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pleathermanpleatherman Posts: 472
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At some point this collection can certainly be traced back to Dave. It's the sort of thing I would sell my firstborn for...
https://collectionzz.com/Cockage/pearl-jam-cassette
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  • cockagecockage Posts: 465
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,078
    Wow that s awesome! Nice find.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • WashedWashed Posts: 736
    Holy smack me in the face and call me impressed!
    this city is so filthy, like my mind in ways
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 96,397
    cockage said:

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    Sweet!
  • wwsuicidewwsuicide Posts: 1,396
    Great stuff indeed!
  • stoppler_pjstoppler_pj Montreal, Quebec, Canada Posts: 191
    Nice.
    You are obviously from the sticks if you call it a hoodie! Us sophisticated city folk call it a bunnyhug!
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,775
    cockage said:

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    Are these yours, Allon?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,775
    mrussel1 said:

    cockage said:

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    Are these yours, Allon?
    Edit* - the tapes, not the titties...
  • FoxyRedLaFoxyRedLa Lauren / MI Posts: 4,810
    :lol: what's PJ stuffins?

    Thanks for sharing!
    Oh please let it rain today.
    Those that can be trusted can change their mind.
  • cockagecockage Posts: 465
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    if im not mistaken, the tape in the bottom left hand corner of this picture is also labeled PJ Stuffins. Based on the track listing for this tape, it would seem as if that tape was used in the final tracking of this release. Contains a bunch of instrumentals but also Chinese and Acoustic #1 which ultimately all came out at the time of the PJ20 release. Thats besides the killer version of Leash and cover of Owner of a Lonely Heart which appear in this tape as well....
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 96,397
    Owner of a Lonely Heart cover? Would LOVE to hear that one.
  • SarahSarah Toronto Posts: 736
    I remember hearing of "Stuffins" and the "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" cover.

    That collection would be absolutely incredible to own, or at least listen to.
    "Somewhere in between / There and here / I got lost / I got scared..."
  • cockagecockage Posts: 465
    always learning something....was searching around online just now and came across a thread started by the same 'pleatherman' who started this one....some PJ fact thread....included in that thread was a picture of a lyric sheet from the museum at PJ20 which contains the lyrics to a song titled "I Wont". After reading those lyrics, i realized they sounded familiar. I went back and checked and sure enough, the tape labeled 3/9/93 contains this song / jam (whatever you want to call it). Its 2:29 in length. Cool stuff.....

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  • CopperTomCopperTom Posts: 3,135
    What did Pusherman become? Nothingman?
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  • cockagecockage Posts: 465
    Pusherman just contains the original version of the song by Curtis Mayfield. Not PJ on the tape. Only thing PJ about that tape is Ed's handwriting.
  • SpokenSpoken Posts: 1,496
    Are these for sale?
  • StoneGardenStoneGarden Posts: 270
    Don't you dare sell them ... keep them for ever! :smiley:
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,530
    Wowee.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    That "I wont" song is some pretty dark stuff.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • FastrichieFastrichie Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 919
    Awesome stuff.
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  • CopperTomCopperTom Posts: 3,135
    Dr. Delight said:

    That "I wont" song is some pretty dark stuff.

    Does a recording of this exist?
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  • FastrichieFastrichie Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 919
    edited March 2016
    I know there is a recording of the stuffins demos. Was told about them back in 2011. I think the recording of owner of a lonely heart is with Dave Krusen on drums. There was an interview with him during the PJ20 stuff where he said he remembered playing the song and it was awesome.
    Post edited by Fastrichie on
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  • pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,182
    They are in the hands of exactly the right guy

    Great work Allon
  • CopperTomCopperTom Posts: 3,135
    pdalowsky said:

    They are in the hands of exactly the right guy

    Great work Allon

    Does that imply they will be shared soon?
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  • FastrichieFastrichie Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 919
    I hope so!
    04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022, St. Paul 8/31/2023, St. Paul 9/2/2023, Seattle 05/30/2024, Missoula 08/22/2024, MSG 09/03/2024, 09/04/2024, Philly 09/07/2024, Fenway 09/15/2024, Fenway 09/17/2024, Hollywood 04/26/2025, Pittsburgh 05/16/2025, Pittsburgh 05/18/2025


  • cockagecockage Posts: 465
    in an effort to try and answer as many questions as possible with one post, here are some brief thoughts / insights to these tapes and their contents:

    - while i consider myself pretty well versed in all thats out there in terms of audio, there is very little on these tapes that i have heard previously. The only thing, outside of a few tracks on the Vitalogy tapes, that ive heard previously is the recording of Out Of My Mind. Its the same version as the single, however, these versions include the small bit of Ed talking after the track saying "I dont know what that was...." that was cut off the single. (Side point - the cassette is labeled as 4/1/94, but the original version of Out Of My Mind was recorded on 4/2/94 and then later played on 4/6/94 and of course in Philly '09 as well, so i assume it was added to the tape later on)... Taken a step further, that means the following....

