America's Gun Violence
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A RICH fscb is leading the polls.2-feign-reluctance said:When America gets off its ass and to the polls, things will change. The complacency of this country makes me sick. And a fucking stage clown bigot is leading political polls. An all time new low.
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Please...you brought up complicity. I am just pointing out your inconsistencies.dignin said:
I agree, not relevant at all, someone is trying to make it relevant. One track mind.jnimhaoileoin said:
Please don't start that shite up again! Clearly not relevant to this threaddignin said:
Oh? You really want to bring the BDS stuff up here? Still waiting for that evidenceBS44325 said:
Ahhh...so now you're ok with the concept of being complicit. Interesting.dignin said:
They are horrible, and complicit.Cliffy6745 said:
I'm thinking you are probably correct, that's not to say I don't think they aren't repulsive and horrible human beings.PJ_Soul said:
No, it isn't. I don't think I have ever seen an anti-abortionist here on the boards say anything like that, and I think only the fringe far-right think that. Yes, they exist, but they're fanaticals. Saying it happens quite a bit on the right is not fair.BS44325 said:
No actually...it isn't.Smellyman said:
That is actually said quite a bit by those on the right.BS44325 said:
It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.mcgruff10 said:
So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?Cliffy6745 said:
You are correct.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?Cliffy6745 said:Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.
We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.
I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.
(But I am thinking maybe Cliffy was just being emotional in reaction to yet another shooting and didn't mean what he said literally)0 -
It is absolutely relevant if you truly want to stop this.Cliffy6745 said:
Makes no difference who did it. The fact is 14 people will never take another breath because these jerkoffs had access to weapons designed to kill living beings.Shawshank said:I wonder how many are going to be disappointed when they find out it's not some group of redneck, toothless, gun toting, good ol' boys who did this?
Black, white, Muslim, Asian, Christian...all irrelevant.0 -
Except "the fucker last week" has not been shown to be religious.Shawshank said:If this was truly some radical group of muslim fanatics, and then with the fucker last week blowing away the people at the abortion clinic, this country should seriously consider cracking down hard on religious bullshit that gets spewed from the pulpit (regardless of the theology).
Why is it any different than yelling "fire" in a crowded theater? How can any of these groups be allowed to incite violence, yet we have to allow it due to "free speech". Fuck free speech when this is the outcome. You should not be allowed to create an environment with words and ridiculous rantings that brainwash gullable idiots into carrying out their dirty work for them.0 -
What do you want others to know about living in your country?mickeyrat said:
Whats this "we" shit? You dont live in this country.BS44325 said:
Well if your only concern is going after the gun lobby as opposed to the perpetrators and their ideology (whatever that might be) then attacks like these will always continue. As you said "we will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again".Cliffy6745 said:
On all of who? The gun lobby is directly responsible for thousands of deaths, regardless of the race/religion of these peopleBS44325 said:
If this was done by Islamists will you wish horrible horrible deaths on all of them as well?Cliffy6745 said:Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.
We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.
I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.
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>1 mass shooting (4 or more dead or injured) for every day so far this year.
I don't want your hunting rifles but, for gods sake, could we do some background checks and keep people on the terrorist watch list from buying guns?
it's all about the motherfucking NRA lobby and the politicians who lack the spine to say no.If I had known then what I know now...
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Last time I checked abortion was still legal. And I'm waiting for you BS to make a casual link to this and the BDS movement because one of the victims might happen to be Jewish.BS44325 said:
It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.mcgruff10 said:
So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?Cliffy6745 said:
You are correct.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?Cliffy6745 said:Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.
We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.
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Are you sure its political?imalive said:>1 mass shooting (4 or more dead or injured) for every day so far this year.
I don't want your hunting rifles but, for gods sake, could we do some background checks and keep people on the terrorist watch list from buying guns?
it's all about the motherfucking NRA lobby and the politicians who lack the spine to say no.
Seems the USA culture is steeped in guns.
Up here we aren't averse to guns just we would rather not have them part of our way of life.
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Do we know if any of the murderers were on a watch list? Why shout when you don't have the facts.imalive said:>1 mass shooting (4 or more dead or injured) for every day so far this year.
I don't want your hunting rifles but, for gods sake, could we do some background checks and keep people on the terrorist watch list from buying guns?
it's all about the motherfucking NRA lobby and the politicians who lack the spine to say no.0 -
Oh the hypocrisy, you just posted on the other thread that this was most likely Islamic terrorists.BS44325 said:
Do we know if any of the murderers were on a watch list? Why shout when you don't have the facts.imalive said:>1 mass shooting (4 or more dead or injured) for every day so far this year.
I don't want your hunting rifles but, for gods sake, could we do some background checks and keep people on the terrorist watch list from buying guns?
it's all about the motherfucking NRA lobby and the politicians who lack the spine to say no.
Or is that a fact?0 -
Unlike Bataclan it is to early to say why this particular place was targeted by Islamists. Early word is that it was a christmas party of some type but who knows yet. Right now it was an American and a Qatari citizen who are being named as the attackers.Halifax2TheMax said:
Last time I checked abortion was still legal. And I'm waiting for you BS to make a casual link to this and the BDS movement because one of the victims might happen to be Jewish.BS44325 said:
It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.mcgruff10 said:
So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?Cliffy6745 said:
You are correct.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?Cliffy6745 said:Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.
We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.
I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.0 -
The news is saying fact but zero discussion of whether suspects were on a watch list.dignin said:
Oh the hypocrisy, you just posted on the other thread that this was most likely Islamic terrorists.BS44325 said:
Do we know if any of the murderers were on a watch list? Why shout when you don't have the facts.imalive said:>1 mass shooting (4 or more dead or injured) for every day so far this year.
