America's Gun Violence
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I would expect money was gained through the use of these guns before being resold.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. Great point!!tempo_n_groove said:^ so the gun gets sold cheaper than the initial price through each sale then.
That's not very good business practices...
So tng how are you so sure you are able to get a 9mm for 200 as you stated above?_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Looks like my conjecture was off base.tempo_n_groove said:^ so the gun gets sold cheaper than the initial price through each sale then.
That's not very good business practices...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/frankminiter/2014/08/12/inside-the-black-market-for-guns/_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/guns/procon/guns.htmlmickeyrat said:
Looks like my conjecture was off base.tempo_n_groove said:^ so the gun gets sold cheaper than the initial price through each sale then.
That's not very good business practices...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/frankminiter/2014/08/12/inside-the-black-market-for-guns/_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
I didn't think this sounded correct, but I didn't have time for due diligence. According to the ATF they do sell for higher than retail. What state do you live in?tempo_n_groove said:
So a 9mm in the store costs $400 for a cheaper model. Let's say a Taurus.rgambs said:
I'm talking about the black market price.mcgruff10 said:
no they are not, this is completely wrong. The same ar-15 can be found pretty much at the same price across the nation. you can find them cheaper at cabela's or bass pro because they are a huge chain as compared to a mom and pop store. it's not like restrictive states add an extra tax on the sale of the gun like they do on cigarette purchases.rgambs said:
Where do you live? Guns are much cheaper in Gun permissive states than they are in restrictive states, so there is profit to be made.tempo_n_groove said:Question?
A "street gun" goes for far less than a gun over the counter so how are people making profits off these?
I can buy a 9mm off the streets way cheaper than in a store, way cheaper.
So how do gun dealers make money off these type of sales?
Just curious.
I can go down the street and purchase that gun for 100-250.
So who is making the profit if I initially paid for 400 and now have to sell for half that?
If the gun was stolen then it's all cash money but if sold by a gun dealer I'm not seeing that.
Please explain further.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
NY and notice I said a Taurus which is a mid level gun. That article said as little as 1-200 which is what I said for it.rgambs said:
I didn't think this sounded correct, but I didn't have time for due diligence. According to the ATF they do sell for higher than retail. What state do you live in?tempo_n_groove said:
So a 9mm in the store costs $400 for a cheaper model. Let's say a Taurus.rgambs said:
I'm talking about the black market price.mcgruff10 said:
no they are not, this is completely wrong. The same ar-15 can be found pretty much at the same price across the nation. you can find them cheaper at cabela's or bass pro because they are a huge chain as compared to a mom and pop store. it's not like restrictive states add an extra tax on the sale of the gun like they do on cigarette purchases.rgambs said:
Where do you live? Guns are much cheaper in Gun permissive states than they are in restrictive states, so there is profit to be made.tempo_n_groove said:Question?
A "street gun" goes for far less than a gun over the counter so how are people making profits off these?
I can buy a 9mm off the streets way cheaper than in a store, way cheaper.
So how do gun dealers make money off these type of sales?
Just curious.
I can go down the street and purchase that gun for 100-250.
So who is making the profit if I initially paid for 400 and now have to sell for half that?
If the gun was stolen then it's all cash money but if sold by a gun dealer I'm not seeing that.
Please explain further.
I'm bowing out of this conversation now.0 -
1-200 more than retail I believe it said.tempo_n_groove said:
NY and notice I said a Taurus which is a mid level gun. That article said as little as 1-200 which is what I said for it.rgambs said:
I didn't think this sounded correct, but I didn't have time for due diligence. According to the ATF they do sell for higher than retail. What state do you live in?tempo_n_groove said:
So a 9mm in the store costs $400 for a cheaper model. Let's say a Taurus.rgambs said:
I'm talking about the black market price.mcgruff10 said:
no they are not, this is completely wrong. The same ar-15 can be found pretty much at the same price across the nation. you can find them cheaper at cabela's or bass pro because they are a huge chain as compared to a mom and pop store. it's not like restrictive states add an extra tax on the sale of the gun like they do on cigarette purchases.rgambs said:
Where do you live? Guns are much cheaper in Gun permissive states than they are in restrictive states, so there is profit to be made.tempo_n_groove said:Question?
A "street gun" goes for far less than a gun over the counter so how are people making profits off these?
I can buy a 9mm off the streets way cheaper than in a store, way cheaper.
So how do gun dealers make money off these type of sales?
Just curious.
I can go down the street and purchase that gun for 100-250.
So who is making the profit if I initially paid for 400 and now have to sell for half that?
If the gun was stolen then it's all cash money but if sold by a gun dealer I'm not seeing that.
Please explain further.