    - Speed Wash is not from the main set of the New Years 1992 show. While this track doesnt sound like it was taken from the studio, we all know Speed Wash has only been played at this show, meaning that this track is possibly from the soundcheck to that show. Also, the track is only 90 seconds long and starts in the middle of the song, but its amazing (and quality is shloads better than the audio we all have of the one played during the show itself).

    - Smells Like Teen Spirit is recorded in the studio. Its not the full song, but longer than any other version that they've teased over the years. Its coupled with a version of Suggestion (Fugazi) and is about 45-50 seconds in length. Again, one of the best things included on these tapes (and kicks right into a filthy version of Once).

    - Hold On from the Demo '91 tape is an acoustic version and different than the one included in the VS. reissue. Very cool to see it included on their first demo tape. Speaking of which....

    - Demo '91 tape includes the finished versions of Hold On and Angel, but also includes 4x instrumentals. Of those 4x instrumentals, i wouldnt be surprised if you told me that 2x of them (or at least parts) were written by Mad Season or Alice in Chains. Very interesting to hear...

    - certain tracks were labeled with different song titles including Circus (Bugs), Tortured (Angel), Africa / African Groove (Aye Davanita) and Policeman (W.M.A.)

    - my personal favorite tracks from these tapes are the 2x versions of Immortality, which both include alternate lyrics to the final released version as well as the versions played in Boston on 4.10 + 4.11.94. Both versions are studio quality; W.M.A. (from tape labeled Dave Mix - Policeman) includes 6-7 versions of the song different from the final released version. They all include an added verse in the beginning of the song with only drums in the background. Each version included on this tape is roughly 7:30 long....; Dirty Frank - there are a few versions included on these tapes, all of which include slightly different lyrics and are all extended versions (each clocks in around 6:30 long as compared to the released version which is 5:30).

    - Everyone always mentions how Stone was the one driving the band in the early days...Id had always heard that but who knows what that actually means.....However, after listening to these tapes, it became quite evident.....While the music stops in the studio, the first voice you always hear with notes, direction, etc..is Stone. He is very, very vocal on these tapes and really helped me understand all those things ive been hearing for years....

    - the intro that we all associate with the album version of Betterman is included on these tapes as well, but its the intro to Spin the Black Circle. Very cool. Its those small changes that get me out of bed in the morning.

    - As mentioned earlier in this thread, I Won't is included on one of the tapes

    - includes a bunch of versions of Cready Stomp (plus lots of other jams / instrumentals)

    - overall, there are over 150 individual tracks clocking in at over 12 hours of playback.

    - Yes, this is the greatest thing i have ever come across in regard to PJ audio. There is nothing, in my humble opinion, in the same stratosphere as these tapes that ive heard. Im sure more is out there, but i havent been lucky enough to come across any of it....If anyone has anything like this (or anything of note), send me a message and lets talk....

    I know this is a long post, but lots of goodness is contained within. There are a few more things to note (Angel tape / lyrics / versions, Stuffins 1 and 2, etc...but ill get to those soon)....

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,775
    ^ It's like Allon found the Dead Sea Scrolls...
  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,118
    pdalowsky said:

    They are in the hands of exactly the right guy

    Great work Allon

    Allon is all things awesome
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  • jjflashjjflash Posts: 5,019
    cockage said:

    in an effort to try and answer as many questions as possible with one post, here are some brief thoughts / insights to these tapes and their contents:

    I know this is a long post, but lots of goodness is contained within. There are a few more things to note (Angel tape / lyrics / versions, Stuffins 1 and 2, etc...but ill get to those soon)....

    Kadang! Excellent info Allon, thanks for sharing :sunglasses:
  • FastrichieFastrichie Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 919
    Thank you for the info! These sound incredible. What is on the tape that says Vitalogy/ Zep? I see the track listing but was just wondering how the "Zep" part fits in!

    Thanks again,
    Rich
    04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022, St. Paul 8/31/2023, St. Paul 9/2/2023, Seattle 05/30/2024, Missoula 08/22/2024, MSG 09/03/2024, 09/04/2024, Philly 09/07/2024, Fenway 09/15/2024, Fenway 09/17/2024, Hollywood 04/26/2025, Pittsburgh 05/16/2025, Pittsburgh 05/18/2025


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