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The Chinese have not come forth and called him out.catefrances said:
solely because he wants to do business with them. he doesn't really love the chinese.... saying he does is in of itself is ridiculous statement.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
He constantly says he loves the Chinese.brianlux said:
Exactly.blueandwhite said:
Someone who openly says the things Trump does about Women, Mexicans and Muslims isn't exactly what I would call a humanitarian. He's preying on the bigotry and hatred of a large portion of the American population and even if he doesn't believe all of the rhetoric he's spouting off he certainly has no problem saying it. I'd say that's a pretty solid example of overt racism and anyone who dismisses it is simply in denial.BS44325 said:
No. We do not know this to be true.brianlux said:
The Art of the Deal and Mein Kampf are both autobiographies written from very different perspectives. There's really no relevance to the comparison. What is relevant is that both men are characterized by various forms of racism and hatred. This we know to be true.BS44325 said:
It is crazy. People who think this way have completely lost all sense of perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf.brianlux said:
The best defense against this kind of characterization is to make it look crazy. Well done BS.BS44325 said:People who are comparing this to Hitler's rise in Nazi Germany have seriously lost their marbles.
Marbles lost... Every single marble.
(Especially with all the interesting talk earlier this year on "if you could go back in time and kill baby hitler would you?"...lot of people polled said yes and now you are giving some nut job the license to go ahead and do it)
Unfortunately what even more crazy is that it is not all that far from the truth.
We know this for sure: Trump does not get up every morning and sing about how he loves all the little children red, brown, yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. It amazes me that anyone out there tries to defend Trump by saying he is not a racist misogynistic hate monger.
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why would they? and who of the billion or so chinese do you want to hear from???PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Chinese have not come forth and called him out.catefrances said:
solely because he wants to do business with them. he doesn't really love the chinese.... saying he does is in of itself is ridiculous statement.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
He constantly says he loves the Chinese.brianlux said:
Exactly.blueandwhite said:
Someone who openly says the things Trump does about Women, Mexicans and Muslims isn't exactly what I would call a humanitarian. He's preying on the bigotry and hatred of a large portion of the American population and even if he doesn't believe all of the rhetoric he's spouting off he certainly has no problem saying it. I'd say that's a pretty solid example of overt racism and anyone who dismisses it is simply in denial.BS44325 said:
No. We do not know this to be true.brianlux said:
The Art of the Deal and Mein Kampf are both autobiographies written from very different perspectives. There's really no relevance to the comparison. What is relevant is that both men are characterized by various forms of racism and hatred. This we know to be true.BS44325 said:
It is crazy. People who think this way have completely lost all sense of perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf.brianlux said:
The best defense against this kind of characterization is to make it look crazy. Well done BS.BS44325 said:People who are comparing this to Hitler's rise in Nazi Germany have seriously lost their marbles.
Marbles lost... Every single marble.
(Especially with all the interesting talk earlier this year on "if you could go back in time and kill baby hitler would you?"...lot of people polled said yes and now you are giving some nut job the license to go ahead and do it)
Unfortunately what even more crazy is that it is not all that far from the truth.
We know this for sure: Trump does not get up every morning and sing about how he loves all the little children red, brown, yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. It amazes me that anyone out there tries to defend Trump by saying he is not a racist misogynistic hate monger.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
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Funny you should ask. Here is something from the state owned paper about how democracy breeds racism, as evidenced by Trumpcatefrances said:
why would they? and who of the billion or so chinese do you want to hear from???PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Chinese have not come forth and called him out.catefrances said:
solely because he wants to do business with them. he doesn't really love the chinese.... saying he does is in of itself is ridiculous statement.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
He constantly says he loves the Chinese.brianlux said:
Exactly.blueandwhite said:
Someone who openly says the things Trump does about Women, Mexicans and Muslims isn't exactly what I would call a humanitarian. He's preying on the bigotry and hatred of a large portion of the American population and even if he doesn't believe all of the rhetoric he's spouting off he certainly has no problem saying it. I'd say that's a pretty solid example of overt racism and anyone who dismisses it is simply in denial.BS44325 said:
No. We do not know this to be true.brianlux said:
The Art of the Deal and Mein Kampf are both autobiographies written from very different perspectives. There's really no relevance to the comparison. What is relevant is that both men are characterized by various forms of racism and hatred. This we know to be true.BS44325 said:
It is crazy. People who think this way have completely lost all sense of perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf.brianlux said:
The best defense against this kind of characterization is to make it look crazy. Well done BS.BS44325 said:People who are comparing this to Hitler's rise in Nazi Germany have seriously lost their marbles.
