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OMGkatwoman · March 2016

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

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OMGkatwoman said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

RKCNDY said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
You dumped a very heavy problem asking for answers.
Professional help is the path you should take.
Do her a favour and start immediately.
Perhaps the type of 'help' she is seeking is a place to vent or just to chat with people...to know she is not alone in the difficult world of raising a child.
It's not that hard to comprehend.
The OP talks of a person who has done self harm.
Get help immediately or call 911. Getting "advice" from a chatroom may do more harm than good.
Especially if people tell the OP to pray it all away.
Listen, some of us here work as child advocates, social services etc.... asking for support ,reassurance etc... will do nothing but good ,including prayers sent for this family, if that is their belief system, try to respect that and peoples personal choices regarding such.
No.
If you have information that someone has done self harm or in custody of a person who does these things you have a moral obligation to immediately seek professional help.

I never said there shouldn't be professional intervention, the key word being professional, Op was asking for advice and support in seeking help for her child.

PJfanwillneverleave1 · March 2016

OMGkatwoman said:

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PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

OMGkatwoman said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

RKCNDY said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
You dumped a very heavy problem asking for answers.
Professional help is the path you should take.
Do her a favour and start immediately.
Perhaps the type of 'help' she is seeking is a place to vent or just to chat with people...to know she is not alone in the difficult world of raising a child.
It's not that hard to comprehend.
The OP talks of a person who has done self harm.
Get help immediately or call 911. Getting "advice" from a chatroom may do more harm than good.
Especially if people tell the OP to pray it all away.
Listen, some of us here work as child advocates, social services etc.... asking for support ,reassurance etc... will do nothing but good ,including prayers sent for this family, if that is their belief system, try to respect that and peoples personal choices regarding such.
No.
If you have information that someone has done self harm or in custody of a person who does these things you have a moral obligation to immediately seek professional help.
I never said there shouldn't be professional intervention, the key word being professional, Op was asking for advice and support in seeking help for her child.

And the only answer is to immediately get professional help.
Cutting? It's past the time to ask others for advice.

OMGkatwoman · March 2016

Well, since you want to mince words don't forget support, it's crucial for families in crisis.

PJSiren · March 2016

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

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OMGkatwoman said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

OMGkatwoman said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

RKCNDY said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
You dumped a very heavy problem asking for answers.
Professional help is the path you should take.
Do her a favour and start immediately.
Perhaps the type of 'help' she is seeking is a place to vent or just to chat with people...to know she is not alone in the difficult world of raising a child.
It's not that hard to comprehend.
The OP talks of a person who has done self harm.
Get help immediately or call 911. Getting "advice" from a chatroom may do more harm than good.
Especially if people tell the OP to pray it all away.
Listen, some of us here work as child advocates, social services etc.... asking for support ,reassurance etc... will do nothing but good ,including prayers sent for this family, if that is their belief system, try to respect that and peoples personal choices regarding such.
No.
If you have information that someone has done self harm or in custody of a person who does these things you have a moral obligation to immediately seek professional help.
I never said there shouldn't be professional intervention, the key word being professional, Op was asking for advice and support in seeking help for her child.
And the only answer is to immediately get professional help.
Cutting? It's past the time to ask others for advice.

We are already seeking help for her, that's not what I'm asking for advice or help on...so why don't you quit shitting on me and go somewhere else....

Do you even have kids...do you even know what it's like to be a parent? I'm seeking support for myself not for my kid....

Sprunkn7 · March 2016

I have no advise to give since i don't have kids but this must be heartbreaking for you. I'm sorry and I hope you can work things out. I never listened to my parents when i was 14. I stayed out, smoked pot, shoplifted, I didn't have the internet, the phone and all the "newer" problems teens have to face. I just did it because I wanted to and I got away with it. I was never abused or had any deep seeded issue. We went to counseling as a family and I hated it. But now, 37 years later I can still remember some of the things we talked about. We had a very good counselor who made me see there was a bigger world outside of just me. My mom and I went through a lot but she was always there for me and we have been super close since my early 20's. Hang in there and believe things can turn around.

