America's Gun Violence

mickeyrat · July 2016

in case anyone wondered.....

http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/9b53eab97f/good-guy-with-a-gun-clarification?_cc=__d___&_ccid=_1j5je

PJPOWER · July 2016

mickeyrat said:
in case anyone wondered.....

http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/9b53eab97f/good-guy-with-a-gun-clarification?_cc=__d___&_ccid=_1j5je

Wow, I'm know I'm 1000 times more educated on the subject now.

PP193448 · July 2016

mickeyrat said:
in case anyone wondered.....

http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/9b53eab97f/good-guy-with-a-gun-clarification?_cc=__d___&_ccid=_1j5je

Probably not a good choice to put the picture of 50 cent up as sarcasm, because he was a drug dealer with guns before he became a "good guy", right???

mickeyrat · July 2016

PP193448 said:

mickeyrat said:
in case anyone wondered.....

http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/9b53eab97f/good-guy-with-a-gun-clarification?_cc=__d___&_ccid=_1j5je
Probably not a good choice to put the picture of 50 cent up as sarcasm, because he was a drug dealer with guns before he became a "good guy", right???

no 50 cent is classified as a bad guy with a gun.

read it.

PP193448 · July 2016

mickeyrat said:

PP193448 said:

mickeyrat said:
in case anyone wondered.....

http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/9b53eab97f/good-guy-with-a-gun-clarification?_cc=__d___&_ccid=_1j5je
Probably not a good choice to put the picture of 50 cent up as sarcasm, because he was a drug dealer with guns before he became a "good guy", right???
no 50 cent is classified as a bad guy with a gun.

read it.

Yeah I read it. It's sarcastically saying he's stereotypically considered a bad guy with a gun because of rap, hip, hop, color of his skin, etc. It's just a bad example to put there.

dignin · July 2016

THE HORRIFIC, PREDICTABLE RESULT OF A WIDELY ARMED CITIZENRY

Weapons empower extremes. Allowing members of any fringe of any movement to get their hands on military weapons guarantees that any normal dispute—political or, for that matter, domestic—can quickly lead to a massacre. Our guns have outraced our restrictions, but not our imaginations. Sometime in the not-too-distant past, annihilation replaced street theatre and demonstrations as the central possibility of the enraged American imagination. Guns allow the fringe to occupy the center.

Once again, it needs stating because it can’t be stated too often: despite the desperate efforts of the National Rifle Association to prevent research on gun violence, the research has gone on, and shows conclusively what common sense already suggests. Guns are not merely the instrument; guns are the issue. The more guns there are, the more gun violence happens.

Last night’s tragedy was also the grotesque reductio ad absurdum of the claim that it takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun. There were nothing but good guys and they had nothing but guns, and five died anyway, as helpless as the rest of us.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-horrific-predictable-result-of-a-widely-armed-citizenry?intcid=mod-most-popular

Thirty Bills Unpaid · July 2016

Lol:

https://twitter.com/holdthisbeer/status/725176931981864960

Cliffy6745 · July 2016

PJPOWER said:

Cliffy6745 said:

PJPOWER said:

Cliffy6745 said:

PJPOWER said:

Cliffy6745 said:
Good god, listening to this made me so angry. People are fucking idiots.

http://www.npr.org/2016/06/23/483211713/handguns-in-america-and-the-rise-of-the-concealed-carry-lifestyle

