America's Gun Violence
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Ted Nugent represents all that is wrong with this country.
Have Wango tango on vinyl. Doesn't get played though. Now my two record live skynrd does.josevolution said:I hate Nugent but I did see him
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Should use that Wango Tango for target practice and send the shards to ted.callen said:Ted Nugent represents all that is wrong with this country.
Have Wango tango on vinyl. Doesn't get played though. Now my two record live skynrd does.josevolution said:I hate Nugent but I did see him
Open for the real complete Lynyrd Skynyrd at Nassau coliseum in 77 or 78 lol what a trip !!0 -
Hahaha bird hunting...like where you buy birds and starve, dehydrate, and shake the fuck out of them so they cant get too far, then turn your dogs loose and blast the half-dead birds out of the sky..and then don't bother eating them because they are full of shot...usamamasan1 said:I want to go bird hunting.
That's not hunting, that's homicidal masturbation!Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
That's a pretty broad assumption don't you think. I, for one, have hunted many birds and they have all been free roaming. Way to throw everyone under the bus based on the action of a few...rgambs said:
Hahaha bird hunting...like where you buy birds and starve, dehydrate, and shake the fuck out of them so they cant get too far, then turn your dogs loose and blast the half-dead birds out of the sky..and then don't bother eating them because they are full of shot...usamamasan1 said:I want to go bird hunting.
That's not hunting, that's homicidal masturbation!0 -
Well if you don't hunt like that you aren't under the bus and you shouldn't be offended. You should agree, that isn't hunting at all.PJPOWER said:
That's a pretty broad assumption don't you think. I, for one, have hunted many birds and they have all been free roaming. Way to throw everyone under the bus based on the action of a few...rgambs said:
Hahaha bird hunting...like where you buy birds and starve, dehydrate, and shake the fuck out of them so they cant get too far, then turn your dogs loose and blast the half-dead birds out of the sky..and then don't bother eating them because they are full of shot...usamamasan1 said:I want to go bird hunting.
That's not hunting, that's homicidal masturbation!Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
I do mostly agree, although I can understand how "hunts" like that could be useful if someone is trying to train their birddog. Usually those types of hunts are paid for by "city boys" that have no other options. I always laughed at the ones that bragged about "limiting out" on released birds, but as long as they're being legal about it and it keeps them from poaching on my land I'm all for it! On another positive point for hunting; this year I bagged four deer. Butchered two for myself and donated the other two to feed the less fortunate. Total costs: hunting license-$35. Processing fees for the ones that I kept- $0 (got my own setup). The two that I donated-$60 processing fees/deer. So for roughly $150 I have enough meat to last about a year and have fed numorous others! That's what hunting is all about for me and the mentality shared by most other true hunters. On top of that, you gain some humbleness, solidarity to reflect on life and other things while surrounded by nature, and a high amount of respect for the food that is on the table. I give little regard to "anti-hunters" and usually just label them as uneducated and pitiful.rgambs said:
Well if you don't hunt like that you aren't under the bus and you shouldn't be offended. You should agree, that isn't hunting at all.PJPOWER said:
That's a pretty broad assumption don't you think. I, for one, have hunted many birds and they have all been free roaming. Way to throw everyone under the bus based on the action of a few...rgambs said:
Hahaha bird hunting...like where you buy birds and starve, dehydrate, and shake the fuck out of them so they cant get too far, then turn your dogs loose and blast the half-dead birds out of the sky..and then don't bother eating them because they are full of shot...usamamasan1 said:I want to go bird hunting.
That's not hunting, that's homicidal masturbation!
