Hey Pearl Jam - Free the Avery's

Just thought it was an appropriate place to post. All the activism raised for the west Memphis three - we need your voice. I was in Wisconsin for PJ20 - drove 900 miles.... Justice in Wisconsin is necessary for these people. Also liked to say - find Teresa's killer!
If I knew where it was.....I WOULD TAKE YOU THERE! THERES MUCH MORE THAN THIS!
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  • Watch the documentary and read the articles. Inform yourselves at the least. I don't know why we are being silent.
    If I knew where it was.....I WOULD TAKE YOU THERE! THERES MUCH MORE THAN THIS!
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    Take this on over to the politcal forum. You'll get more discussion. Just hit 'edit' on this thread and move to A Moving Train.
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  • Patrick_Sea3
    Patrick_Sea3 West Seattle Posts: 935
    No
  • joseph33
    joseph33 Washington DC Posts: 1,341
    Great thread. I agree. Jumped on board with WM3,why not the Avery's?
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    there are two threads discussing it on AMT and AET.
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  • primussucks
    primussucks Posts: 2,365
    edited January 2016

    Watch the documentary and read the articles. Inform yourselves at the least. I don't know why we are being silent.

    Then you would agree to inform yourself about all of the facts in the case?? This documentary is a biased one side of the story film. It might as well have been done by that fat lard Michael Moore! Don't let a documentary made by Joe schmoe stir the ignorant masses! And don't allow these "film makers" to profit off this nonsense! Avery is exactly where he belongs! He's a sick sadistic piece of shit! This case is nothing like the wm3 case!
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    dankind said:

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    One of the biggest assholes on the planet
    I've met Rob

    DEGENERATE FUK

    This place is dead

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    dankind said:

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    One of the biggest assholes on the planet
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    This thread has seconds to live....
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  • No matter what I say I'm wrong. Sorry if it bothered you - BUT if you want my opinion there are DNA facts that clearly give doubt to their guilty verdicts. I believe the jury was mislead and I cannot stand by and not support a re-trial in a new venue. Civil rights were broken.
    If I knew where it was.....I WOULD TAKE YOU THERE! THERES MUCH MORE THAN THIS!
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462

    No matter what I say I'm wrong. Sorry if it bothered you - BUT if you want my opinion there are DNA facts that clearly give doubt to their guilty verdicts. I believe the jury was mislead and I cannot stand by and not support a re-trial in a new venue. Civil rights were broken.

    Several of us have already suggested going on over to AET or AMT forums to discuss this. You're going to get more discussion there than on the Porch. This will likely be moved by the mods, all you have to do is click the little sprocket to edit your thread's location and move it to AET or AMT. It's not difficult and you'll get what you are after in those forums.
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,606
    http://www.avclub.com/article/white-house-responds-making-murderer-petition-230436

    The White House responds to that Making A Murderer petition

    It looks like the White House has finally gotten around to watching Making A Murderer, because it has now responded to that petition we reported on a few days ago about asking President Obama to issue a pardon for Steven Avery and Brendan Dassey, the two people at the center of Netflix’s documentary series. The petition’s case for a pardon revolved solely around the evidence provided in Making A Murderer—despite recent reports that it left out a lot of key information, which is sort of a pun if you’ve seen the series—and it referred to the conviction of Avery and Dassey for the murder of Teresa Halbach as “a black mark on the justice system as a whole.” Unsurprisingly, given how much people keep talking about Making A Murderer, the petition managed to gather more than 129,700 signatures in only a few weeks.

    Unfortunately for those who signed the petition (and as predicted by people who are familiar with how the law works), the White House has announced that it actually can’t do anything about Avery and Dassey. The official response highlights the work President Obama has done to try and improve the United States’ criminal justice system and it offers some information on how pardons work, but the important bit is that “the President cannot pardon a state criminal offense.” Avery and Dassey were convicted by the state of Wisconsin, making them state prisoners, so Obama can’t pardon them. If the petition signers really want these pardons, then, they’ll have to work at the state level and appeal to the better nature of Wisconsin’s governor...so, yeah, good luck with that.

    That’s not all that’s going on in the world of Steven Avery-related stories, though. As reported by Deadline, Investigation Discovery has given in to the jealousy it must be feeling these days and announced a Steven Avery special of its own. Titled Front Page: The Steven Avery Story, it sounds like it will specifically highlight the information that was left out of Making A Murderer and “provide critical, crucial evidence and testimony that will answer many questions surrounding Steven Avery.” In other words, Investigation Discovery really wants all the people talking about Making A Murderer to watch this show, and then maybe they’ll also stick around and watch some other shows about murder.

    ...

    If the President of the USA can't do anything about this, the members of Pearl Jam can't do anything about it either.
  • I've got the post where it needs to be - Pearl Jam helped the WM3. I hope they hear and see that there site has people asking them to join the support. I know that you are all laughing. Pearl Jam gave and still gives me hope. As for the "guilty" I understand there is evidence missing and I understand the petition wasn't going to work. All I'm saying is let the men get a fair trial at the State Supreme Court. If that doesn't convince the jury then they must be guilty and it'll be the end.
    If I knew where it was.....I WOULD TAKE YOU THERE! THERES MUCH MORE THAN THIS!
  • I've got the post where it needs to be - Pearl Jam helped the WM3. I hope they hear and see that there site has people asking them to join the support. I know that you are all laughing. Pearl Jam gave and still gives me hope. As for the "guilty" I understand there is evidence missing and I understand the petition wasn't going to work. All I'm saying is let the men get a fair trial at the State Supreme Court. If that doesn't convince the jury then they must be guilty and it'll be the end.

    Feel free to post it where ever u want
    But as some other members said u get more attention and will have more talk with others in AET or AMT forums and not in porch
    Plus there are people at those forums,who read and posts with experience and law knowledge so u get a better specific talk about the whole
    The thing is the unjustice here and not if the band can or will help or not

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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    edited January 2016
    This is different

    The WM3 were innocent kids who were kind of zeroed in on because they were 'different' and wore rock shirts

    This is a misjustice. However, there are still questions surrounding the Avery(s) involvement with the murder (although IMO not even close to w/o reasonable doubt)... and Avery is also much less 'innocent' in the grand scheme of things than the WM3.


    Plus, this film has probably had 10,000x more influence than PJ/EV could have. No need for them to stick out their necks in this toxic situation.
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  • I appreciate your input Mayday - and agree that this has got a head of steam now due to the documentary. However I would add that the more powerful the person/band the likely hood of people listening would increase significantly. just hoping more will give there opinion
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  • ehbacon
    ehbacon Posts: 1,972
    I saw a piece on the local news in Green Bay today about how much evidence and testimony was left out of that documentary. The guy was definitely guilty, just made for good TV.
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  • What was the evidence - I heard what was released to good morning America from the ex DA of Manitiwoc County. Did they leave out DNA evidence in the garage, in averys house?
    If I knew where it was.....I WOULD TAKE YOU THERE! THERES MUCH MORE THAN THIS!