America's Gun Violence

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  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Two large deer this year for me. Harvest about 200lbs of meat.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,413

    Two large deer this year for me. Harvest about 200lbs of meat.

    So?
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499

    Two large deer this year for me. Harvest about 200lbs of meat.

    Happy eating :)
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    took 16 steaks and made my own jerky. probably best ever. these guys eat wild apples, acorns, clover...more earthy than many of the deer that get fatted up on corn. These some woods deer.

    WOOT
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJPOWER said:

    Oh, I do plenty of that too (hiking and taking photos). Wildlife photography would probably fit into my top 5 list of passions. I am a sociologist/biologist and have the degree to back up that claim. And I am being honest, I hunt for many reasons, but "snuffing the life out of a living creature with a gun" is not one of those. In fact, I have saved the lives of a handful of deer that were either stuck in a fence or antler locked. I try to be as self-sufficient as possible and garden and can food, etc. I see reliance as weakness. You seem like exactly the type of person that I see as uneducated and pitiful. Now go trim your "man" bun.
    Edit: I do fish purely for the enjoyment of fishing...pure relaxing entertainment. Do you consider fishing as a form hunting? If so, I guess I'm guilty there.
    That's either a lie, or you are the only hunter in the world who can honestly say that.

    "Now go trim your man nun"

    Seriously???

    I suppose then it would be appropriate to tell you to go trim your mullet.
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  • rgambs said:

    That's either a lie, or you are the only hunter in the world who can honestly say that.

    "Now go trim your man nun"

    Seriously???

    I suppose then it would be appropriate to tell you to go trim your mullet.
    Not to mention 'brush his tooth'.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    Not to mention 'brush his tooth'.
    Hahaha I wanted to go with a toothless joke but I could find any that had any bite to them, brush your tooth is brilliant lol
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  • PJPOWER said:

    Oh, I do plenty of that too (hiking and taking photos). Wildlife photography would probably fit into my top 5 list of passions. I am a sociologist/biologist and have the degree to back up that claim. And I am being honest, I hunt for many reasons, but "snuffing the life out of a living creature with a gun" is not one of those. In fact, I have saved the lives of a handful of deer that were either stuck in a fence or antler locked. I try to be as self-sufficient as possible and garden and can food, etc. I see reliance as weakness. You seem like exactly the type of person that I see as uneducated and pitiful. Now go trim your "man" bun.
    Edit: I do fish purely for the enjoyment of fishing...pure relaxing entertainment. Do you consider fishing as a form hunting? If so, I guess I'm guilty there.
    As for your question... it depends. Do you catch and release? If you are fishing strictly for 'pure relaxing entertainment'... I would assume so. If you are fishing for the food and for 'pure relaxing entertainment'... this would be a form of hunting. I'm not opposed to either.

    Where did you get a sociology/biology degree? I've honestly never heard of such a degree. What's kind of weird is those are two fields are not the most compatible subject areas I could think of.
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  • rgambs said:

    Hahaha I wanted to go with a toothless joke but I could find any that had any bite to them, brush your tooth is brilliant lol
    haha

    I reckon we better git now, hyuk hyuk.
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  • rssesqrssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    but Mr. Bloomberg I cant afford 12 former Mossad agents to guard my daughter while she rides her 20 million dollar horsey collection.
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,143
    rgambs said:

    That's either a lie, or you are the only hunter in the world who can honestly say that.

    "Now go trim your man nun"

    Seriously???

    I suppose then it would be appropriate to tell you to go trim your mullet.
    How many hunters are close friends of yours? All of my friends who hunt fit PJPOWER's assessment. A lot of good comes from hunting. Personally, I would rather see a deer killed humanely and used for food than see them splattered all over the highway. In Michigan, there was always the concern of Chronic Wasting Disease. Hunters help to control the spread of that.

    I thought this thread was about America's Gun Violence. The personal jabs, general disparaging of whole groups of people based on the actions of a few and the douchebaggery are getting old.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    dudeman said:

    How many hunters are close friends of yours? All of my friends who hunt fit PJPOWER's assessment. A lot of good comes from hunting. Personally, I would rather see a deer killed humanely and used for food than see them splattered all over the highway. In Michigan, there was always the concern of Chronic Wasting Disease. Hunters help to control the spread of that.