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Uneducated and pitiful is not a fair or accurate appraisal IMO.PJPOWER said:
I do mostly agree, although I can understand how "hunts" like that could be useful if someone is trying to train their birddog. Usually those types of hunts are paid for by "city boys" that have no other options. I always laughed at the ones that bragged about "limiting out" on released birds, but as long as they're being legal about it and it keeps them from poaching on my land I'm all for it! On another positive point for hunting; this year I bagged four deer. Butchered two for myself and donated the other two to feed the less fortunate. Total costs: hunting license-$35. Processing fees for the ones that I kept- $0 (got my own setup). The two that I donated-$60 processing fees/deer. So for roughly $150 I have enough meat to last about a year and have fed numorous others! That's what hunting is all about for me and the mentality shared by most other true hunters. On top of that, you gain some humbleness, solidarity to reflect on life and other things while surrounded by nature, and a high amount of respect for the food that is on the table. I give little regard to "anti-hunters" and usually just label them as uneducated and pitiful.rgambs said:
Well if you don't hunt like that you aren't under the bus and you shouldn't be offended. You should agree, that isn't hunting at all.PJPOWER said:
That's a pretty broad assumption don't you think. I, for one, have hunted many birds and they have all been free roaming. Way to throw everyone under the bus based on the action of a few...rgambs said:
Hahaha bird hunting...like where you buy birds and starve, dehydrate, and shake the fuck out of them so they cant get too far, then turn your dogs loose and blast the half-dead birds out of the sky..and then don't bother eating them because they are full of shot...usamamasan1 said:I want to go bird hunting.
That's not hunting, that's homicidal masturbation!
I am not against hunting (excluding the canned hunts) but I am against most hunters. I grew up within hunting culture in Appalachia, and I can tell you, unequivocally, that the way you are describing hunting is a romanticized fantasy.
It isn't a sacred ritual or a necessary harvest, it isn't an ecological balancing or a humanitarian pursuit, IT IS A SPORT THAT PEOPLE DO FOR FUN!
True hunters, as you call them, are a tiny minority, there is just no doubt about that.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
I'm going to go with the classic "I'd like to see some stats to back that up" argument. Most hunters that I know do see it as a way of life and are outstanding citizens that prefer to eat harvested meat over feed yard fowl. Many of the communities around here benefit greatly from the hunters coming in in a lot the same way some communities profit from tourism/concert venues/etc. Some college students that I grew up with payed their way by only working at the local processors during deer season. Maybe you just grew up in the wrong place...I have no problems with it as a sport or a way of life, but opinions and assholes I guess.rgambs said:
Uneducated and pitiful is not a fair or accurate appraisal IMO.PJPOWER said:
I do mostly agree, although I can understand how "hunts" like that could be useful if someone is trying to train their birddog. Usually those types of hunts are paid for by "city boys" that have no other options. I always laughed at the ones that bragged about "limiting out" on released birds, but as long as they're being legal about it and it keeps them from poaching on my land I'm all for it! On another positive point for hunting; this year I bagged four deer. Butchered two for myself and donated the other two to feed the less fortunate. Total costs: hunting license-$35. Processing fees for the ones that I kept- $0 (got my own setup). The two that I donated-$60 processing fees/deer. So for roughly $150 I have enough meat to last about a year and have fed numorous others! That's what hunting is all about for me and the mentality shared by most other true hunters. On top of that, you gain some humbleness, solidarity to reflect on life and other things while surrounded by nature, and a high amount of respect for the food that is on the table. I give little regard to "anti-hunters" and usually just label them as uneducated and pitiful.rgambs said:
Well if you don't hunt like that you aren't under the bus and you shouldn't be offended. You should agree, that isn't hunting at all.PJPOWER said:
That's a pretty broad assumption don't you think. I, for one, have hunted many birds and they have all been free roaming. Way to throw everyone under the bus based on the action of a few...rgambs said:
Hahaha bird hunting...like where you buy birds and starve, dehydrate, and shake the fuck out of them so they cant get too far, then turn your dogs loose and blast the half-dead birds out of the sky..and then don't bother eating them because they are full of shot...usamamasan1 said:I want to go bird hunting.
That's not hunting, that's homicidal masturbation!
I am not against hunting (excluding the canned hunts) but I am against most hunters. I grew up within hunting culture in Appalachia, and I can tell you, unequivocally, that the way you are describing hunting is a romanticized fantasy.
It isn't a sacred ritual or a necessary harvest, it isn't an ecological balancing or a humanitarian pursuit, IT IS A SPORT THAT PEOPLE DO FOR FUN!