Marbles lost... Every single marble.
(Especially with all the interesting talk earlier this year on "if you could go back in time and kill baby hitler would you?"...lot of people polled said yes and now you are giving some nut job the license to go ahead and do it)
Unfortunately what even more crazy is that it is not all that far from the truth.
We know this for sure: Trump does not get up every morning and sing about how he loves all the little children red, brown, yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. It amazes me that anyone out there tries to defend Trump by saying he is not a racist misogynistic hate monger.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/03/14/china-paper-says-rise-of-racist-trump-shows-democracy-is-scary/0 -
that article or rehash of the original article lost me at state owned. propaganda does not interest me as a reliable conduit of anything constructive. its hardly a shock that a communist government has come out on the evils of the capitalist USA.. and woop de doop we know democracy, and when we say democracy we really mean capitalism is scary... it is deeply flawed and as far as im concerned not even representative of the people or even in their best interests... therefore hardly democracy anyways.mrussel1 said:
Funny you should ask. Here is something from the state owned paper about how democracy breeds racism, as evidenced by Trumpcatefrances said:
why would they? and who of the billion or so chinese do you want to hear from???PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Chinese have not come forth and called him out.catefrances said:
solely because he wants to do business with them. he doesn't really love the chinese.... saying he does is in of itself is ridiculous statement.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
He constantly says he loves the Chinese.brianlux said:
Exactly.blueandwhite said:
Someone who openly says the things Trump does about Women, Mexicans and Muslims isn't exactly what I would call a humanitarian. He's preying on the bigotry and hatred of a large portion of the American population and even if he doesn't believe all of the rhetoric he's spouting off he certainly has no problem saying it. I'd say that's a pretty solid example of overt racism and anyone who dismisses it is simply in denial.BS44325 said:
No. We do not know this to be true.brianlux said:
The Art of the Deal and Mein Kampf are both autobiographies written from very different perspectives. There's really no relevance to the comparison. What is relevant is that both men are characterized by various forms of racism and hatred. This we know to be true.BS44325 said:
It is crazy. People who think this way have completely lost all sense of perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf.brianlux said:
The best defense against this kind of characterization is to make it look crazy. Well done BS.BS44325 said:People who are comparing this to Hitler's rise in Nazi Germany have seriously lost their marbles.
Marbles lost... Every single marble.
(Especially with all the interesting talk earlier this year on "if you could go back in time and kill baby hitler would you?"...lot of people polled said yes and now you are giving some nut job the license to go ahead and do it)
Unfortunately what even more crazy is that it is not all that far from the truth.
We know this for sure: Trump does not get up every morning and sing about how he loves all the little children red, brown, yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. It amazes me that anyone out there tries to defend Trump by saying he is not a racist misogynistic hate monger.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/03/14/china-paper-says-rise-of-racist-trump-shows-democracy-is-scary/
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say0 -
When you say the Chinese, that typically means the gov't. Are you looking for some independent Chinese new source? Or just a quote from a random Chinese citizen?catefrances said:
that article or rehash of the original article lost me at state owned. propaganda does not interest me as a reliable conduit of anything constructive. its hardly a shock that a communist government has come out on the evils of the capitalist USA.. and woop de doop we know democracy, and when we say democracy we really mean capitalism is scary... it is deeply flawed and as far as im concerned not even representative of the people or even in their best interests... therefore hardly democracy anyways.mrussel1 said:
Funny you should ask. Here is something from the state owned paper about how democracy breeds racism, as evidenced by Trumpcatefrances said:
why would they? and who of the billion or so chinese do you want to hear from???PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Chinese have not come forth and called him out.catefrances said:
solely because he wants to do business with them. he doesn't really love the chinese.... saying he does is in of itself is ridiculous statement.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
He constantly says he loves the Chinese.brianlux said:
Exactly.blueandwhite said:
Someone who openly says the things Trump does about Women, Mexicans and Muslims isn't exactly what I would call a humanitarian. He's preying on the bigotry and hatred of a large portion of the American population and even if he doesn't believe all of the rhetoric he's spouting off he certainly has no problem saying it. I'd say that's a pretty solid example of overt racism and anyone who dismisses it is simply in denial.BS44325 said:
No. We do not know this to be true.brianlux said:
The Art of the Deal and Mein Kampf are both autobiographies written from very different perspectives. There's really no relevance to the comparison. What is relevant is that both men are characterized by various forms of racism and hatred. This we know to be true.BS44325 said:
It is crazy. People who think this way have completely lost all sense of perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf.brianlux said:
The best defense against this kind of characterization is to make it look crazy. Well done BS.BS44325 said:People who are comparing this to Hitler's rise in Nazi Germany have seriously lost their marbles.
