America's Gun Violence

usamamasan1 said:

dudeman said:

I'd rather see young people learn gun safety from a parent and be taught to respect the seriousness inherent in them than try to learn on their own when the government determines that it's ok.

My dad taught me how to shoot a pistol when I was 10. It was a .22 with one round in it.

Woot!

Agree and with children

I feel I should clarify this a little. While I was taught gun safety and taught how to handle a pistol when I was 10 years old, I didn't have access to any guns without parental supervision. My experience in learning to shoot was in a controlled environment at the local gun club with my Dad. I didn't own my first handgun until I was 29.

It seems like it could be easy for some on here to imagine 8, 9 and 10 year olds running around with their own, personal handguns. That wasn't the case in my experience. I definitely wasn't packing heat on the playground.

That said, I know there are a lot of irresponsible people out there. Many of them should never be allowed anywhere near guns.

dudeman said:

usamamasan1 said:

dudeman said:

I'd rather see young people learn gun safety from a parent and be taught to respect the seriousness inherent in them than try to learn on their own when the government determines that it's ok.

My dad taught me how to shoot a pistol when I was 10. It was a .22 with one round in it.

Woot!

Agree and with children

I feel I should clarify this a little. While I was taught gun safety and taught how to handle a pistol when I was 10 years old, I didn't have access to any guns without parental supervision. My experience in learning to shoot was in a controlled environment at the local gun club with my Dad. I didn't own my first handgun until I was 29.

It seems like it could be easy for some on here to imagine 8, 9 and 10 year olds running around with their own, personal handguns. That wasn't the case in my experience. I definitely wasn't packing heat on the playground.

That said, I know there are a lot of irresponsible people out there. Many of them should never be allowed anywhere near guns.

Same here but I could see that no matter what I said there would be a detractor...

dudeman said:

mickeyrat said:

dudeman said:

usamamasan1 said:

dudeman said:

I'd rather see young people learn gun safety from a parent and be taught to respect the seriousness inherent in them than try to learn on their own when the government determines that it's ok.

My dad taught me how to shoot a pistol when I was 10. It was a .22 with one round in it.

Woot!

Agree and with children

I feel I should clarify this a little. While I was taught gun safety and taught how to handle a pistol when I was 10 years old, I didn't have access to any guns without parental supervision. My experience in learning to shoot was in a controlled environment at the local gun club with my Dad. I didn't own my first handgun until I was 29.

It seems like it could be easy for some on here to imagine 8, 9 and 10 year olds running around with their own, personal handguns. That wasn't the case in my experience. I definitely wasn't packing heat on the playground.

That said, I know there are a lot of irresponsible people out there. Many of them should never be allowed anywhere near guns.

WOOT

Helpful and eloquent.

Eh, that was the new term for fuck yeah , or agreement.

If I havent said it before , I appreciate your perspective and believe we have more in agreement on guns than disagreement.
Yours is a seriousness about the subject, most welcome.

dudeman said:

Sorry. My sarcasm detector was on yesterday. Apologies.

I appreciate your perspective, as well. Thanks for trying to keep this thread on an even keel.

Just one opinion among many. Its what makes this country so great. And frustrating as fuck!!!

Damn, mickey. That ruling makes no sense to me.

mickeyrat said:

West Virginia State Legislature has overridden the governors veto of a boll that allows for PERMITLESS CONCEAL CARRY.

Look for articles from WVa in about 90 days when it takes effect.

still looking for those texas articles that everyone thought would happen.....

mickeyrat said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

West Virginia State Legislature has overridden the governors veto of a boll that allows for PERMITLESS CONCEAL CARRY.

Look for articles from WVa in about 90 days when it takes effect.

still looking for those texas articles that everyone thought would happen.....

Hmm, you are equating a open carry law WITH license with an unlicensed concealed carry law? WTF man.

AZ has this law. If you are a resident of AZ you can openly carry or conceal carry within the state. It's been like that for years.
I thought FL had a similar law?

Most states have requirements that must be met in order for an individual to carry a concealed firearm. I have absolutely no problem with that.

I'm not a fan of "permitless" concealed carry as it bypasses the screening process that people should be subject to, IMO.

Open carry for those with valid CCW permits is OK in my book too. However, I would personally never carry a firearm openly in public. It invites too much attention and scares some people.

buck502000 said:

Teach kids to shoot guns - it will suppress curiosity and lower accidental deaths.

Yup.

As much as people deride the NRA, they offer youth gun safety programs. If more kids were taught to respect firearms, fewer accidental shootings involving kids would almost certainly be the result.

mcgruff10 said:

dudeman said:

buck502000 said:

Teach kids to shoot guns - it will suppress curiosity and lower accidental deaths.

Yup.

As much as people deride the NRA, they offer youth gun safety programs. If more kids were taught to respect firearms, fewer accidental shootings involving kids would almost certainly be the result.

Bingo.

Which is great. It just requires the parent to exhibit responsible handling as well. If the parent(s) wont , why should the child?