True hunters, as you call them, are a tiny minority, there is just no doubt about that.Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
I grew up hunting. I don't do it anymore, but don't begrudge any hunter for doing it provided they are hunting for the right reasons.PJPOWER said:
I do mostly agree, although I can understand how "hunts" like that could be useful if someone is trying to train their birddog. Usually those types of hunts are paid for by "city boys" that have no other options. I always laughed at the ones that bragged about "limiting out" on released birds, but as long as they're being legal about it and it keeps them from poaching on my land I'm all for it! On another positive point for hunting; this year I bagged four deer. Butchered two for myself and donated the other two to feed the less fortunate. Total costs: hunting license-$35. Processing fees for the ones that I kept- $0 (got my own setup). The two that I donated-$60 processing fees/deer. So for roughly $150 I have enough meat to last about a year and have fed numorous others! That's what hunting is all about for me and the mentality shared by most other true hunters. On top of that, you gain some humbleness, solidarity to reflect on life and other things while surrounded by nature, and a high amount of respect for the food that is on the table. I give little regard to "anti-hunters" and usually just label them as uneducated and pitiful.rgambs said:
Well if you don't hunt like that you aren't under the bus and you shouldn't be offended. You should agree, that isn't hunting at all.PJPOWER said:
That's a pretty broad assumption don't you think. I, for one, have hunted many birds and they have all been free roaming. Way to throw everyone under the bus based on the action of a few...rgambs said:
Hahaha bird hunting...like where you buy birds and starve, dehydrate, and shake the fuck out of them so they cant get too far, then turn your dogs loose and blast the half-dead birds out of the sky..and then don't bother eating them because they are full of shot...usamamasan1 said:I want to go bird hunting.
That's not hunting, that's homicidal masturbation!
You can get a high from nature by hiking and taking photos. You don't need to go kill something to achieve those objectives. That rationale you offered is weak.
Your last statement is judgemental. Let me be judgemental: I think you enjoy killing things more than you enjoy charity work. I think you enjoy snuffing the life of a living creature with your gun and donating your extra kills doesn't change that fact. Be honest... you're not undergoing the hunt for anything other than yourself."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Oh, I do plenty of that too (hiking and taking photos). Wildlife photography would probably fit into my top 5 list of passions. I am a sociologist/biologist and have the degree to back up that claim. And I am being honest, I hunt for many reasons, but "snuffing the life out of a living creature with a gun" is not one of those. In fact, I have saved the lives of a handful of deer that were either stuck in a fence or antler locked. I try to be as self-sufficient as possible and garden and can food, etc. I see reliance as weakness. You seem like exactly the type of person that I see as uneducated and pitiful. Now go trim your "man" bun.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I grew up hunting. I don't do it anymore, but don't begrudge any hunter for doing it provided they are hunting for the right reasons.PJPOWER said:
I do mostly agree, although I can understand how "hunts" like that could be useful if someone is trying to train their birddog. Usually those types of hunts are paid for by "city boys" that have no other options. I always laughed at the ones that bragged about "limiting out" on released birds, but as long as they're being legal about it and it keeps them from poaching on my land I'm all for it! On another positive point for hunting; this year I bagged four deer. Butchered two for myself and donated the other two to feed the less fortunate. Total costs: hunting license-$35. Processing fees for the ones that I kept- $0 (got my own setup). The two that I donated-$60 processing fees/deer. So for roughly $150 I have enough meat to last about a year and have fed numorous others! That's what hunting is all about for me and the mentality shared by most other true hunters. On top of that, you gain some humbleness, solidarity to reflect on life and other things while surrounded by nature, and a high amount of respect for the food that is on the table. I give little regard to "anti-hunters" and usually just label them as uneducated and pitiful.rgambs said:
Well if you don't hunt like that you aren't under the bus and you shouldn't be offended. You should agree, that isn't hunting at all.PJPOWER said:
That's a pretty broad assumption don't you think. I, for one, have hunted many birds and they have all been free roaming. Way to throw everyone under the bus based on the action of a few...rgambs said:
Hahaha bird hunting...like where you buy birds and starve, dehydrate, and shake the fuck out of them so they cant get too far, then turn your dogs loose and blast the half-dead birds out of the sky..and then don't bother eating them because they are full of shot...usamamasan1 said:I want to go bird hunting.
That's not hunting, that's homicidal masturbation!