Marbles lost... Every single marble.
(Especially with all the interesting talk earlier this year on "if you could go back in time and kill baby hitler would you?"...lot of people polled said yes and now you are giving some nut job the license to go ahead and do it)
Unfortunately what even more crazy is that it is not all that far from the truth.
We know this for sure: Trump does not get up every morning and sing about how he loves all the little children red, brown, yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. It amazes me that anyone out there tries to defend Trump by saying he is not a racist misogynistic hate monger.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/03/14/china-paper-says-rise-of-racist-trump-shows-democracy-is-scary/0 -
When you're done with Erik Larsen you should read some Dilbert...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Hitler never gained his popularity or power detailing the master plan in great detail. These things came into effect well after absolute power was established. The German people were snowed bit by bit until it was much too late to reverse course.BS44325 said:
Yup...it's just a short stroll from there to the gas chambers. Marbles lost...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
It is a stretch in my mind; however, coming from the guy that has routinely insisted Trump is not racist- despite the torrid rate of evidence pointing to the contrary piling up- your point has not been taken very well.BS44325 said:People who are comparing this to Hitler's rise in Nazi Germany have seriously lost their marbles.
Marbles lost... Every single marble.
(Especially with all the interesting talk earlier this year on "if you could go back in time and kill baby hitler would you?"...lot of people polled said yes and now you are giving some nut job the license to go ahead and do it)
What I would say is, without question, there are similarities: in particular, the inocuous starts to both of their political careers, the dangerous ideology he spouts and the thuggery he condones.
Read Erik Larsen's 'In the Garden of Beasts' for a nice account of how Hitler was initially taken as a bit of a joke to the point where he seized control of Germany with an iron fist.
I'm not saying Trump has a master plan that rivals Hitler's. Not at all- it is not what I believe. I'm supporting the notion that there are similarities between Hitler and Trump's ascensions at least to this point. I've already mentioned a few similarities that you ignored and dismiss them all you want... but they're legitimate. Add in a dose of charismatic leadership that serves (and served) them both very well- appealing to emotions of their followers- and there are plenty of parallels that support a reasonable comparison.
As for defending his racist point of view... he has a filter- the racist bytes we are accustomed to now are, in all likelihood, merely a small sampling of his belief system. He's likely a lot more racist than we even have considered to this point.
You're out to lunch. Big time.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/140995102361/the-trump-riots-that-are-mostly-my-fault
He nails this Hitler ridiculousness pretty well...but it is a blog...not sure that meets your criteria of acceptable source material.
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Not to be a douche, but Trump is not anti war. He is also not for free speech. Remember he said he wants to expand the libel laws. I'm not saying he is Hitler, but Adams got some key points wrong when making his case.BS44325 said:
When you're done with Erik Larsen you should read some Dilbert...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Hitler never gained his popularity or power detailing the master plan in great detail. These things came into effect well after absolute power was established. The German people were snowed bit by bit until it was much too late to reverse course.BS44325 said:
Yup...it's just a short stroll from there to the gas chambers. Marbles lost...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
It is a stretch in my mind; however, coming from the guy that has routinely insisted Trump is not racist- despite the torrid rate of evidence pointing to the contrary piling up- your point has not been taken very well.BS44325 said:People who are comparing this to Hitler's rise in Nazi Germany have seriously lost their marbles.
Marbles lost... Every single marble.
(Especially with all the interesting talk earlier this year on "if you could go back in time and kill baby hitler would you?"...lot of people polled said yes and now you are giving some nut job the license to go ahead and do it)
What I would say is, without question, there are similarities: in particular, the inocuous starts to both of their political careers, the dangerous ideology he spouts and the thuggery he condones.
Read Erik Larsen's 'In the Garden of Beasts' for a nice account of how Hitler was initially taken as a bit of a joke to the point where he seized control of Germany with an iron fist.
