Sean Penn's 'interview' with El Chapo

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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    callen said:

    I would say Sean Penn is the left equivalent of Clint Eastwood.

    Ah cept penn is smart. And mostly on correct side of issues.

    Just see a lot of envy and jealousy.
    Absolutely. That was more of a downplay in response to the Kirk Cameron/Ted Nugent comment. Eastwood is a great man, well respected in Hollywood (and beyond), just a little narrow-minded when it comes to political views. Like Sean Penn, I really like Eastwood as an actor & director. I might not agree with everything he stands for, but I'm not going to have this vigilant stance against him and called him a douche or piece of shit or any of the other descriptors that have been thrown at Sean Penn in this thread.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    callen said:

    I would say Sean Penn is the left equivalent of Clint Eastwood.

    Ah cept penn is smart. And mostly on correct side of issues.

    Just see a lot of envy and jealousy.
    ?? Clint Eastwood is brilliant. Yeah, his politics are very old man and right wing, but he's incredibly smart.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,507
    PJ_Soul said:

    callen said:

    I would say Sean Penn is the left equivalent of Clint Eastwood.

    Ah cept penn is smart. And mostly on correct side of issues.

    Just see a lot of envy and jealousy.
    ?? Clint Eastwood is brilliant. Yeah, his politics are very old man and right wing, but he's incredibly smart.
    I'm not saying he's not, but how could you possibly know how smart he is?

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692

    PJ_Soul said:

    callen said:

    I would say Sean Penn is the left equivalent of Clint Eastwood.

    Ah cept penn is smart. And mostly on correct side of issues.

    Just see a lot of envy and jealousy.
    ?? Clint Eastwood is brilliant. Yeah, his politics are very old man and right wing, but he's incredibly smart.
    I'm not saying he's not, but how could you possibly know how smart he is?

    Because a person has to be smart to do what he does the way he does it, of course.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,507
    a person can be good at their art without being brilliant. in my opinion.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841

    a person can be good at their art without being brilliant. in my opinion.

    Exhibit A

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    edited January 2016

    a person can be good at their art without being brilliant. in my opinion.

    Sure, to a point I guess, but I don't think that applies to Clint Eastwood. Eastwood has, IMO, demonstrated that he has an pretty extraordinary mind. I don't understand why anyone would think he's not smart. I am pretty surprised to see anyone debating it. Do you think he's not smart?? If so, why? What has he done to suggest that?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,507
    PJ_Soul said:

    a person can be good at their art without being brilliant. in my opinion.

    Sure, to a point I guess, but I don't think that applies to Clint Eastwood. Eastwood has, IMO, demonstrated that he has an pretty extraordinary mind. I don't understand why anyone would think he's not smart. I am pretty surprised to see anyone debating it. Do you think he's not smart?? If so, why? What has he done to suggest that?
    I didn't say I didn't think he wasn't smart. I have no clue if he is or not. you stated it was "obvious" that he is "brilliant". I don't think it's obvious at all. I think he can be brilliant at his art, but be a guy who talks to an empty chair in real life.

    I think it's obvious that Stephen Hawkin and Neil de grasse Tyson are brilliant. But Eastwood? haven't heard anything brilliant (intellectually) out of him as of yet.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    edited January 2016

    PJ_Soul said:

    a person can be good at their art without being brilliant. in my opinion.

    Sure, to a point I guess, but I don't think that applies to Clint Eastwood. Eastwood has, IMO, demonstrated that he has an pretty extraordinary mind. I don't understand why anyone would think he's not smart. I am pretty surprised to see anyone debating it. Do you think he's not smart?? If so, why? What has he done to suggest that?
    I didn't say I didn't think he wasn't smart. I have no clue if he is or not. you stated it was "obvious" that he is "brilliant". I don't think it's obvious at all. I think he can be brilliant at his art, but be a guy who talks to an empty chair in real life.

    I think it's obvious that Stephen Hawkin and Neil de grasse Tyson are brilliant. But Eastwood? haven't heard anything brilliant (intellectually) out of him as of yet.

    Okay. I think it's really really obvious, lol. Sounds like you don't know as much about him as I do maybe?? I just don't understand how anyone could know what he's done and then say, "well, that doesn't mean he's smart." Doesn't make sense.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,507
    smart and brilliant are different words. smart? sure, I mean, he probably is. but you stated he is BRILLIANT.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692

    smart and brilliant are different words. smart? sure, I mean, he probably is. but you stated he is BRILLIANT.

    I stated that he is both brilliant AND smart, actually. Yes, he's brilliant. He's Clint Eastwood for crying out loud, lol.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    He did have a conversation with a empty chair...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    edited January 2016

    He did have a conversation with a empty chair...

    Brilliant, smart people can still do dumb shit.
    That chair conversation was cringe-worthy for sure.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Leave Clint alone :angry:
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    edited January 2016
    hedonist said:

    Leave Clint alone :angry:

    Yeah. :angry::lol:

    One weird thing about him: He looks EXACTLY like my dad now. They didn't look the same when they were both younger, but now that they're old, they could be twins! Slightly disturbing for me, actually, given that I have had a massive crush on Clint Eastwood all my life. :fearful:
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  • Clint has mostly awful movies with some great hits.
    Keeps him relevant though.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692

    Clint has mostly awful movies with some great hits.
    Keeps him relevant though.

    I'd reverse that. He has mostly good movies with a handful of stinkers, IMO.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    PJ_Soul said:

    Clint has mostly awful movies with some great hits.
    Keeps him relevant though.

    I'd reverse that. He has mostly good movies with a handful of stinkers, IMO.
    Agreed. And I too admit to the long-time crush.

    (thank goodness he bore no resemblance to my dad)

    Had coffee with him at a golf/tennis place when I was around 15/16. Over the moon doesn't begin to describe how I felt!
  • Well since I rarely go off topic let's get back to Penn.
    Not sure would call him a journalist but am quite sure a movie or Netflix thing is coming out and will be good.
    Hey OP thanks for the AMT thread!