You can get a high from nature by hiking and taking photos. You don't need to go kill something to achieve those objectives. That rationale you offered is weak.
Your last statement is judgemental. Let me be judgemental: I think you enjoy killing things more than you enjoy charity work. I think you enjoy snuffing the life of a living creature with your gun and donating your extra kills doesn't change that fact. Be honest... you're not undergoing the hunt for anything other than yourself.
Edit: I do fish purely for the enjoyment of fishing...pure relaxing entertainment. Do you consider fishing as a form hunting? If so, I guess I'm guilty there.Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
Two large deer this year for me. Harvest about 200lbs of meat.0
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So?usamamasan1 said:Two large deer this year for me. Harvest about 200lbs of meat.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Happy eatingusamamasan1 said:Two large deer this year for me. Harvest about 200lbs of meat.
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took 16 steaks and made my own jerky. probably best ever. these guys eat wild apples, acorns, clover...more earthy than many of the deer that get fatted up on corn. These some woods deer.
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That's either a lie, or you are the only hunter in the world who can honestly say that.PJPOWER said:
Oh, I do plenty of that too (hiking and taking photos). Wildlife photography would probably fit into my top 5 list of passions. I am a sociologist/biologist and have the degree to back up that claim. And I am being honest, I hunt for many reasons, but "snuffing the life out of a living creature with a gun" is not one of those. In fact, I have saved the lives of a handful of deer that were either stuck in a fence or antler locked. I try to be as self-sufficient as possible and garden and can food, etc. I see reliance as weakness. You seem like exactly the type of person that I see as uneducated and pitiful. Now go trim your "man" bun.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I grew up hunting. I don't do it anymore, but don't begrudge any hunter for doing it provided they are hunting for the right reasons.PJPOWER said:
I do mostly agree, although I can understand how "hunts" like that could be useful if someone is trying to train their birddog. Usually those types of hunts are paid for by "city boys" that have no other options. I always laughed at the ones that bragged about "limiting out" on released birds, but as long as they're being legal about it and it keeps them from poaching on my land I'm all for it! On another positive point for hunting; this year I bagged four deer. Butchered two for myself and donated the other two to feed the less fortunate. Total costs: hunting license-$35. Processing fees for the ones that I kept- $0 (got my own setup). The two that I donated-$60 processing fees/deer. So for roughly $150 I have enough meat to last about a year and have fed numorous others! That's what hunting is all about for me and the mentality shared by most other true hunters. On top of that, you gain some humbleness, solidarity to reflect on life and other things while surrounded by nature, and a high amount of respect for the food that is on the table. I give little regard to "anti-hunters" and usually just label them as uneducated and pitiful.rgambs said:
Well if you don't hunt like that you aren't under the bus and you shouldn't be offended. You should agree, that isn't hunting at all.PJPOWER said:
That's a pretty broad assumption don't you think. I, for one, have hunted many birds and they have all been free roaming. Way to throw everyone under the bus based on the action of a few...rgambs said:
Hahaha bird hunting...like where you buy birds and starve, dehydrate, and shake the fuck out of them so they cant get too far, then turn your dogs loose and blast the half-dead birds out of the sky..and then don't bother eating them because they are full of shot...usamamasan1 said:I want to go bird hunting.
That's not hunting, that's homicidal masturbation!
You can get a high from nature by hiking and taking photos. You don't need to go kill something to achieve those objectives. That rationale you offered is weak.
Your last statement is judgemental. Let me be judgemental: I think you enjoy killing things more than you enjoy charity work. I think you enjoy snuffing the life of a living creature with your gun and donating your extra kills doesn't change that fact. Be honest... you're not undergoing the hunt for anything other than yourself.
Edit: I do fish purely for the enjoyment of fishing...pure relaxing entertainment. Do you consider fishing as a form hunting? If so, I guess I'm guilty there.
"Now go trim your man nun"
Seriously???