I always loved my parents and I'm sure she loves you. Best of luck and please, I hope you feel you can vent here.

PJfanwillneverleave1 · March 2016

PJSiren said:

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PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

OMGkatwoman said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

OMGkatwoman said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

RKCNDY said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
You dumped a very heavy problem asking for answers.
Professional help is the path you should take.
Do her a favour and start immediately.
Perhaps the type of 'help' she is seeking is a place to vent or just to chat with people...to know she is not alone in the difficult world of raising a child.
It's not that hard to comprehend.
The OP talks of a person who has done self harm.
Get help immediately or call 911. Getting "advice" from a chatroom may do more harm than good.
Especially if people tell the OP to pray it all away.
Listen, some of us here work as child advocates, social services etc.... asking for support ,reassurance etc... will do nothing but good ,including prayers sent for this family, if that is their belief system, try to respect that and peoples personal choices regarding such.
No.
If you have information that someone has done self harm or in custody of a person who does these things you have a moral obligation to immediately seek professional help.
I never said there shouldn't be professional intervention, the key word being professional, Op was asking for advice and support in seeking help for her child.
And the only answer is to immediately get professional help.
Cutting? It's past the time to ask others for advice.
We are already seeking help for her, that's not what I'm asking for advice or help on...so why don't you quit shitting on me and go somewhere else....

Do you even have kids...do you even know what it's like to be a parent? I'm seeking support for myself not for my kid....

Yes I have children.
And if one of mine did anything like you mentioned I would be pissed too. I would also know that professional help is the only way.

deadendp · March 2016

PJSiren, You have my prayers.

Enkidu · March 2016

I read your post and was going to type "thoughts and prayers" and then read the comments and I'm horrified.

My heart breaks for you and I think counseling is a wonderful idea (it's helped me and my family members many a time). And I think knowing that other people are offering you good thoughts and hugs and prayers - I hope that will give you comfort. I know it would make me feel better.

Many hugs from her in LA.

PJSiren · March 2016

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

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PJSiren said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

OMGkatwoman said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

OMGkatwoman said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

RKCNDY said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
You dumped a very heavy problem asking for answers.
Professional help is the path you should take.
Do her a favour and start immediately.
Perhaps the type of 'help' she is seeking is a place to vent or just to chat with people...to know she is not alone in the difficult world of raising a child.
It's not that hard to comprehend.
The OP talks of a person who has done self harm.
Get help immediately or call 911. Getting "advice" from a chatroom may do more harm than good.
Especially if people tell the OP to pray it all away.
Listen, some of us here work as child advocates, social services etc.... asking for support ,reassurance etc... will do nothing but good ,including prayers sent for this family, if that is their belief system, try to respect that and peoples personal choices regarding such.
No.
If you have information that someone has done self harm or in custody of a person who does these things you have a moral obligation to immediately seek professional help.
I never said there shouldn't be professional intervention, the key word being professional, Op was asking for advice and support in seeking help for her child.
And the only answer is to immediately get professional help.
Cutting? It's past the time to ask others for advice.
We are already seeking help for her, that's not what I'm asking for advice or help on...so why don't you quit shitting on me and go somewhere else....

Do you even have kids...do you even know what it's like to be a parent? I'm seeking support for myself not for my kid....
Yes I have children.
And if one of mine did anything like you mentioned I would be pissed too. I would also know that professional help is the only way.

You're still not getting it...I'm not here for her...I'm here for me...professional help isn't the only way for me...I need the help and support of friends which is what I like to think I have here...and clearly you're not one of them.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · March 2016

She's got some bad friends. In particular... the male friends.

I've seen a lot of girls the same age- which has to be the worst for a young girl- hit rough stretches and bounce back. Although... it seems your daughter is in a particularly rough stretch right now. You're going to have to ride out the storm until the sun pokes out from behind the clouds.