I'm not saying Trump has a master plan that rivals Hitler's. Not at all- it is not what I believe. I'm supporting the notion that there are similarities between Hitler and Trump's ascensions at least to this point. I've already mentioned a few similarities that you ignored and dismiss them all you want... but they're legitimate. Add in a dose of charismatic leadership that serves (and served) them both very well- appealing to emotions of their followers- and there are plenty of parallels that support a reasonable comparison.
As for defending his racist point of view... he has a filter- the racist bytes we are accustomed to now are, in all likelihood, merely a small sampling of his belief system. He's likely a lot more racist than we even have considered to this point.
You're out to lunch. Big time.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/140995102361/the-trump-riots-that-are-mostly-my-fault
He nails this Hitler ridiculousness pretty well...but it is a blog...not sure that meets your criteria of acceptable source material.
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I read it. I'm not a 'blog snob'.BS44325 said:
When you're done with Erik Larsen you should read some Dilbert...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Hitler never gained his popularity or power detailing the master plan in great detail. These things came into effect well after absolute power was established. The German people were snowed bit by bit until it was much too late to reverse course.BS44325 said:
Yup...it's just a short stroll from there to the gas chambers. Marbles lost...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
It is a stretch in my mind; however, coming from the guy that has routinely insisted Trump is not racist- despite the torrid rate of evidence pointing to the contrary piling up- your point has not been taken very well.BS44325 said:People who are comparing this to Hitler's rise in Nazi Germany have seriously lost their marbles.
Marbles lost... Every single marble.
(Especially with all the interesting talk earlier this year on "if you could go back in time and kill baby hitler would you?"...lot of people polled said yes and now you are giving some nut job the license to go ahead and do it)
What I would say is, without question, there are similarities: in particular, the inocuous starts to both of their political careers, the dangerous ideology he spouts and the thuggery he condones.
Read Erik Larsen's 'In the Garden of Beasts' for a nice account of how Hitler was initially taken as a bit of a joke to the point where he seized control of Germany with an iron fist.
I'm not saying Trump has a master plan that rivals Hitler's. Not at all- it is not what I believe. I'm supporting the notion that there are similarities between Hitler and Trump's ascensions at least to this point. I've already mentioned a few similarities that you ignored and dismiss them all you want... but they're legitimate. Add in a dose of charismatic leadership that serves (and served) them both very well- appealing to emotions of their followers- and there are plenty of parallels that support a reasonable comparison.
As for defending his racist point of view... he has a filter- the racist bytes we are accustomed to now are, in all likelihood, merely a small sampling of his belief system. He's likely a lot more racist than we even have considered to this point.
You're out to lunch. Big time.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/140995102361/the-trump-riots-that-are-mostly-my-fault
He nails this Hitler ridiculousness pretty well...but it is a blog...not sure that meets your criteria of acceptable source material.
Exactly how does this blog debunk any of the similarities I have already pointed out to you? This blog makes reference to some of the common elements between the two idiots in a vague, almost off-hand manner... but then counters them with, what I would call, some fuzzy counter opinions- ultimately lending support to the notion that, as I have modestly contended- there are commonalities which I'm not going to bother repeating.
And did you mean to brush off Erik Larson in favour of Dilbert as you seemingly did? You prefer the work of an opinionist versus the work of a researcher? This is how you came across."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
I agree with you on that actually...the suggested changes to the libel laws are anti-free speech...it's a reason I'm not a fan of Trump. What I think Adams gets right though is just the ridiculousness of the Hitler comparison as a whole. Again...people need to take a deep breath. There are plenty of reasons not to like Trump without going "full hitler".mrussel1 said:
Not to be a douche, but Trump is not anti war. He is also not for free speech. Remember he said he wants to expand the libel laws. I'm not saying he is Hitler, but Adams got some key points wrong when making his case.BS44325 said:
When you're done with Erik Larsen you should read some Dilbert...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Hitler never gained his popularity or power detailing the master plan in great detail. These things came into effect well after absolute power was established. The German people were snowed bit by bit until it was much too late to reverse course.BS44325 said:
Yup...it's just a short stroll from there to the gas chambers. Marbles lost...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
It is a stretch in my mind; however, coming from the guy that has routinely insisted Trump is not racist- despite the torrid rate of evidence pointing to the contrary piling up- your point has not been taken very well.BS44325 said:People who are comparing this to Hitler's rise in Nazi Germany have seriously lost their marbles.
Marbles lost... Every single marble.