I don't want your hunting rifles but, for gods sake, could we do some background checks and keep people on the terrorist watch list from buying guns?
it's all about the motherfucking NRA lobby and the politicians who lack the spine to say no.
Or is that a fact?0 -
no, dude, I don't.....but is a fact that our politicians are scared to death of the the gun lobby....whose main goal is profit for gun manufacturers....sell anything, to anybody, anytime.BS44325 said:
Do we know if any of the murderers were on a watch list? Why shout when you don't have the facts.imalive said:>1 mass shooting (4 or more dead or injured) for every day so far this year.
I don't want your hunting rifles but, for gods sake, could we do some background checks and keep people on the terrorist watch list from buying guns?
it's all about the motherfucking NRA lobby and the politicians who lack the spine to say no.
If I had known then what I know now...
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VIC 07
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Please...you brought up complicity. I am just pointing out your inconsistencies.dignin said:
I agree, not relevant at all, someone is trying to make it relevant. One track mind.jnimhaoileoin said:
Please don't start that shite up again! Clearly not relevant to this threaddignin said:
Oh? You really want to bring the BDS stuff up here? Still waiting for that evidenceBS44325 said:
Ahhh...so now you're ok with the concept of being complicit. Interesting.dignin said:
They are horrible, and complicit.Cliffy6745 said:
I'm thinking you are probably correct, that's not to say I don't think they aren't repulsive and horrible human beings.PJ_Soul said:
No, it isn't. I don't think I have ever seen an anti-abortionist here on the boards say anything like that, and I think only the fringe far-right think that. Yes, they exist, but they're fanaticals. Saying it happens quite a bit on the right is not fair.BS44325 said:
No actually...it isn't.Smellyman said:
That is actually said quite a bit by those on the right.BS44325 said:
It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.mcgruff10 said:
So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?Cliffy6745 said:
You are correct.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?Cliffy6745 said:Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.
We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.
I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.
(But I am thinking maybe Cliffy was just being emotional in reaction to yet another shooting and didn't mean what he said literally)
Link?BS44325 said:
The news is saying fact but zero discussion of whether suspects were on a watch list.dignin said:
Oh the hypocrisy, you just posted on the other thread that this was most likely Islamic terrorists.BS44325 said:
Do we know if any of the murderers were on a watch list? Why shout when you don't have the facts.imalive said:>1 mass shooting (4 or more dead or injured) for every day so far this year.
I don't want your hunting rifles but, for gods sake, could we do some background checks and keep people on the terrorist watch list from buying guns?
it's all about the motherfucking NRA lobby and the politicians who lack the spine to say no.
Or is that a fact?
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No. Their goal is to protect the rights of citizens to defend themselves.imalive said:
no, dude, I don't.....but is a fact that our politicians are scared to death of the the gun lobby....whose main goal is profit for gun manufacturers....sell anything, to anybody, anytime.BS44325 said:
Do we know if any of the murderers were on a watch list? Why shout when you don't have the facts.imalive said:>1 mass shooting (4 or more dead or injured) for every day so far this year.
I don't want your hunting rifles but, for gods sake, could we do some background checks and keep people on the terrorist watch list from buying guns?
it's all about the motherfucking NRA lobby and the politicians who lack the spine to say no.0 -
You may or may not recall I never interjected with what Canada ought to do. I confined it to the nation I am citizen of and rightly have a say in.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
So one shouldn't be concerned?mickeyrat said:
Whats this "we" shit? You dont live in this country.BS44325 said:
Well if your only concern is going after the gun lobby as opposed to the perpetrators and their ideology (whatever that might be) then attacks like these will always continue. As you said "we will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again".Cliffy6745 said:
On all of who? The gun lobby is directly responsible for thousands of deaths, regardless of the race/religion of these peopleBS44325 said:
If this was done by Islamists will you wish horrible horrible deaths on all of them as well?Cliffy6745 said:Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.
We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.
I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.
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Stop it? There's a huge contingency of people who don't even want to confront it. The US has a serious issue with gun violence and nobody seems truly care. There will be lots of discussion about gun violence and finally a push to profile the shooter so people can distance themselves from them and deny culpability. If they're Muslim they become terrorists; if they're Christian they become 'lone gunmen' separate from the rest of society. It's strange that Muslims are expected to be responsible for their fringe members when they commit atrocities yet the rest of us are allowed to distance ourselves from the nut jobs that we produce.BS44325 said:
It is absolutely relevant if you truly want to stop this.Cliffy6745 said:
Makes no difference who did it. The fact is 14 people will never take another breath because these jerkoffs had access to weapons designed to kill living beings.Shawshank said:I wonder how many are going to be disappointed when they find out it's not some group of redneck, toothless, gun toting, good ol' boys who did this?
Black, white, Muslim, Asian, Christian...all irrelevant.
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Until you force the Biebs back home , all bets are off!!!!!PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Up here we kind of like to nip things.mickeyrat said:
Whats this "we" shit? You dont live in this country.BS44325 said:
Well if your only concern is going after the gun lobby as opposed to the perpetrators and their ideology (whatever that might be) then attacks like these will always continue. As you said "we will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again".Cliffy6745 said:
On all of who? The gun lobby is directly responsible for thousands of deaths, regardless of the race/religion of these peopleBS44325 said:
If this was done by Islamists will you wish horrible horrible deaths on all of them as well?Cliffy6745 said:Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.
We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.
I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.
Kind of like keeping that shit over in the east.
Keep that shit south please and deal with it.
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