'Merica! Happy 4th, all...
Speaking of "fucking idiots"...
http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/06/27/no-way-26-democrats-who-participated-in-house-sitin-are-gun-owners-n2183741
You are aware that it is possible to own a gun but also want better regulations for buying one, no?
Oh, I agree. I misconstrued your previous statements to mean gun owners are idiots... I realize now that was not what you were saying.
The paranoia gun culture and marketing discussed in that segement is what I was largely referring to
Yeah, I understand what you are saying. From personal experience, my "paranoia" comes from working in Social Work for 12 years. I got to see the best and the worst of society, and trust me, if people knew how many of the "worst" are walking by them every day, they would be a lot more vigilant and aware of their surroundings...especially if you happen to be a woman or elderly. There are so many facets of shitty people out there preying on the weak that it would make your head spin. I try to encourage everyone to take a class that teaches you how to recognize body language, exits, etc. The societal drift (more people) is definitely producing more shit that you have to watch out for. I'm not saying that people should be paranoid and never leave their houses or live in bunkers or anything but definitely aware that there is a growing threat even on your regular trips to get gas. I cringe every time I see people walking around in public staring at their phones. It's not just gun manufacturers pushing for people to carry, but most law enforcement officers will encourage it as well because they also have an awareness that the general public does not have. Many CCW instructors are actually retired law enforcement officers or people that come from public service backgrounds...trust me, there is a reason why.

Doesn't sound like this law enforcement guy is a huge fan of the Texas gun laws

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/11/485559307/listen-on-guns-dallas-police-chief-tells-legislators-do-your-job

Gern Blansten · July 2016

Cliffy6745 said:

PJPOWER said:

Cliffy6745 said:

PJPOWER said:

Cliffy6745 said:

PJPOWER said:

Cliffy6745 said:
Good god, listening to this made me so angry. People are fucking idiots.

http://www.npr.org/2016/06/23/483211713/handguns-in-america-and-the-rise-of-the-concealed-carry-lifestyle

'Merica! Happy 4th, all...
Speaking of "fucking idiots"...
http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/06/27/no-way-26-democrats-who-participated-in-house-sitin-are-gun-owners-n2183741
You are aware that it is possible to own a gun but also want better regulations for buying one, no?
Oh, I agree. I misconstrued your previous statements to mean gun owners are idiots... I realize now that was not what you were saying.
The paranoia gun culture and marketing discussed in that segement is what I was largely referring to
Yeah, I understand what you are saying. From personal experience, my "paranoia" comes from working in Social Work for 12 years. I got to see the best and the worst of society, and trust me, if people knew how many of the "worst" are walking by them every day, they would be a lot more vigilant and aware of their surroundings...especially if you happen to be a woman or elderly. There are so many facets of shitty people out there preying on the weak that it would make your head spin. I try to encourage everyone to take a class that teaches you how to recognize body language, exits, etc. The societal drift (more people) is definitely producing more shit that you have to watch out for. I'm not saying that people should be paranoid and never leave their houses or live in bunkers or anything but definitely aware that there is a growing threat even on your regular trips to get gas. I cringe every time I see people walking around in public staring at their phones. It's not just gun manufacturers pushing for people to carry, but most law enforcement officers will encourage it as well because they also have an awareness that the general public does not have. Many CCW instructors are actually retired law enforcement officers or people that come from public service backgrounds...trust me, there is a reason why.
Doesn't sound like this law enforcement guy is a huge fan of the Texas gun laws

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/11/485559307/listen-on-guns-dallas-police-chief-tells-legislators-do-your-job

Nope....I listened to him speak

This is the kind of incident that makes people realize that things are fucked up. The cops can't tell who the "good guys with a gun" are. The bad guys can blend in way too easily with the good guys with open carry laws.

I can't believe we are this stupid.

PJPOWER · July 2016

Gern Blansten said:

Cliffy6745 said:

PJPOWER said:

Cliffy6745 said:

PJPOWER said:

Cliffy6745 said:

PJPOWER said:

Cliffy6745 said:
Good god, listening to this made me so angry. People are fucking idiots.

http://www.npr.org/2016/06/23/483211713/handguns-in-america-and-the-rise-of-the-concealed-carry-lifestyle