I suppose then it would be appropriate to tell you to go trim your mullet.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Not to mention 'brush his tooth'.rgambs said:
That's either a lie, or you are the only hunter in the world who can honestly say that.PJPOWER said:
Oh, I do plenty of that too (hiking and taking photos). Wildlife photography would probably fit into my top 5 list of passions. I am a sociologist/biologist and have the degree to back up that claim. And I am being honest, I hunt for many reasons, but "snuffing the life out of a living creature with a gun" is not one of those. In fact, I have saved the lives of a handful of deer that were either stuck in a fence or antler locked. I try to be as self-sufficient as possible and garden and can food, etc. I see reliance as weakness. You seem like exactly the type of person that I see as uneducated and pitiful. Now go trim your "man" bun.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I grew up hunting. I don't do it anymore, but don't begrudge any hunter for doing it provided they are hunting for the right reasons.PJPOWER said:
I do mostly agree, although I can understand how "hunts" like that could be useful if someone is trying to train their birddog. Usually those types of hunts are paid for by "city boys" that have no other options. I always laughed at the ones that bragged about "limiting out" on released birds, but as long as they're being legal about it and it keeps them from poaching on my land I'm all for it! On another positive point for hunting; this year I bagged four deer. Butchered two for myself and donated the other two to feed the less fortunate. Total costs: hunting license-$35. Processing fees for the ones that I kept- $0 (got my own setup). The two that I donated-$60 processing fees/deer. So for roughly $150 I have enough meat to last about a year and have fed numorous others! That's what hunting is all about for me and the mentality shared by most other true hunters. On top of that, you gain some humbleness, solidarity to reflect on life and other things while surrounded by nature, and a high amount of respect for the food that is on the table. I give little regard to "anti-hunters" and usually just label them as uneducated and pitiful.rgambs said:
Well if you don't hunt like that you aren't under the bus and you shouldn't be offended. You should agree, that isn't hunting at all.PJPOWER said:
That's a pretty broad assumption don't you think. I, for one, have hunted many birds and they have all been free roaming. Way to throw everyone under the bus based on the action of a few...rgambs said:
Hahaha bird hunting...like where you buy birds and starve, dehydrate, and shake the fuck out of them so they cant get too far, then turn your dogs loose and blast the half-dead birds out of the sky..and then don't bother eating them because they are full of shot...usamamasan1 said:I want to go bird hunting.
That's not hunting, that's homicidal masturbation!
You can get a high from nature by hiking and taking photos. You don't need to go kill something to achieve those objectives. That rationale you offered is weak.
Your last statement is judgemental. Let me be judgemental: I think you enjoy killing things more than you enjoy charity work. I think you enjoy snuffing the life of a living creature with your gun and donating your extra kills doesn't change that fact. Be honest... you're not undergoing the hunt for anything other than yourself.
Edit: I do fish purely for the enjoyment of fishing...pure relaxing entertainment. Do you consider fishing as a form hunting? If so, I guess I'm guilty there.
"Now go trim your man nun"
Seriously???
I suppose then it would be appropriate to tell you to go trim your mullet."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Hahaha I wanted to go with a toothless joke but I could find any that had any bite to them, brush your tooth is brilliant lolThirty Bills Unpaid said:
Not to mention 'brush his tooth'.rgambs said:
That's either a lie, or you are the only hunter in the world who can honestly say that.PJPOWER said:
Oh, I do plenty of that too (hiking and taking photos). Wildlife photography would probably fit into my top 5 list of passions. I am a sociologist/biologist and have the degree to back up that claim. And I am being honest, I hunt for many reasons, but "snuffing the life out of a living creature with a gun" is not one of those. In fact, I have saved the lives of a handful of deer that were either stuck in a fence or antler locked. I try to be as self-sufficient as possible and garden and can food, etc. I see reliance as weakness. You seem like exactly the type of person that I see as uneducated and pitiful. Now go trim your "man" bun.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I grew up hunting. I don't do it anymore, but don't begrudge any hunter for doing it provided they are hunting for the right reasons.PJPOWER said:
I do mostly agree, although I can understand how "hunts" like that could be useful if someone is trying to train their birddog. Usually those types of hunts are paid for by "city boys" that have no other options. I always laughed at the ones that bragged about "limiting out" on released birds, but as long as they're being legal about it and it keeps them from poaching on my land I'm all for it! On another positive point for hunting; this year I bagged four deer. Butchered two for myself and donated the other two to feed the less fortunate. Total costs: hunting license-$35. Processing fees for the ones that I kept- $0 (got my own setup). The two that I donated-$60 processing fees/deer. So for roughly $150 I have enough meat to last about a year and have fed numorous others! That's what hunting is all about for me and the mentality shared by most other true hunters. On top of that, you gain some humbleness, solidarity to reflect on life and other things while surrounded by nature, and a high amount of respect for the food that is on the table. I give little regard to "anti-hunters" and usually just label them as uneducated and pitiful.rgambs said:
Well if you don't hunt like that you aren't under the bus and you shouldn't be offended. You should agree, that isn't hunting at all.PJPOWER said:
That's a pretty broad assumption don't you think. I, for one, have hunted many birds and they have all been free roaming. Way to throw everyone under the bus based on the action of a few...rgambs said:
Hahaha bird hunting...like where you buy birds and starve, dehydrate, and shake the fuck out of them so they cant get too far, then turn your dogs loose and blast the half-dead birds out of the sky..and then don't bother eating them because they are full of shot...usamamasan1 said:I want to go bird hunting.
