Good Bernie Sanders interview TYT

polaris_x said:

a great example of how corporate media works is global warming ... there is a reason why americans are the least informed about global warming ...

what is strange is that someone who believes media outlets are all about dollars can't understand the notion that corporate interests would look to derail a presidential candidate that may affect their profits ... that's as basic an economic principle as it gets ...

polaris_x said:

mrussel1 said:

polaris_x said:

a great example of how corporate media works is global warming ... there is a reason why americans are the least informed about global warming ...

what is strange is that someone who believes media outlets are all about dollars can't understand the notion that corporate interests would look to derail a presidential candidate that may affect their profits ... that's as basic an economic principle as it gets ...

I believe Fox drives an agenda from its Roger Ailes's perch, but are you telling me that Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews and others on MSNBC or even CNN are having their show's agenda's written by someone in the executive wing who is trying to tamp down global warming discussion? I'm not buying that. The reason something like global warming has so many non-believers is that the right has been effective in creating hostility to traditional news sources and subsequently creates its own narrative. And then CNN and others are so sensitive to the screams of 'BIAS' that they feel obligated to point out the counter arguments, no matter how misinformed. And why are they sensitive? Because it costs them eyeballs and advertising dollars. I don't believe it's nearly as nefarious as others may think. I

so ... only Fox has a corporate agenda ... none of the other networks works on the same principles!? ... and that you think the other networks concerns on "bias" is more of a driver than parent corporate interests!? ...

like 90% of the US media is owned by like 6 corporations ...

the list of topics that most americans are ill-informed on vs. the rest of the world is significant ... you think that is just chance? ...

brianlux said:

How many Americans even watch the news or keep up on current events besides the 15 to 30 second sound bite that passes as "news"? I doubt this is universal. My European friends seem to think their countries are better informed. The British BBC and Guardian, for example, seem to me to provide more comprehensive, in depth and well rounded information. But we don't encourage people to be well informed. We provide "news" that is basically entertainment. Our schools generally do a poor job of teaching critical and skeptical thinking. How many high school students are encouraged to dig deep than CNN or MSNBC? It's more about training worker bees and we don't need or want our worker bees to be too concerned about what's going on, right? The media sources that tend to dig deeper are generally not even known about by the average American because of that very lack of sound education. So you get these little sound bites that paint a picture of what Bernie Sanders is about and before you know it, he's being labeled things he is not (socialist as opposed to democratic socialist, etc.).

polaris_x said:

mrussel1 said:

polaris_x said:

mrussel1 said:

polaris_x said:

a great example of how corporate media works is global warming ... there is a reason why americans are the least informed about global warming ...

what is strange is that someone who believes media outlets are all about dollars can't understand the notion that corporate interests would look to derail a presidential candidate that may affect their profits ... that's as basic an economic principle as it gets ...

I believe Fox drives an agenda from its Roger Ailes's perch, but are you telling me that Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews and others on MSNBC or even CNN are having their show's agenda's written by someone in the executive wing who is trying to tamp down global warming discussion? I'm not buying that. The reason something like global warming has so many non-believers is that the right has been effective in creating hostility to traditional news sources and subsequently creates its own narrative. And then CNN and others are so sensitive to the screams of 'BIAS' that they feel obligated to point out the counter arguments, no matter how misinformed. And why are they sensitive? Because it costs them eyeballs and advertising dollars. I don't believe it's nearly as nefarious as others may think. I

so ... only Fox has a corporate agenda ... none of the other networks works on the same principles!? ... and that you think the other networks concerns on "bias" is more of a driver than parent corporate interests!? ...

like 90% of the US media is owned by like 6 corporations ...

the list of topics that most americans are ill-informed on vs. the rest of the world is significant ... you think that is just chance? ...

Being ill informed is a function of our laziness and celebrity culture rather than lack of information being available. The fact that 90% of the media is owned by 6 companies (taking your word for it) creates a situation where rationally, the companies would seek to maximize its viewership, not make the content homogeneous. In fact, it's the opposite today. You get to choose the news source that appeals to your bias. Hate Obama? Well I've got Breitbart, Drudge Report and Red State.com ready for you. Hate the GOP? Well then click on over to HuffPo (#4 btw in hits), Daily Kos, Slate, Salon, Rolling Stone, any number of publications will preach to your choir.

Our parents got their news from 60 minutes, Walter Cronkite, Peter Jennings and truly center sources. It was ABC, NBC and CBS. That's it. Plus your daily newspapers. It's not that way today. And I would argue that has created this ignorance factor, rather than homogeneous news.

it's a bit of a chicken and the egg argument ... although I definitely agree with the laziness of the general public ... there is still manipulation going on ... ever read "trust us, we're experts" ...

corporations have a long history of trying to control messaging ... how that doesn't translate to media outlets to maintain profitability across all sectors to you escapes me ...

callen said:

polaris_x said:

a great example of how corporate media works is global warming ... there is a reason why americans are the least informed about global warming ...

what is strange is that someone who believes media outlets are all about dollars can't understand the notion that corporate interests would look to derail a presidential candidate that may affect their profits ... that's as basic an economic principle as it gets ...

Americans aren't the least informed. Many may ignore or dismiss data but it's available and distributed.