(Especially with all the interesting talk earlier this year on "if you could go back in time and kill baby hitler would you?"...lot of people polled said yes and now you are giving some nut job the license to go ahead and do it)
What I would say is, without question, there are similarities: in particular, the inocuous starts to both of their political careers, the dangerous ideology he spouts and the thuggery he condones.
Read Erik Larsen's 'In the Garden of Beasts' for a nice account of how Hitler was initially taken as a bit of a joke to the point where he seized control of Germany with an iron fist.
I'm not saying Trump has a master plan that rivals Hitler's. Not at all- it is not what I believe. I'm supporting the notion that there are similarities between Hitler and Trump's ascensions at least to this point. I've already mentioned a few similarities that you ignored and dismiss them all you want... but they're legitimate. Add in a dose of charismatic leadership that serves (and served) them both very well- appealing to emotions of their followers- and there are plenty of parallels that support a reasonable comparison.
As for defending his racist point of view... he has a filter- the racist bytes we are accustomed to now are, in all likelihood, merely a small sampling of his belief system. He's likely a lot more racist than we even have considered to this point.
You're out to lunch. Big time.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/140995102361/the-trump-riots-that-are-mostly-my-fault
He nails this Hitler ridiculousness pretty well...but it is a blog...not sure that meets your criteria of acceptable source material.0 -
Trump is definitely not hitler. Adolph had a vision and a rock solid set of principles. Trump is a cheap narcissist who will change his position in a second.BS44325 said:
I agree with you on that actually...the suggested changes to the libel laws are anti-free speech...it's a reason I'm not a fan of Trump. What I think Adams gets right though is just the ridiculousness of the Hitler comparison as a whole. Again...people need to take a deep breath. There are plenty of reasons not to like Trump without going "full hitler".mrussel1 said:
Not to be a douche, but Trump is not anti war. He is also not for free speech. Remember he said he wants to expand the libel laws. I'm not saying he is Hitler, but Adams got some key points wrong when making his case.BS44325 said:
When you're done with Erik Larsen you should read some Dilbert...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Hitler never gained his popularity or power detailing the master plan in great detail. These things came into effect well after absolute power was established. The German people were snowed bit by bit until it was much too late to reverse course.BS44325 said:
Yup...it's just a short stroll from there to the gas chambers. Marbles lost...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
It is a stretch in my mind; however, coming from the guy that has routinely insisted Trump is not racist- despite the torrid rate of evidence pointing to the contrary piling up- your point has not been taken very well.BS44325 said:People who are comparing this to Hitler's rise in Nazi Germany have seriously lost their marbles.
Marbles lost... Every single marble.
(Especially with all the interesting talk earlier this year on "if you could go back in time and kill baby hitler would you?"...lot of people polled said yes and now you are giving some nut job the license to go ahead and do it)
What I would say is, without question, there are similarities: in particular, the inocuous starts to both of their political careers, the dangerous ideology he spouts and the thuggery he condones.
Read Erik Larsen's 'In the Garden of Beasts' for a nice account of how Hitler was initially taken as a bit of a joke to the point where he seized control of Germany with an iron fist.
I'm not saying Trump has a master plan that rivals Hitler's. Not at all- it is not what I believe. I'm supporting the notion that there are similarities between Hitler and Trump's ascensions at least to this point. I've already mentioned a few similarities that you ignored and dismiss them all you want... but they're legitimate. Add in a dose of charismatic leadership that serves (and served) them both very well- appealing to emotions of their followers- and there are plenty of parallels that support a reasonable comparison.
As for defending his racist point of view... he has a filter- the racist bytes we are accustomed to now are, in all likelihood, merely a small sampling of his belief system. He's likely a lot more racist than we even have considered to this point.