Continue to love. Do the best you can- make her your absolute priority. Nobody here can truly help you, but we can feel your pain. My daughter's 15.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · March 2016

PJFan...

Copy and paste the following in this thread:

Hey... I'm sorry for being insensitive. I thought this was the MT and as such, was in badger mode. I needed to come on here with my AET mindset and either say nothing or offer some words of encouragement or support.

I'm not a bad guy and I'm hoping this apology will suffice. Good luck with your situation (and don't forget to vote for Trump!).

PJfanwillneverleave1 · March 2016

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
PJFan...

Copy and paste the following in this thread:

Hey... I'm sorry for being insensitive. I thought this was the MT and as such, was in badger mode. I needed to come on here with my AET mindset and either say nothing or offer some words of encouragement or support.

I'm not a bad guy and I'm hoping this apology will suffice. Good luck with your situation (and don't forget to vote for Trump!).

No.
If ever you know someone who is doing self harm or who is dealing with a person who is doing that you have a duty to tell them to call 911 or get professional help.

hedonist · March 2016

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

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Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
PJFan...

Copy and paste the following in this thread:

Hey... I'm sorry for being insensitive. I thought this was the MT and as such, was in badger mode. I needed to come on here with my AET mindset and either say nothing or offer some words of encouragement or support.

I'm not a bad guy and I'm hoping this apology will suffice. Good luck with your situation (and don't forget to vote for Trump!).
No.
If ever you know someone who is doing self harm or who is dealing with a person who is doing that you have a duty to tell them to call 911 or get professional help.

She IS getting it. She's not an idiot and is also reaching out beyond the professional side of things.

Let this one go already, for fuck's sake.

I don't know if you actually ARE an asshole but you're acting like an utter one here.

Longueuil · March 2016

What is her story? What happened to her before this crisis?
What is a normal day/week for you and your family?

rollings · March 2016

I fail to see what pjfanwillneverleave actually said wrong in this thread. wow. he/she looks to me like the one getting shit on. wow again.

pjsiren, i remember your boyfriend drenching her with water once before and again during this incident. I can only imagine that action aggravating and alienating and not at all helping or understanding.

she is acting out for some reason as far as I can see. and as others said, it is way more deep-rooted than her current actions account for.

PJSiren · March 2016

He's telling me that I shouldn't be here asking for support and should just go get her help, which we are...he's not getting the point that I'm not here for her I'm here for me....I'm here for support from friends for myself....

He's my husband not my boyfriend and yes he pointed a cup of water on her once before when she wasn't doing what she was told and laying in bed instead....

Pjfan told me that prayers and good thoughts don't work...because he doesn't believe in them...well thanks for shitting your negative beliefs on me....but I believe that prayers and thoughts do help and aside from professional help my family needs that....

I am well aware he problems are more deep rooted I don't need to be told that.....I live with her every day!

hedonist · March 2016

I'll never get someone being an asshole beyond the five-second (one, maybe two-time) rule. There is NO reason to be a dick to someone, over and over and unnecessarily.

Honestly, fuck that and fuck anyone who does that.

Someone's down and reaching out? DON'T KICK THEM.

PJS, you do what you need to - and it sounds like you are.

Don't let others bring you down. Love and support from many here.

Enkidu · March 2016

Agree with Hedo, PJS. Do whatever you need to do. PM me if you'd like, PM any of the many people who are out there supporting you. Ignore the troll who pulls this crap in just about every thread he posts in.

People are here for you! Sending positive thoughts your way and yes, dammit, that can help.

brianlux · March 2016

Haven't followed all of this real closely PJSiren but two things I can say here for sure: you have friends here who care and want to show support and you have one person here who... but wait, we don't need to go there. Just focus on the good folks (and boy, are there some really cool good people here, I know!) who are sending out good thoughts for you.

Good thoughts going out for you!

markymark550 · March 2016

No advice to share. I hope the counselling and therapy works. I'll be keeping you and your family in my prayers.

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