Sean Penn's 'interview' with El Chapo

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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    PJ_Soul said:

    It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
    The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
    The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

    By giving Guzman last say in the article he is serving as a mouth piece for a scumbag
    Oh, pooh, lol. You're over thinking it IMO.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
    The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

    By giving Guzman last say in the article he is serving as a mouth piece for a scumbag
    Oh, pooh, lol. You're over thinking it IMO.
    Not at all. You don't see anything wrong with telling the public a story that a man responsible for thousands of murders wants told? There's a reason he didn't go to anyone with dignity...
  • Enkidu
    Enkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    Larry Wilmore on Sean Penn tonight is amazing. Sorry, but I can't find a link yet.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
    The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

    By giving Guzman last say in the article he is serving as a mouth piece for a scumbag
    Oh, pooh, lol. You're over thinking it IMO.
    Not at all. You don't see anything wrong with telling the public a story that a man responsible for thousands of murders wants told? There's a reason he didn't go to anyone with dignity...
    So I guess we shouldn't tell stories about WW2 anymore?
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    rgambs said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
    The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

    By giving Guzman last say in the article he is serving as a mouth piece for a scumbag
    Oh, pooh, lol. You're over thinking it IMO.
    Not at all. You don't see anything wrong with telling the public a story that a man responsible for thousands of murders wants told? There's a reason he didn't go to anyone with dignity...
    So I guess we shouldn't tell stories about WW2 anymore?
    Stop it. Given your analogy, which I think is absurd, should a celebrity have tracked down Hitler and told the exact story he wanted told? Would you celebrated that?
  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893
    nothing is damaged cliffy
    he knows its over soon too
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Cliffy6745 said:

    rgambs said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
    The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

    By giving Guzman last say in the article he is serving as a mouth piece for a scumbag
    Oh, pooh, lol. You're over thinking it IMO.
    Not at all. You don't see anything wrong with telling the public a story that a man responsible for thousands of murders wants told? There's a reason he didn't go to anyone with dignity...
    So I guess we shouldn't tell stories about WW2 anymore?
    Stop it. Given your analogy, which I think is absurd, should a celebrity have tracked down Hitler and told the exact story he wanted told? Would you celebrated that?
    Absolutely! Love and knowledge are all that really matter in this life, the more, the better. If we had such information we would know so much more about what creates, drives, sustains, and destroys a man such as Hitler. That information is priceless.
    Censoring people because you don't like their behavior is not a mature, thoughtful action.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I think people are using preconceived opinions of Sean Penn to discredit him whenever they get a chance.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    rgambs said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    rgambs said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
    The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

    By giving Guzman last say in the article he is serving as a mouth piece for a scumbag
    Oh, pooh, lol. You're over thinking it IMO.
    Not at all. You don't see anything wrong with telling the public a story that a man responsible for thousands of murders wants told? There's a reason he didn't go to anyone with dignity...
    So I guess we shouldn't tell stories about WW2 anymore?
    Stop it. Given your analogy, which I think is absurd, should a celebrity have tracked down Hitler and told the exact story he wanted told? Would you celebrated that?
    Absolutely! Love and knowledge are all that really matter in this life, the more, the better. If we had such information we would know so much more about what creates, drives, sustains, and destroys a man such as Hitler. That information is priceless.
    Censoring people because you don't like their behavior is not a mature, thoughtful action.
    That is fair, but journalists get murdered by this guy for telling the truth. I'm just not down with a celebrity furthering his name by being a propaganda mouthpiece for a scumbag.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    edited January 2016
    rgambs said:

    I think people are using preconceived opinions of Sean Penn to discredit him whenever they get a chance.

    I think people give Sean Penn the benefit of the doubt because he is boys with a certain musician.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    edited January 2016
    rgambs said:

    I think people are using preconceived opinions of Sean Penn to discredit him whenever they get a chance.

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,314
    I sure as hell wouldn't want to be linked to the capture of the biggest drug kingpin in the world and the death and capture of his lieutenants.

    I don't think he took the potential risks as serious as he should have. These are guys that stitch peoples faces to soccer balls and hang them from bridges.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    No talk about how the article is also fucking terrible and offers almost no insight into the guy?
  • Enkidu
    Enkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    Finally found it - the Larry Wilmore thing. It's hilarious.

    http://www.salon.com/2016/01/12/wilmore_mocks_sean_penns_el_chapo_story_you_know_its_bad_when_fox_and_friends_is_questioning_your_journalistic_credibility/
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
    The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

    By giving Guzman last say in the article he is serving as a mouth piece for a scumbag
    Oh, pooh, lol. You're over thinking it IMO.
    Not at all. You don't see anything wrong with telling the public a story that a man responsible for thousands of murders wants told? There's a reason he didn't go to anyone with dignity...
    Sorry, that's ridiculous.
    Where were you when Netflix made a whole critically acclaimed series about Pablo Escobar? And I think the WW2 analogy is apt. How many documentaries about Hilter's life are there? And serial killers? And war lords. Stalin. Etc etc etc etc. This is no different.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,692
    rgambs said:

    I think people are using preconceived opinions of Sean Penn to discredit him whenever they get a chance.

    I totally agree.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
    The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

    By giving Guzman last say in the article he is serving as a mouth piece for a scumbag
    Oh, pooh, lol. You're over thinking it IMO.
    Not at all. You don't see anything wrong with telling the public a story that a man responsible for thousands of murders wants told? There's a reason he didn't go to anyone with dignity...
    Sorry, that's ridiculous.
    Where were you when Netflix made a whole critically acclaimed series about Pablo Escobar? And I think the WW2 analogy is apt. How many documentaries about Hilter's life are there? And serial killers? And war lords. Stalin. Etc etc etc etc. This is no different.
    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    It never occurred to me to be bothered by this, and I don't really get why anyone is. I think it's pretty fucking interesting thing to do, actually. I don't understand what is supposed to be douchey about it.
    The liberal Ted Nugent? Gimme a break. That's silly.

    By giving Guzman last say in the article he is serving as a mouth piece for a scumbag
    Oh, pooh, lol. You're over thinking it IMO.
    Not at all. You don't see anything wrong with telling the public a story that a man responsible for thousands of murders wants told? There's a reason he didn't go to anyone with dignity...
    Sorry, that's ridiculous.
    Where were you when Netflix made a whole critically acclaimed series about Pablo Escobar? And I think the WW2 analogy is apt. How many documentaries about Hilter's life are there? And serial killers? And war lords. Stalin. Etc etc etc etc. This is no different.
    Ummm, it is quite different. Stalin and Hitler do not have final say about the content of the documentaries. For the sake of this stupid analogy, if Hitler had final say on the content of a documentary about his life, would you take it seriously?

    Narcos is fucking awesome and is entertainment. This is supposed journalism, at its absolute worst.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Enkidu said:

    Finally found it - the Larry Wilmore thing. It's hilarious.

    http://www.salon.com/2016/01/12/wilmore_mocks_sean_penns_el_chapo_story_you_know_its_bad_when_fox_and_friends_is_questioning_your_journalistic_credibility/

    I laughed!
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    If Truman Capote gave Perry Edward Smith final say on "In Cold Blood", would the world consider it one of the great books of all time?

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