You're out to lunch. Big time.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/140995102361/the-trump-riots-that-are-mostly-my-fault
He nails this Hitler ridiculousness pretty well...but it is a blog...not sure that meets your criteria of acceptable source material.0 -
Lol!mrussel1 said:
Trump is definitely not hitler. Adolph had a vision and a rock solid set of principles. Trump is a cheap narcissist who will change his position in a second.BS44325 said:
I agree with you on that actually...the suggested changes to the libel laws are anti-free speech...it's a reason I'm not a fan of Trump. What I think Adams gets right though is just the ridiculousness of the Hitler comparison as a whole. Again...people need to take a deep breath. There are plenty of reasons not to like Trump without going "full hitler".mrussel1 said:
Not to be a douche, but Trump is not anti war. He is also not for free speech. Remember he said he wants to expand the libel laws. I'm not saying he is Hitler, but Adams got some key points wrong when making his case.BS44325 said:
When you're done with Erik Larsen you should read some Dilbert...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Hitler never gained his popularity or power detailing the master plan in great detail. These things came into effect well after absolute power was established. The German people were snowed bit by bit until it was much too late to reverse course.BS44325 said:
Yup...it's just a short stroll from there to the gas chambers. Marbles lost...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
It is a stretch in my mind; however, coming from the guy that has routinely insisted Trump is not racist- despite the torrid rate of evidence pointing to the contrary piling up- your point has not been taken very well.BS44325 said:People who are comparing this to Hitler's rise in Nazi Germany have seriously lost their marbles.
Marbles lost... Every single marble.
(Especially with all the interesting talk earlier this year on "if you could go back in time and kill baby hitler would you?"...lot of people polled said yes and now you are giving some nut job the license to go ahead and do it)
What I would say is, without question, there are similarities: in particular, the inocuous starts to both of their political careers, the dangerous ideology he spouts and the thuggery he condones.
Read Erik Larsen's 'In the Garden of Beasts' for a nice account of how Hitler was initially taken as a bit of a joke to the point where he seized control of Germany with an iron fist.
I'm not saying Trump has a master plan that rivals Hitler's. Not at all- it is not what I believe. I'm supporting the notion that there are similarities between Hitler and Trump's ascensions at least to this point. I've already mentioned a few similarities that you ignored and dismiss them all you want... but they're legitimate. Add in a dose of charismatic leadership that serves (and served) them both very well- appealing to emotions of their followers- and there are plenty of parallels that support a reasonable comparison.
As for defending his racist point of view... he has a filter- the racist bytes we are accustomed to now are, in all likelihood, merely a small sampling of his belief system. He's likely a lot more racist than we even have considered to this point.
You're out to lunch. Big time.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/140995102361/the-trump-riots-that-are-mostly-my-fault
He nails this Hitler ridiculousness pretty well...but it is a blog...not sure that meets your criteria of acceptable source material.
Fair enough... Trump is a buffoon compared to Hitler.
There's one more similarity, BS: both look like dorks. F**k... Hitler had the stupidest moustache in the history of the world. And... Trump has the stupidest hair in the modern era. A couple of dorks for sure.
Say nothing of their spastic gyrations when spewing their rhetoric, which are, let's be honest, similar as well. Yah... the more I think of it..."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
id have to look and see if an independent chinese news source exists. id be very interested to see what they had to say.mrussel1 said:
When you say the Chinese, that typically means the gov't. Are you looking for some independent Chinese new source? Or just a quote from a random Chinese citizen?catefrances said:
that article or rehash of the original article lost me at state owned. propaganda does not interest me as a reliable conduit of anything constructive. its hardly a shock that a communist government has come out on the evils of the capitalist USA.. and woop de doop we know democracy, and when we say democracy we really mean capitalism is scary... it is deeply flawed and as far as im concerned not even representative of the people or even in their best interests... therefore hardly democracy anyways.mrussel1 said:
Funny you should ask. Here is something from the state owned paper about how democracy breeds racism, as evidenced by Trumpcatefrances said:
why would they? and who of the billion or so chinese do you want to hear from???PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
The Chinese have not come forth and called him out.catefrances said:
solely because he wants to do business with them. he doesn't really love the chinese.... saying he does is in of itself is ridiculous statement.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
He constantly says he loves the Chinese.brianlux said:
Exactly.blueandwhite said:
Someone who openly says the things Trump does about Women, Mexicans and Muslims isn't exactly what I would call a humanitarian. He's preying on the bigotry and hatred of a large portion of the American population and even if he doesn't believe all of the rhetoric he's spouting off he certainly has no problem saying it. I'd say that's a pretty solid example of overt racism and anyone who dismisses it is simply in denial.BS44325 said:
No. We do not know this to be true.brianlux said:
The Art of the Deal and Mein Kampf are both autobiographies written from very different perspectives. There's really no relevance to the comparison. What is relevant is that both men are characterized by various forms of racism and hatred. This we know to be true.BS44325 said:
It is crazy. People who think this way have completely lost all sense of perspective. The Art of the Deal is not Mein Kampf.brianlux said:
The best defense against this kind of characterization is to make it look crazy. Well done BS.BS44325 said:People who are comparing this to Hitler's rise in Nazi Germany have seriously lost their marbles.
