumstances?
    Then it's called a justified shooting regardless of circumstances.
    Not from where I sit. There have been many of both variety as I have processed them.

    Have you seen both varieties?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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