That's not hunting, that's homicidal masturbation!
You can get a high from nature by hiking and taking photos. You don't need to go kill something to achieve those objectives. That rationale you offered is weak.
Your last statement is judgemental. Let me be judgemental: I think you enjoy killing things more than you enjoy charity work. I think you enjoy snuffing the life of a living creature with your gun and donating your extra kills doesn't change that fact. Be honest... you're not undergoing the hunt for anything other than yourself.
Edit: I do fish purely for the enjoyment of fishing...pure relaxing entertainment. Do you consider fishing as a form hunting? If so, I guess I'm guilty there.
"Now go trim your man nun"
Seriously???
I suppose then it would be appropriate to tell you to go trim your mullet.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
As for your question... it depends. Do you catch and release? If you are fishing strictly for 'pure relaxing entertainment'... I would assume so. If you are fishing for the food and for 'pure relaxing entertainment'... this would be a form of hunting. I'm not opposed to either.PJPOWER said:
Oh, I do plenty of that too (hiking and taking photos). Wildlife photography would probably fit into my top 5 list of passions. I am a sociologist/biologist and have the degree to back up that claim. And I am being honest, I hunt for many reasons, but "snuffing the life out of a living creature with a gun" is not one of those. In fact, I have saved the lives of a handful of deer that were either stuck in a fence or antler locked. I try to be as self-sufficient as possible and garden and can food, etc. I see reliance as weakness. You seem like exactly the type of person that I see as uneducated and pitiful. Now go trim your "man" bun.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I grew up hunting. I don't do it anymore, but don't begrudge any hunter for doing it provided they are hunting for the right reasons.PJPOWER said:
I do mostly agree, although I can understand how "hunts" like that could be useful if someone is trying to train their birddog. Usually those types of hunts are paid for by "city boys" that have no other options. I always laughed at the ones that bragged about "limiting out" on released birds, but as long as they're being legal about it and it keeps them from poaching on my land I'm all for it! On another positive point for hunting; this year I bagged four deer. Butchered two for myself and donated the other two to feed the less fortunate. Total costs: hunting license-$35. Processing fees for the ones that I kept- $0 (got my own setup). The two that I donated-$60 processing fees/deer. So for roughly $150 I have enough meat to last about a year and have fed numorous others! That's what hunting is all about for me and the mentality shared by most other true hunters. On top of that, you gain some humbleness, solidarity to reflect on life and other things while surrounded by nature, and a high amount of respect for the food that is on the table. I give little regard to "anti-hunters" and usually just label them as uneducated and pitiful.rgambs said:
Well if you don't hunt like that you aren't under the bus and you shouldn't be offended. You should agree, that isn't hunting at all.PJPOWER said:
That's a pretty broad assumption don't you think. I, for one, have hunted many birds and they have all been free roaming. Way to throw everyone under the bus based on the action of a few...rgambs said:
Hahaha bird hunting...like where you buy birds and starve, dehydrate, and shake the fuck out of them so they cant get too far, then turn your dogs loose and blast the half-dead birds out of the sky..and then don't bother eating them because they are full of shot...usamamasan1 said:I want to go bird hunting.