Marbles lost... Every single marble.
(Especially with all the interesting talk earlier this year on "if you could go back in time and kill baby hitler would you?"...lot of people polled said yes and now you are giving some nut job the license to go ahead and do it)
Unfortunately what even more crazy is that it is not all that far from the truth.
We know this for sure: Trump does not get up every morning and sing about how he loves all the little children red, brown, yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. It amazes me that anyone out there tries to defend Trump by saying he is not a racist misogynistic hate monger.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/03/14/china-paper-says-rise-of-racist-trump-shows-democracy-is-scary/hear my name
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Agreed!mrussel1 said:
Trump is definitely not hitler. Adolph had a vision and a rock solid set of principles. Trump is a cheap narcissist who will change his position in a second.BS44325 said:
I agree with you on that actually...the suggested changes to the libel laws are anti-free speech...it's a reason I'm not a fan of Trump. What I think Adams gets right though is just the ridiculousness of the Hitler comparison as a whole. Again...people need to take a deep breath. There are plenty of reasons not to like Trump without going "full hitler".mrussel1 said:
Not to be a douche, but Trump is not anti war. He is also not for free speech. Remember he said he wants to expand the libel laws. I'm not saying he is Hitler, but Adams got some key points wrong when making his case.BS44325 said:
When you're done with Erik Larsen you should read some Dilbert...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Hitler never gained his popularity or power detailing the master plan in great detail. These things came into effect well after absolute power was established. The German people were snowed bit by bit until it was much too late to reverse course.BS44325 said:
Yup...it's just a short stroll from there to the gas chambers. Marbles lost...Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
It is a stretch in my mind; however, coming from the guy that has routinely insisted Trump is not racist- despite the torrid rate of evidence pointing to the contrary piling up- your point has not been taken very well.BS44325 said:People who are comparing this to Hitler's rise in Nazi Germany have seriously lost their marbles.
Marbles lost... Every single marble.
(Especially with all the interesting talk earlier this year on "if you could go back in time and kill baby hitler would you?"...lot of people polled said yes and now you are giving some nut job the license to go ahead and do it)
What I would say is, without question, there are similarities: in particular, the inocuous starts to both of their political careers, the dangerous ideology he spouts and the thuggery he condones.
Read Erik Larsen's 'In the Garden of Beasts' for a nice account of how Hitler was initially taken as a bit of a joke to the point where he seized control of Germany with an iron fist.
I'm not saying Trump has a master plan that rivals Hitler's. Not at all- it is not what I believe. I'm supporting the notion that there are similarities between Hitler and Trump's ascensions at least to this point. I've already mentioned a few similarities that you ignored and dismiss them all you want... but they're legitimate. Add in a dose of charismatic leadership that serves (and served) them both very well- appealing to emotions of their followers- and there are plenty of parallels that support a reasonable comparison.
As for defending his racist point of view... he has a filter- the racist bytes we are accustomed to now are, in all likelihood, merely a small sampling of his belief system. He's likely a lot more racist than we even have considered to this point.
You're out to lunch. Big time.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/140995102361/the-trump-riots-that-are-mostly-my-fault
He nails this Hitler ridiculousness pretty well...but it is a blog...not sure that meets your criteria of acceptable source material.0 -
Compassion? My wife is very religious but she knows what metaphors are. Not believing in evolution is the same as not believing in gravity. Carson is a genius, no doubt, but he completely lacks common sense which also makes him an idiot.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Easy.dignin said:London Bridge said:
So now, Ben Carson is a fool?Free said:
I'll tell you why, because they're playing the game to hopefully be hired as his right-hand fool.London Bridge said:
If Trump is truly all these things, then me exactly why Ben Carson, Chris Christie, and notable others in high places, would ruin their own good name by endorsing him?Free said:
Trump tells exactly how he sees it; as a racist, bigot, misogynist, arrogant, egotistical asshole.PJ_Soul said:
I was being facetious, but anyway, Trump does not tell it how he sees it. He just knows how stupid his supporters are and says what will make them vote for him. I can't believe it's actually working and that people think he's telling the truth, lmao. Ridiculous and scary at the same time.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
No, Trump tells it how he sees it and many people don't like it.PJ_Soul said:
So you admit that the Trump protesters are telling it like it is? Is that why the Trump supporters are getting so mad?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
aahhh politics.Free said:
Drumpf has already threatened to do that. He would be personally responsible.JimmyV said:This kind of thing is only going to get worse. How many here would celebrate if Trump supporters showed up at a Sanders rally in a similar effort? They would be widely condemned, correct? And they would deserve to be. This is not how our political process is supposed to unfold.