'Merica! Happy 4th, all...
Speaking of "fucking idiots"...
http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/06/27/no-way-26-democrats-who-participated-in-house-sitin-are-gun-owners-n2183741
You are aware that it is possible to own a gun but also want better regulations for buying one, no?
Oh, I agree. I misconstrued your previous statements to mean gun owners are idiots... I realize now that was not what you were saying.
The paranoia gun culture and marketing discussed in that segement is what I was largely referring to
Yeah, I understand what you are saying. From personal experience, my "paranoia" comes from working in Social Work for 12 years. I got to see the best and the worst of society, and trust me, if people knew how many of the "worst" are walking by them every day, they would be a lot more vigilant and aware of their surroundings...especially if you happen to be a woman or elderly. There are so many facets of shitty people out there preying on the weak that it would make your head spin. I try to encourage everyone to take a class that teaches you how to recognize body language, exits, etc. The societal drift (more people) is definitely producing more shit that you have to watch out for. I'm not saying that people should be paranoid and never leave their houses or live in bunkers or anything but definitely aware that there is a growing threat even on your regular trips to get gas. I cringe every time I see people walking around in public staring at their phones. It's not just gun manufacturers pushing for people to carry, but most law enforcement officers will encourage it as well because they also have an awareness that the general public does not have. Many CCW instructors are actually retired law enforcement officers or people that come from public service backgrounds...trust me, there is a reason why.
Doesn't sound like this law enforcement guy is a huge fan of the Texas gun laws

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/11/485559307/listen-on-guns-dallas-police-chief-tells-legislators-do-your-job
Nope....I listened to him speak

This is the kind of incident that makes people realize that things are fucked up. The cops can't tell who the "good guys with a gun" are. The bad guys can blend in way too easily with the good guys with open carry laws.

I can't believe we are this stupid.

They say that, but in reality, it just helps them realize who the eccentric individuals are in the community as well. It becomes part of their "Profile". On the other side, it protects me if I'm going to the practice range and some crazy person with an agenda sees me carrying my rifle to the pickup and tries to make a big deal out of it.
I have trouble with these people too though, open carry a gun to a mass protest and expect the odds of yourself getting arrested or shot to increase. This is where I would suggest CCW or self defense classes as well. You learn to avoid escalating dangerous situations with unreasonable people in tense situations.

rssesq · July 2016

as the gun laws get tighter in nyc, has anyone noticed the HUGE rise in random face slashing and razor blade attacks? even the crazies appreciate knowing their victims are without arms.
#berniegoetz

Gern Blansten · July 2016

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/national/shooting-inside-michigan-courthouse-report-says

another day in murikkka

Gern Blansten · July 2016

rssesq said:
as the gun laws get tighter in nyc, has anyone noticed the HUGE rise in random face slashing and razor blade attacks? even the crazies appreciate knowing their victims are without arms.
#berniegoetz

source?

HughFreakingDillon · July 2016

Gern Blansten said:
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/national/shooting-inside-michigan-courthouse-report-says

another day in murikkka

I bet this means all inmates will be handcuffed behind the back from here on out.

Cliffy6745 · July 2016

rssesq said:
as the gun laws get tighter in nyc, has anyone noticed the HUGE rise in random face slashing and razor blade attacks? even the crazies appreciate knowing their victims are without arms.
#berniegoetz

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenpeng_Village_Primary_School_stabbing

even flow - question mark · July 2016

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/12/leytonstone-tube-attack-victim-lyle-zimmerman-jo-cox

mcgruff10 · July 2016

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/national/shooting-inside-michigan-courthouse-report-says

another day in murikkka
I bet this means all inmates will be handcuffed behind the back from here on out.

I figured that was standard operating procedure.

JWPearl · July 2016

As did I..and to remain silent and the rest of it.

HughFreakingDillon · July 2016

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/national/shooting-inside-michigan-courthouse-report-says

another day in murikkka
I bet this means all inmates will be handcuffed behind the back from here on out.
I figured that was standard operating procedure.

how did he get loose then? I know nothing about standard operating procedure. I would imagine it depends on the criminal/crimes committed.

Stickman12 · July 2016

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/national/shooting-inside-michigan-courthouse-report-says

another day in murikkka
I bet this means all inmates will be handcuffed behind the back from here on out.
I figured that was standard operating procedure.
how did he get loose then? I know nothing about standard operating procedure. I would imagine it depends on the criminal/crimes committed.

I don't know the facts of this case but I worked in a prison years ago and there are inmates that can slip cuffs off no matter how tight you put them on.

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