That's not hunting, that's homicidal masturbation!
You can get a high from nature by hiking and taking photos. You don't need to go kill something to achieve those objectives. That rationale you offered is weak.
Your last statement is judgemental. Let me be judgemental: I think you enjoy killing things more than you enjoy charity work. I think you enjoy snuffing the life of a living creature with your gun and donating your extra kills doesn't change that fact. Be honest... you're not undergoing the hunt for anything other than yourself.
Edit: I do fish purely for the enjoyment of fishing...pure relaxing entertainment. Do you consider fishing as a form hunting? If so, I guess I'm guilty there.
Where did you get a sociology/biology degree? I've honestly never heard of such a degree. What's kind of weird is those are two fields are not the most compatible subject areas I could think of."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
hahargambs said:
Hahaha I wanted to go with a toothless joke but I could find any that had any bite to them, brush your tooth is brilliant lolThirty Bills Unpaid said:
Not to mention 'brush his tooth'.rgambs said:
That's either a lie, or you are the only hunter in the world who can honestly say that.PJPOWER said:
Oh, I do plenty of that too (hiking and taking photos). Wildlife photography would probably fit into my top 5 list of passions. I am a sociologist/biologist and have the degree to back up that claim. And I am being honest, I hunt for many reasons, but "snuffing the life out of a living creature with a gun" is not one of those. In fact, I have saved the lives of a handful of deer that were either stuck in a fence or antler locked. I try to be as self-sufficient as possible and garden and can food, etc. I see reliance as weakness. You seem like exactly the type of person that I see as uneducated and pitiful. Now go trim your "man" bun.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I grew up hunting. I don't do it anymore, but don't begrudge any hunter for doing it provided they are hunting for the right reasons.PJPOWER said:
I do mostly agree, although I can understand how "hunts" like that could be useful if someone is trying to train their birddog. Usually those types of hunts are paid for by "city boys" that have no other options. I always laughed at the ones that bragged about "limiting out" on released birds, but as long as they're being legal about it and it keeps them from poaching on my land I'm all for it! On another positive point for hunting; this year I bagged four deer. Butchered two for myself and donated the other two to feed the less fortunate. Total costs: hunting license-$35. Processing fees for the ones that I kept- $0 (got my own setup). The two that I donated-$60 processing fees/deer. So for roughly $150 I have enough meat to last about a year and have fed numorous others! That's what hunting is all about for me and the mentality shared by most other true hunters. On top of that, you gain some humbleness, solidarity to reflect on life and other things while surrounded by nature, and a high amount of respect for the food that is on the table. I give little regard to "anti-hunters" and usually just label them as uneducated and pitiful.rgambs said:
Well if you don't hunt like that you aren't under the bus and you shouldn't be offended. You should agree, that isn't hunting at all.PJPOWER said:
That's a pretty broad assumption don't you think. I, for one, have hunted many birds and they have all been free roaming. Way to throw everyone under the bus based on the action of a few...rgambs said:
Hahaha bird hunting...like where you buy birds and starve, dehydrate, and shake the fuck out of them so they cant get too far, then turn your dogs loose and blast the half-dead birds out of the sky..and then don't bother eating them because they are full of shot...usamamasan1 said:I want to go bird hunting.
That's not hunting, that's homicidal masturbation!
You can get a high from nature by hiking and taking photos. You don't need to go kill something to achieve those objectives. That rationale you offered is weak.
Your last statement is judgemental. Let me be judgemental: I think you enjoy killing things more than you enjoy charity work. I think you enjoy snuffing the life of a living creature with your gun and donating your extra kills doesn't change that fact. Be honest... you're not undergoing the hunt for anything other than yourself.
Edit: I do fish purely for the enjoyment of fishing...pure relaxing entertainment. Do you consider fishing as a form hunting? If so, I guess I'm guilty there.
"Now go trim your man nun"
Seriously???
I suppose then it would be appropriate to tell you to go trim your mullet.
I reckon we better git now, hyuk hyuk."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
but Mr. Bloomberg I cant afford 12 former Mossad agents to guard my daughter while she rides her 20 million dollar horsey collection.0
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