Nasty shit happens behind the scenes but when it comes affront people are aghast.
People don't like when others tell it like it is.
If people went to protest at a Bernie rally, Bernie's supporters wouldn't attack them. But even if they did, Bernie would immediately condemn it, not support it.
Who wants to devote time out of their life to protest Bernie? cmon, it's Bernie
If a person who was sitting in a 10c seat wearing Nickelback clothing at a PJ concert started shouting at EV all night that PJ sucks and Nickelback is better would that draw ire?
We're not talking about ire. We're talking about dangerous violence.
He believes the world was literally created in 6 days. He thinks that Charles Darwin was inspired by "forces of evil". He thinks that going to prison turns you gay. These are just a few things I can think of of the top of my head. I'm guessing there's a lot more. The man is an idiot.London Bridge said:
Why, do you have something against Black surgeons? Are you racist?Free said:
I wouldn't exactly trust him operating on me, for sure.London Bridge said:
So now, Ben Carson is a fool?Free said:
I'll tell you why, because they're playing the game to hopefully be hired as his right-hand fool.London Bridge said:
If Trump is truly all these things, then me exactly why Ben Carson, Chris Christie, and notable others in high places, would ruin their own good name by endorsing him?Free said:
Trump tells exactly how he sees it; as a racist, bigot, misogynist, arrogant, egotistical asshole.PJ_Soul said:
I was being facetious, but anyway, Trump does not tell it how he sees it. He just knows how stupid his supporters are and says what will make them vote for him. I can't believe it's actually working and that people think he's telling the truth, lmao. Ridiculous and scary at the same time.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
No, Trump tells it how he sees it and many people don't like it.PJ_Soul said:
So you admit that the Trump protesters are telling it like it is? Is that why the Trump supporters are getting so mad?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
aahhh politics.Free said:
Drumpf has already threatened to do that. He would be personally responsible.JimmyV said:This kind of thing is only going to get worse. How many here would celebrate if Trump supporters showed up at a Sanders rally in a similar effort? They would be widely condemned, correct? And they would deserve to be. This is not how our political process is supposed to unfold.
Nasty shit happens behind the scenes but when it comes affront people are aghast.
People don't like when others tell it like it is.
If people went to protest at a Bernie rally, Bernie's supporters wouldn't attack them. But even if they did, Bernie would immediately condemn it, not support it.
Who wants to devote time out of their life to protest Bernie? cmon, it's Bernie
If a person who was sitting in a 10c seat wearing Nickelback clothing at a PJ concert started shouting at EV all night that PJ sucks and Nickelback is better would that draw ire?
We're not talking about ire. We're talking about dangerous violence.
Do you even know anything about Ben Carson?
The religious people believe this shit. Show some compassion.
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Maybe people shouldn't be comparing drumpf to hitler but instead comparing him to mussolini another famous fascist...
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It's a bit more appropriate, but there are a whole lot of Trump supporters who have no idea what Mussolini even means. Everybody knows Hitler!Bentleyspop said:Maybe people shouldn't be comparing drumpf to hitler but instead comparing him to mussolini another famous fascist...
https://youtu.be/79TRDRPGx34Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Since some people have a problem with making comparisons (OK with me, fair enough) maybe the best thing to do is keep the descriptions generic. Instead of saying Trump is like Hitler or like Mussolini maybe just say it like it is:
Trump promotes hate.
Trump promotes violence.
Trump makes racist statements.
Trump is definitely misogynistic.
Trump is extremely weak on environment (thinks global warming is a hoax).
Pretty hard to argue against those statements."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Agreed. Trump can be and is a variety of terrible things without being Hitler.brianlux said:Since some people have a problem with making comparisons (OK with me, fair enough) maybe the best thing to do is keep the descriptions generic. Instead of saying Trump is like Hitler or like Mussolini maybe just say it like it is:
Trump promotes hate.
Trump promotes violence.
Trump makes racist statements.
Trump is definitely misogynistic.
Trump is extremely weak on environment (thinks global warming is a hoax).
Pretty hard to argue against those statements.___________________________________________
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