Trump's rally in Chicago stopped due to protests

Pearl34Jam said:

brianlux said:

Pearl34Jam said:

brianlux said:

Pearl34Jam said:

rustneversleeps said:

Pearl34Jam said:

josevolution said:

Protester was beat up today !

They shouldn't have protested.

this is almost as comical as "the silent majority" badge

If you don't support someone or something, then don't show up. You should go to an event that you do support. Not disrupt an event like a child and not expect to get popped in the face.

I don't think it's a matter of people protesting Trump simply because they do not support him. It's more about people objecting to having a racist neo-nazi promote hate, violence and racism. It's the same reason why we protested the war Viet Nam and help bring an end to that travesty. What Trump stands for and promotes is a travesty and many Americans find it abhorrent that so many give support to that. Protest against that is a reasonable, justifiable reaction.

And our "very active" President Obama doesn't divide the country? Why does he not ask groups such as the Black Lives Matter group to be peaceful? Why does he not refer to ISIS as terrorists? And how about him saying that Conservatives cling to their guns and religion?

He's completely divided the country and hasn't been able to control the violence and anger. We need someone that will bring about peace and (that familiar word) CHANGE for the better of our country.

How did Obama become part of this conversation all of the sudden? And how did it veer into the subject of a divided nation? You lost me.

If you'd look at the comment I quoted, you'd see that the person said that Trump would promote hate and violence. So I pointed out that our current President has been doing that since 2008. Just adding on to the conversation.

brianlux said:

ckravitz said:

brianlux said:

myoung321 said:

If I were going to a website that has a MAJORITY of members that were Conservatives, then started baiting threads everyday, that I knew were going to create arguments, I would hope to begin to think just maybe I needed to rethink my need for attention.

I've asked the same questions you've asked a couple of times. myyoung, and never really gotten much a fix on it. Odd as it may seem, there are some very conservative people who enjoy the music made by a band that has been outspokenly liberal in their viewpoints. I sometimes wonder if there are very liberal minded folks who still listen to Ted Nugent. Yes, very perplexing.

Is it really perplexing? With all due respect this can be seen as making inferences towards the old "you're with us or you're against us" mentality. Perhaps people find solace in Pearl Jam's art in ways that transcend political views. You can care deeply about people/things despite not seeing eye to eye on things political. There's a lot more to life than that! I know you know this so please don't read this as uppity or preachy but this line of discussion has come up before and it kind of comes across as exclusionary. Beyond the band preaching any type of hatred (which they obviously don't) I don't see why people of all backgrounds, opinions, etc., can't find something from them. I think it is pretty awesome that people enjoy the band despite having differing opinions and coming from different walks of life.

What do you think the band members would say if asked whether they think it's cool to question fandom based purely on political views? Beyond basic human rights stuff, politics are but a small picture of what someone is and I think they know this (but who knows, maybe I'm wrong).

I'm not saying that people who are highly conservative should not be Pearl Jam fans. I never said that. I just find it odd. It's not like the band's liberal/progressive attributes are like their clothes of hair cuts which have changed numerous times during their career. Those progressive elements have been an integral part of they band all along. So yeah, it is perplexing... to me at least. But do I think conservatives should not be allowed to be fans? Of course they can.