    I thought this thread was about America's Gun Violence. The personal jabs, general disparaging of whole groups of people based on the actions of a few and the douchebaggery are getting old.
    All of my cousins, including the one who is my best friend.
    Nobody fits PJPOWER's description, that is all just justification. I am not against hunting and I am not denying it has many benefits, I just wish people would quit the phoney-baloney and admit that they hunt because they enjoy hunting. Not because A, B, and C, but because it is a thrilling rush to be on the edge of a kill.

    I usually shoot 2 deer a year, often from my deck, but I don't consider myself a hunter. I don't do it for sport, I do it for the harvest. My cousin processes them for me and I have wholesome food and keep my ecosystem in balance. I don't enjoy it, it makes me sick to my stomach...when you look down the sights your heart races, when the deer drops my heart just about drops.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited February 2016
    rgambs said:

    All of my cousins, including the one who is my best friend.
    Nobody fits PJPOWER's description, that is all just justification. I am not against hunting and I am not denying it has many benefits, I just wish people would quit the phoney-baloney and admit that they hunt because they enjoy hunting. Not because A, B, and C, but because it is a thrilling rush to be on the edge of a kill.

    I usually shoot 2 deer a year, often from my deck, but I don't consider myself a hunter. I don't do it for sport, I do it for the harvest. My cousin processes them for me and I have wholesome food and keep my ecosystem in balance. I don't enjoy it, it makes me sick to my stomach...when you look down the sights your heart races, when the deer drops my heart just about drops.
    The thrill of the kill thing left a long time ago. Here's how it usually goes down. I park my truck, walk about 3 miles in the dark, sit next to a bush where I have scouted previously and found a trail, wait patiently for one to get within range and take my shot. I do enjoy the solitude and peacefulness and usually have a camera in my backpack to take pics of foxes/bobcats or whatever else I may come across. I don't have heads on my wall and usually chop the antlers for my dogs to chew on. This whole "every hunter is a psychopath" rhetoric is just not true, no matter what you have seen or been around. You give people shit for actually working to harvest a deer when you shoot them from your front porch...ever heard of fair chase? I'm guessing not. Once again, uneducated and pitiful.
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  • dudeman said:

    How many hunters are close friends of yours? All of my friends who hunt fit PJPOWER's assessment. A lot of good comes from hunting. Personally, I would rather see a deer killed humanely and used for food than see them splattered all over the highway. In Michigan, there was always the concern of Chronic Wasting Disease. Hunters help to control the spread of that.

    I thought this thread was about America's Gun Violence. The personal jabs, general disparaging of whole groups of people based on the actions of a few and the douchebaggery are getting old.
    Debatable for sure: the notion that hunters do so less for the 'thrill of the kill' and more for pragmatic purposes. Some certainly are practical, but I would speculate most enjoy the idea of killing something. Look at the pictures splashed all over their facebook pages would attest to this ("Hey... look at me and what I killed!" vs. treading respectfully out of the bush with the dead animal).

    And I'm not against hunting for food. I encourage it actually. It's way fairer than factory farming and way more humane. But let's call a spade a spade. You can't say you 'only kill what you need' and then proceed to boast of killing additional animals in the interest of providing to needy people.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,708
    edited February 2016
    I don't have a problem with hunting/fishing when the kill is eaten. I eat meat so I can't complain.

    I can't imagine actually hunting/fishing. It seems so mindnumbingly boring that I would probably shoot myself. I gave up fishing as a child for that same reason. Just fucking boring.

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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJPOWER said:

    The thrill of the kill thing left a long time ago. Here's how it usually goes down. I park my truck, walk about 3 miles in the dark, sit next to a bush where I have scouted previously and found a trail, wait patiently for one to get within range and take my shot. I do enjoy the solitude and peacefulness and usually have a camera in my backpack to take pics of foxes/bobcats or whatever else I may come across. I don't have heads on my wall and usually chop the antlers for my dogs to chew on. This whole "every hunter is a psychopath" rhetoric is just not true, no matter what you have seen or been around. You give people shit for actually working to harvest a deer when you shoot them from your front porch...ever heard of fair chase? I'm guessing not. Once again, uneducated and pitiful.
    I don't give people shit, I just ask for honesty.
    Fair chase? Hahaha maybe if you craft your own bow and arrows.
    Walking a few miles into the woods doesn't make it more ethical, you sit and wait for a deer dumb enough to get close to you just the same as I do.
    Your use of personal insults makes you look weak like the Nuge does when he rants.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499

    As for your question... it depends. Do you catch and release? If you are fishing strictly for 'pure relaxing entertainment'... I would assume so. If you are fishing for the food and for 'pure relaxing entertainment'... this would be a form of hunting. I'm not opposed to either.

