America's Gun Violence

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

So obviously I want ar 15 s and ak 47 s to stay. To my gun control friends, what laws need to be put in place in order for me to keep them?
Registration?
Training?
Multiple back ground checks?

To be fair, existing guns should be grandfathered. A buy back program would be helpful.

I would think, off the top of my head, the gun needs to be registered though. If people check out then everything is fine. License for ammunition.

If people with registered guns such as yours step out of bounds, then the weapons should be seized.

This would be part of meaningful legislation. There's no immediate solution, but in 20 years... your country wouldn't be missing 20 years of assault rifles introduced into society from the Big 5 Sporting Good sales.

Sounds great just make it national so that ALL the states agree and you can take your weapons with you if you move.

Make that happen and I'm all for it.

Annual or bi-annual training required. Proficiency testinng as well. Licensing and rregistrattion of all weapons. Reporting of all sales, including peer to peer. Liability insurance required. The parents or guardians who store where kids have access and someone dies, you lose your freedom. No questions asked.

I want the people willing to sell off the books without a care as to who is buying beyond if they have the cash, to be held accountable for those actions. Unless or until you can show another viable way to accomplish this single thing then , I dont know that any reduction in the violence will be possible.

Would be a good start if a lot of the emotion on both sides can be tempered to allow for real common sense , universally beneficial ideas to take root. All while the preservation of the second is maintained as it was intended when written.

NRA MUST follow the wishes of its paid members. Then ones they purport to represent. It seems to me that isnt the case anymore.

I like it all except the annual or biannual training. with the amount of people owning firearms I think this would be an impossible task. But I do like the idea of an initial firearms test of some sort. Kind of like a hunter education course with a live firearms test and then a written test.

In Canada, you must pass a firearms course and hold a license before you can buy a gun.

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

So obviously I want ar 15 s and ak 47 s to stay. To my gun control friends, what laws need to be put in place in order for me to keep them?
Registration?
Training?
Multiple back ground checks?

To be fair, existing guns should be grandfathered. A buy back program would be helpful.

I would think, off the top of my head, the gun needs to be registered though. If people check out then everything is fine. License for ammunition.

If people with registered guns such as yours step out of bounds, then the weapons should be seized.

This would be part of meaningful legislation. There's no immediate solution, but in 20 years... your country wouldn't be missing 20 years of assault rifles introduced into society from the Big 5 Sporting Good sales.

Sounds great just make it national so that ALL the states agree and you can take your weapons with you if you move.

Make that happen and I'm all for it.

Annual or bi-annual training required. Proficiency testinng as well. Licensing and rregistrattion of all weapons. Reporting of all sales, including peer to peer. Liability insurance required. The parents or guardians who store where kids have access and someone dies, you lose your freedom. No questions asked.

I want the people willing to sell off the books without a care as to who is buying beyond if they have the cash, to be held accountable for those actions. Unless or until you can show another viable way to accomplish this single thing then , I dont know that any reduction in the violence will be possible.

Would be a good start if a lot of the emotion on both sides can be tempered to allow for real common sense , universally beneficial ideas to take root. All while the preservation of the second is maintained as it was intended when written.

NRA MUST follow the wishes of its paid members. Then ones they purport to represent. It seems to me that isnt the case anymore.

I like it all except the annual or biannual training. with the amount of people owning firearms I think this would be an impossible task. But I do like the idea of an initial firearms test of some sort. Kind of like a hunter education course with a live firearms test and then a written test.

In Canada, you must pass a firearms course and hold a license before you can buy a gun.

There's nothing wrong with that. The fact that you want multiple training classes later on is interesting considering cops , well most, don't bother training anymore once they're on the force...

I never said I wanted that. I don't.

PJPOWER said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Hahahaha

The old 'fairy dust' defence.

Okay. You win. Assault rifles aren't a problem. The guy could easily have had a slingshot or box of rubber bands- same result.

What, you don't have fairy dust? It is the only argument anti-gun dipshits have for keeping them out of the hands of these muslim extremists. Do you have some fairy dust to make them disappear?

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJPOWER said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Hahahaha

The old 'fairy dust' defence.

Okay. You win. Assault rifles aren't a problem. The guy could easily have had a slingshot or box of rubber bands- same result.

What, you don't have fairy dust? It is the only argument anti-gun dipshits have for keeping them out of the hands of these muslim extremists. Do you have some fairy dust to make them disappear?

No I don't.

But after the pro gun dip shits have successfully maintained the status quo for the past two decades and allowed such weaponry to be accessed by Muslim idiots... you are correct... we need some Gawddamn fairy dust.

We're more likely to get that than common sense.

tempo_n_groove said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

So obviously I want ar 15 s and ak 47 s to stay. To my gun control friends, what laws need to be put in place in order for me to keep them?
Registration?
Training?
Multiple back ground checks?

To be fair, existing guns should be grandfathered. A buy back program would be helpful.

I would think, off the top of my head, the gun needs to be registered though. If people check out then everything is fine. License for ammunition.

If people with registered guns such as yours step out of bounds, then the weapons should be seized.

This would be part of meaningful legislation. There's no immediate solution, but in 20 years... your country wouldn't be missing 20 years of assault rifles introduced into society from the Big 5 Sporting Good sales.

Sounds great just make it national so that ALL the states agree and you can take your weapons with you if you move.

Make that happen and I'm all for it.

Annual or bi-annual training required. Proficiency testinng as well. Licensing and rregistrattion of all weapons. Reporting of all sales, including peer to peer. Liability insurance required. The parents or guardians who store where kids have access and someone dies, you lose your freedom. No questions asked.

I want the people willing to sell off the books without a care as to who is buying beyond if they have the cash, to be held accountable for those actions. Unless or until you can show another viable way to accomplish this single thing then , I dont know that any reduction in the violence will be possible.

Would be a good start if a lot of the emotion on both sides can be tempered to allow for real common sense , universally beneficial ideas to take root. All while the preservation of the second is maintained as it was intended when written.

NRA MUST follow the wishes of its paid members. Then ones they purport to represent. It seems to me that isnt the case anymore.

I like it all except the annual or biannual training. with the amount of people owning firearms I think this would be an impossible task. But I do like the idea of an initial firearms test of some sort. Kind of like a hunter education course with a live firearms test and then a written test.

In Canada, you must pass a firearms course and hold a license before you can buy a gun.

There's nothing wrong with that. The fact that you want multiple training classes later on is interesting considering cops , well most, don't bother training anymore once they're on the force...

joseph33 said:

Does anyone even remember the whole meaning behind why we have them to begin with? It was intended so that the common man would have the means to rebel against a tyrannical government should one pop up again. Its a democracy For the people,By the people. Somewhere in our history that got lost. Is it easy to accuire a firearm,yes. Should it be,absolutely not. They should be in the hands of healthy minded individuals who are trained and educated. There never will be the end of this debate where we all see eye to eye on the subject. It will go on and on.

rgambs said:

He shot 130 people out of 300 that were in the club.

Pull your heads out of your asses and give up your pathetic defenses of assault rifles. They were weak and filled with holes before, and when you try to trot out that bullshit in the future folks like 30bills and myself are going to be brutally honest, not that it will matter to the gun masturbators.