THE WALKING DEAD...and all things zombie

I thought it was a great episode. Was totally shocked at the arrow through the head. And I was yelling at Abraham and Eugene - I thought Eugene was going to get bit - instead he later became the biter . I also yelled at Denise to not go into that room at the Apothecary so was relieved when she survived that. Note to self: Don't take the tracks.

unless he is part of negan's camp and was one of the guys that got locked in that room two episodes ago when carol/maggie set it ablaze? and he somehow got out? maybe i just missed something?

That episode was kinda all over the place. Carol's reasoning for leaving doesn't make much sense. Because she doesn't want to kill again?? She's much more likely to have to kill again being out there on her own instead of inside the walls of Alexandria. And her sudden change to not want to kill came completely out of nowhere.

Indifference71 said:

That episode was kinda all over the place. Carol's reasoning for leaving doesn't make much sense. Because she doesn't want to kill again?? She's much more likely to have to kill again being out there on her own instead of inside the walls of Alexandria. And her sudden change to not want to kill came completely out of nowhere.

Yeah, I was a little confused too. I think out on your own, all you'll be killing is zombies. Mostly at least. I think after Rick and gang's raid where they slaughtered everyone pushed her over the top. Then her and Maggie burning people alive because of it....just too much. But yeah, you might not want to kill anymore, but being out there on your own, you might as well just put a gun to your head.

Indifference71 said:

That episode was kinda all over the place. Carol's reasoning for leaving doesn't make much sense. Because she doesn't want to kill again?? She's much more likely to have to kill again being out there on her own instead of inside the walls of Alexandria. And her sudden change to not want to kill came completely out of nowhere.

I wouldn't say that her sudden change to not want to kill was from nowhere...it seemed that they were building up slowly to her remorse. I happened to catch the end of last week's before last night's started, and it showed her face right after Rick killed the guy who said he was Negan, knowing very well he wasn't Negan. She looked a little suprised and taken aback by his unnecessary violence (even though she literally just took out a group on the kill floor). I think there is some inconsistency in the writing, but they must have a plan in mind for her character taking off on her own again. I would think they wouldn't have her come back and save the day again like with Terminus--too predictable.

eeriepadave said:

speaking of Negan, i know there is suppose to be one dude, but why were the people in his group saying everyone is Negan?

I asked My buddy who reads the comics and he told me they all do that as a pact, so no one attacking will ever know who negan is.

Indifference71 said:

That episode was kinda all over the place. Carol's reasoning for leaving doesn't make much sense. Because she doesn't want to kill again?? She's much more likely to have to kill again being out there on her own instead of inside the walls of Alexandria. And her sudden change to not want to kill came completely out of nowhere.

I think it is more to do with killing out of necessity, or self defence, rather than preemptive killing of others you perceive as a threat.

Its been builiding over a few episodes, which has been at least a few months in walking dead time, if not more.

HughFreakingDillon said:

I think carol is going to die at the end of this season. Or daryl will and her not being there to protect him will bring her back to reality.

It seems interesting, almost unrealistic, that she has been the cold, calculating one all along, doing what needs to be done without even a hint of regret or remorse, and now over the past few episodes she is running a guilt trip? Its weird. Maybe morgan got in her head, but after being intellectual about their situation for so long, its just odd to me that all of a sudden she Is turning emotional. She killed a child in the garden, ffs, two seasons ago!

So, they've said on Talking Dead that the lines between right and wrong are getting blurred a bit with Rick and the crew. Carol got kicked out of the prison for burning 2 that were terminally sick--but making the bad choice of not letting loved ones say goodbye--that's cold. And the sociopath child being killed looking at the flowers was also to protect themselves from the girl not killing them or Elizabeth--understandable but also cold. Now it seems Rick is turning cold like that with his reasoning. I would imagine anyone banished away like Carol was, for what Rick is now doing, would also have some resentment there...she did mention Rick in the letter afterall. But it is just fiction so who knows.

pickupyourwill said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I think carol is going to die at the end of this season. Or daryl will and her not being there to protect him will bring her back to reality.

It seems interesting, almost unrealistic, that she has been the cold, calculating one all along, doing what needs to be done without even a hint of regret or remorse, and now over the past few episodes she is running a guilt trip? Its weird. Maybe morgan got in her head, but after being intellectual about their situation for so long, its just odd to me that all of a sudden she Is turning emotional. She killed a child in the garden, ffs, two seasons ago!

So, they've said on Talking Dead that the lines between right and wrong are getting blurred a bit with Rick and the crew. Carol got kicked out of the prison for burning 2 that were terminally sick--but making the bad choice of not letting loved ones say goodbye--that's cold. And the sociopath child being killed looking at the flowers was also to protect themselves from the girl not killing them or Elizabeth--understandable but also cold. Now it seems Rick is turning cold like that with his reasoning. I would imagine anyone banished away like Carol was, for what Rick is now doing, would also have some resentment there...she did mention Rick in the letter afterall. But it is just fiction so who knows.

I feel like that's putting more thought into it than the writers. But could you imagine if her resentment towards Rick for kicking her out of the prison and how he acts now(though I don't agree he's turned into a cold blooded killer like some seem to) led her to seek out Negan and she became a villain.

Sprunkn7 said:

I'm hoping Carol just needs a walkabout and she comes back? I'm not really sure why she feels she can't stay. They would take care of her! Freakin Morgan messed up her head!

she doesn't want to have to kill for anyone anymore. she keeps having to do the heavy handed work to protect others because either they can't or won't. she's tired of it. putting a bullet in that last girl's skull and then burning those other men alive clinched it.