    Where did you get a sociology/biology degree? I've honestly never heard of such a degree. What's kind of weird is those are two fields are not the most compatible subject areas I could think of.
    I do like to eat the fish too, but I do not see them as a staple of my diet... And I guess I should have clarified; it's two separate degrees. Masters in Sociology and Bachelors in Biology from Texas A&M. No mullet and zero cavities...no man bun either, lol
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499

    I don't have a problem with hunting/fishing when the kill is eaten. I eat meat so I can't complain.

    I can't imagine actually hunting/fishing. It seems so mindnumbingly boring that I would probably shoot myself. I gave up fishing as a child for that same reason. Just fucking boring.

    Meditative...it's healthy
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,545
    edited February 2016
    None of this being posted is on topic.

    No link right now..


    Few days ago 3-4 y.o. finds loaded ,not on safety, round chambered weapon and kills his 9 yr old sister.

    Family member who "stored" this in the nightstand wasnt home. No one else in the house claims knowledge of location.

    L.E. says "tragic accident".

    My ass. Easily foreseen. NOT an accident. A decent probability is what it is.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,413
    edited February 2016
    PJPOWER said:

    The thrill of the kill thing left a long time ago. Here's how it usually goes down. I park my truck, walk about 3 miles in the dark, sit next to a bush where I have scouted previously and found a trail, wait patiently for one to get within range and take my shot. I do enjoy the solitude and peacefulness and usually have a camera in my backpack to take pics of foxes/bobcats or whatever else I may come across. I don't have heads on my wall and usually chop the antlers for my dogs to chew on. This whole "every hunter is a psychopath" rhetoric is just not true, no matter what you have seen or been around. You give people shit for actually working to harvest a deer when you shoot them from your front porch...ever heard of fair chase? I'm guessing not. Once again, uneducated and pitiful.
    It is beyond me how anyone can possibly connect peacefulness to waiting around to murder a defenseless being. That just makes no sense to me at all. I'm not even criticizing that you're hunting. I just can't fathom how anyone can kill things, especially when it's not even out of necessity, and in any way feel good - or not bad - doing it.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mickeyrat said:
    Good! Now THAT is fucked up and every legit hunter would advocate a severe punishment for those assholes.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited February 2016
    Pjsoul,

    It is actually one of the most natural states of being. Tranquility. Hunting is not the only reason I get out into the woods, just two or so months a year it is.
    There are times I don't come back with a deer and am glad, lol. I still succeeded in getting away from the superficial world and get time to reflect. The being out in the wild is what I find tranquility in, not the shooting of the animal. I know that this doesn't make sense to a vegan or vegetarian, but it's just a better, more realistic, more healthy way of going to the Super Market for me. In fact, it sticks it to the kill farms! I think we can all agree that is a good thing! Does it involve stopping a heart? Yes, but it is what gardening is to vegetables, a nessecary and real thing if you eat meat. I choose to eat meat and am realistic about where it came from. In fact, some people believe plants have souls and will not eat them and would look at a vegan as a murderer and starve themselves to avoid it. Crazy? I agree! We're all crazy in our own ways, but I choose to be crazy in the way that puts me in the outdoors more and let's me eat more naturally. And I really REALLY hate standing in lines at the local supermarket :)
    All jokes aside...this is the story of the hunters that I am around, I don't know what kind of "crazy" people some of these dudes have been around, but it's a different kind of crazy than most hunters in Texas that I know...and I know a lot!
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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,143
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    dudeman said:
    I see stories like that everyday. I guess it just depends on who people are sold to on Facebook as to what they ignore or not.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,413
    PJPOWER said:

    I see stories like that everyday. I guess it just depends on who people are sold to on Facebook as to what they ignore or not.
    Really, you see those stories everyday? Well please, post them for us.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJ_Soul said:

    Really, you see those stories everyday? Well please, post them for us.
    I am not diligent in logging on to the forum on a daily basis, but I can start posting them when I see them if you would like.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,413
    edited February 2016
    PJPOWER said:

    I am not diligent in logging on to the forum on a daily basis, but I can start posting them when I see them if you would like.
    Sure, I look forward to your brand new articles daily, thanks.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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