Buenos Aires last night..

KC138045 · November 2015

InBetweenIsMne said:

North Americans have been lulled into complacency for the most part. People generally feel uncomfortable showing any kind of passion now (not that we'd show it in the same way as South Americans even if we did). It's really depressing. I usually feel let down by North American crowds. I love going to concerts of course, but 9 out of 10 times I feel like most of the crowd was fairly zombie-like (I'd say the usual demographic is about 15% passionate folks, 85% zombies. At a PJ show it might be more like 35/65 at best). It's sad.

73.47% of statistics are made up.

We haven't be lulled we've just gotten old. I'm all for showing excitement and singing along but for me two minutes of ole ole ole between songs would of gotten old quick.

xhausted1 · November 2015

PJ_Soul said:

nicknyr15 said:

SVRDhand13 said:
North America needs to step up their game!
Big time
North Americans have been lulled into complacency for the most part. People generally feel uncomfortable showing any kind of passion now (not that we'd show it in the same way as South Americans even if we did). It's really depressing. I usually feel let down by North American crowds. I love going to concerts of course, but 9 out of 10 times I feel like most of the crowd was fairly zombie-like (I'd say the usual demographic is about 15% passionate folks, 85% zombies. At a PJ show it might be more like 35/65 at best). It's sad.

It's been my experience, too. If you want passion at a show you have to go to the shows that the teenagers & young adults go to. I went to a Twenty One Pilots show with my teenager, and there was a ton of passion there. Took me back to the early days of a PJ concert! Miss that. Although, I always bring my passion to PJ shows! So much so that I almost feel I need to apologize to those next to me. Then I remember where I am. No apology!!!

PJ_Soul · November 2015

xhausted1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

nicknyr15 said:

SVRDhand13 said:
North America needs to step up their game!
Big time
North Americans have been lulled into complacency for the most part. People generally feel uncomfortable showing any kind of passion now (not that we'd show it in the same way as South Americans even if we did). It's really depressing. I usually feel let down by North American crowds. I love going to concerts of course, but 9 out of 10 times I feel like most of the crowd was fairly zombie-like (I'd say the usual demographic is about 15% passionate folks, 85% zombies. At a PJ show it might be more like 35/65 at best). It's sad.
It's been my experience, too. If you want passion at a show you have to go to the shows that the teenagers & young adults go to. I went to a Twenty One Pilots show with my teenager, and there was a ton of passion there. Took me back to the early days of a PJ concert! Miss that. Although, I always bring my passion to PJ shows! So much so that I almost feel I need to apologize to those next to me. Then I remember where I am. No apology!!!

It actually kind of proves that all the fears we had as young people about what happens to people when they "grow up" is true, more often than not.

"If he only knew now what he knew then."

bootlegger10 · November 2015

PJ_Soul said:

xhausted1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

nicknyr15 said:

SVRDhand13 said:
North America needs to step up their game!
Big time
North Americans have been lulled into complacency for the most part. People generally feel uncomfortable showing any kind of passion now (not that we'd show it in the same way as South Americans even if we did). It's really depressing. I usually feel let down by North American crowds. I love going to concerts of course, but 9 out of 10 times I feel like most of the crowd was fairly zombie-like (I'd say the usual demographic is about 15% passionate folks, 85% zombies. At a PJ show it might be more like 35/65 at best). It's sad.
It's been my experience, too. If you want passion at a show you have to go to the shows that the teenagers & young adults go to. I went to a Twenty One Pilots show with my teenager, and there was a ton of passion there. Took me back to the early days of a PJ concert! Miss that. Although, I always bring my passion to PJ shows! So much so that I almost feel I need to apologize to those next to me. Then I remember where I am. No apology!!!
It actually kind of proves that all the fears we had as young people about what happens to people when they "grow up" is true, more often than not.
"If he only knew now what he knew then."

And that necessarily isn't bad. Sometimes being tired or "old" later in life means you really lived it up when younger (i.e., bad knees because you played a lot of sports, etc...). I was in the pit in Buenos Aires right in front of Ed for about 8 songs. It was fun to experience but I didn't want to do that for 3 hours. One reason was to go back with my friends but also didn't feel like screwing up my knee or something getting pushed around for 2 hours.

PJ_Soul · November 2015

bootlegger10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

xhausted1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

nicknyr15 said:

SVRDhand13 said:
North America needs to step up their game!
Big time
North Americans have been lulled into complacency for the most part. People generally feel uncomfortable showing any kind of passion now (not that we'd show it in the same way as South Americans even if we did). It's really depressing. I usually feel let down by North American crowds. I love going to concerts of course, but 9 out of 10 times I feel like most of the crowd was fairly zombie-like (I'd say the usual demographic is about 15% passionate folks, 85% zombies. At a PJ show it might be more like 35/65 at best). It's sad.
It's been my experience, too. If you want passion at a show you have to go to the shows that the teenagers & young adults go to. I went to a Twenty One Pilots show with my teenager, and there was a ton of passion there. Took me back to the early days of a PJ concert! Miss that. Although, I always bring my passion to PJ shows! So much so that I almost feel I need to apologize to those next to me. Then I remember where I am. No apology!!!
It actually kind of proves that all the fears we had as young people about what happens to people when they "grow up" is true, more often than not.
"If he only knew now what he knew then."
And that necessarily isn't bad. Sometimes being tired or "old" later in life means you really lived it up when younger (i.e., bad knees because you played a lot of sports, etc...). I was in the pit in Buenos Aires right in front of Ed for about 8 songs. It was fun to experience but I didn't want to do that for 3 hours. One reason was to go back with my friends but also didn't feel like screwing up my knee or something getting pushed around for 2 hours.

You don't have to be mobile to express passion though. I think this is a psychological thing, not a physical thing. You don't need a mosh pit for a crowd to be passionate.

bootlegger10 · November 2015

PJ_Soul said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

xhausted1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

nicknyr15 said:

SVRDhand13 said:
North America needs to step up their game!
Big time
North Americans have been lulled into complacency for the most part. People generally feel uncomfortable showing any kind of passion now (not that we'd show it in the same way as South Americans even if we did). It's really depressing. I usually feel let down by North American crowds. I love going to concerts of course, but 9 out of 10 times I feel like most of the crowd was fairly zombie-like (I'd say the usual demographic is about 15% passionate folks, 85% zombies. At a PJ show it might be more like 35/65 at best). It's sad.
It's been my experience, too. If you want passion at a show you have to go to the shows that the teenagers & young adults go to. I went to a Twenty One Pilots show with my teenager, and there was a ton of passion there. Took me back to the early days of a PJ concert! Miss that. Although, I always bring my passion to PJ shows! So much so that I almost feel I need to apologize to those next to me. Then I remember where I am. No apology!!!
It actually kind of proves that all the fears we had as young people about what happens to people when they "grow up" is true, more often than not.
"If he only knew now what he knew then."
And that necessarily isn't bad. Sometimes being tired or "old" later in life means you really lived it up when younger (i.e., bad knees because you played a lot of sports, etc...). I was in the pit in Buenos Aires right in front of Ed for about 8 songs. It was fun to experience but I didn't want to do that for 3 hours. One reason was to go back with my friends but also didn't feel like screwing up my knee or something getting pushed around for 2 hours.
You don't have to be mobile to express passion though. I think this is a psychological thing, not a physical thing. You don't need a mosh pit for a crowd to be passionate.

I agree. I don't necessarily equate the mosh pit with passion for PJ. I think some people just want to go to a concert and mosh.