Learn from your Mistakes

Depends on if you equate knowledge with learning, I suppose. Need to be open to both...?

I do think some people willfully, maybe even subconsciously, refuse to learn. Refuse to open their eyes and/or mind.

Sometimes just the realization of "huh, I didn't know that" is enough. Goes through my mind frequently, that's for sure.

I think the real question is "can you understand"...it's easy just to memorize facts, but to actually understand something I believe has more power.

Ms. Haiku said:

When I feel pain I know I am alive. As I grow older there have been times when I valued pain because it meant that I was focused on the present.

So you learned about pain/attachment and you learned about failure/succeeding and you learned about attachment/now. Can that knowledge be unlearned but still a part of you?

As I grow older, I feel the opposite

I do get what you're saying, but does pain trump pleasure in terms of being in the moment, living it for better or worse, as it is?

This is an interesting perspective (though do believe, at least for myself, that both spectrums affect nerves, hormones, mind...self) - but your view is one I haven't considered, and deserving of more thought on my part.

Thank you.

Ms. Haiku said:

We learn from our mistakes and we learn from the mistakes of others - we are always in a state of learning. Do we ever have the opportunity to progress through life - to be aware of new information - but not learn it? I'm not suggesting that we remain ignorant, but I think "learn" has too much energy.

I just want to know something and move on. Must I learn it first?

You learn from mistakes, but you also learn from successes. But sometimes you were successful based on a different factor that you thought you learned, but were wrong about, so you refine what you learned from that success/failure too.

Learning, to me, is understanding the cause and effect of something and be able to successfully apply it elsewhere. Information can be acquired by our brains, but it won't always be learned and your brain wont then be able to apply it. Knowledge/facts can be acquired and known, but principles, processes, and concepts must be learned.

If you just know something (a fact) and move on, there is no chance for you to apply/correlate/refine that fact to another piece of knowledge that you also know and turn it into something you learned/better understood.

I don't see learning from mistakes as "that happened to me so I wont do that again" or "that happened to me so I will do it this way instead". I think its more like "that happened to me so next time I'll have better tools to move in a direction that is healthier or has better consequences". I don't see ever getting it all down just right. They say a poem is never finished or perfected but rather, it is abandoned. That's how life is too. You work at it as best you can until it is time to let go.

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

OP
If you were like me you wouldn't make any mistakes because you would know everything.
Seriously.






















It's hard to define in your life at what age you became learned.
At some point you will know and will share advice with others.

I think knowing that we're not learned is learning in itself. Like realizing you may know some shit, but really, you know shit.

If that shit makes sense.

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

hedonist said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

OP
If you were like me you wouldn't make any mistakes because you would know everything.
Seriously.






















It's hard to define in your life at what age you became learned.
At some point you will know and will share advice with others.

I think knowing that we're not learned is learning in itself. Like realizing you may know some shit, but really, you know shit.

If that shit makes sense.

I got shit.

I got memories.

I win

Id, ego, and superego - all (and shit) play a part.

I really don't think it's just a trite cliche that the more you know the more you know you don't know.

So-crates eh Ted?