I'm bowing out of this conversation now.
Stick around, there's always more to learn and teach.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
you are a smart man. I shall bow out too...dirty hit me up to shoot when you eventually find new jersey on a map.tempo_n_groove said:
NY and notice I said a Taurus which is a mid level gun. That article said as little as 1-200 which is what I said for it.rgambs said:
I didn't think this sounded correct, but I didn't have time for due diligence. According to the ATF they do sell for higher than retail. What state do you live in?tempo_n_groove said:
So a 9mm in the store costs $400 for a cheaper model. Let's say a Taurus.rgambs said:
I'm talking about the black market price.mcgruff10 said:
no they are not, this is completely wrong. The same ar-15 can be found pretty much at the same price across the nation. you can find them cheaper at cabela's or bass pro because they are a huge chain as compared to a mom and pop store. it's not like restrictive states add an extra tax on the sale of the gun like they do on cigarette purchases.rgambs said:
Where do you live? Guns are much cheaper in Gun permissive states than they are in restrictive states, so there is profit to be made.tempo_n_groove said:Question?
A "street gun" goes for far less than a gun over the counter so how are people making profits off these?
I can buy a 9mm off the streets way cheaper than in a store, way cheaper.
So how do gun dealers make money off these type of sales?
Just curious.
I can go down the street and purchase that gun for 100-250.
So who is making the profit if I initially paid for 400 and now have to sell for half that?
If the gun was stolen then it's all cash money but if sold by a gun dealer I'm not seeing that.
Please explain further.
I'm bowing out of this conversation now.
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Yep. I read that wrong.rgambs said:
1-200 more than retail I believe it said.tempo_n_groove said:
NY and notice I said a Taurus which is a mid level gun. That article said as little as 1-200 which is what I said for it.rgambs said:
I didn't think this sounded correct, but I didn't have time for due diligence. According to the ATF they do sell for higher than retail. What state do you live in?tempo_n_groove said:
So a 9mm in the store costs $400 for a cheaper model. Let's say a Taurus.rgambs said:
I'm talking about the black market price.mcgruff10 said:
no they are not, this is completely wrong. The same ar-15 can be found pretty much at the same price across the nation. you can find them cheaper at cabela's or bass pro because they are a huge chain as compared to a mom and pop store. it's not like restrictive states add an extra tax on the sale of the gun like they do on cigarette purchases.rgambs said:
Where do you live? Guns are much cheaper in Gun permissive states than they are in restrictive states, so there is profit to be made.tempo_n_groove said:Question?
A "street gun" goes for far less than a gun over the counter so how are people making profits off these?
I can buy a 9mm off the streets way cheaper than in a store, way cheaper.
So how do gun dealers make money off these type of sales?
Just curious.
I can go down the street and purchase that gun for 100-250.
So who is making the profit if I initially paid for 400 and now have to sell for half that?
If the gun was stolen then it's all cash money but if sold by a gun dealer I'm not seeing that.
Please explain further.
I'm bowing out of this conversation now.
Stick around, there's always more to learn and teach.
Still only 1-200 for a gun. Come to NY. I'll teach you what can't be read in an article, lol.
Now I'm off to talk about stickers.
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i freaking love stickers. the mature hobby!tempo_n_groove said:
Yep. I read that wrong.rgambs said:
1-200 more than retail I believe it said.tempo_n_groove said:
NY and notice I said a Taurus which is a mid level gun. That article said as little as 1-200 which is what I said for it.rgambs said:
I didn't think this sounded correct, but I didn't have time for due diligence. According to the ATF they do sell for higher than retail. What state do you live in?tempo_n_groove said:
So a 9mm in the store costs $400 for a cheaper model. Let's say a Taurus.rgambs said:
I'm talking about the black market price.mcgruff10 said:
no they are not, this is completely wrong. The same ar-15 can be found pretty much at the same price across the nation. you can find them cheaper at cabela's or bass pro because they are a huge chain as compared to a mom and pop store. it's not like restrictive states add an extra tax on the sale of the gun like they do on cigarette purchases.rgambs said:
Where do you live? Guns are much cheaper in Gun permissive states than they are in restrictive states, so there is profit to be made.tempo_n_groove said:Question?
A "street gun" goes for far less than a gun over the counter so how are people making profits off these?
I can buy a 9mm off the streets way cheaper than in a store, way cheaper.
So how do gun dealers make money off these type of sales?
Just curious.
I can go down the street and purchase that gun for 100-250.
So who is making the profit if I initially paid for 400 and now have to sell for half that?
If the gun was stolen then it's all cash money but if sold by a gun dealer I'm not seeing that.
Please explain further.
I'm bowing out of this conversation now.
Stick around, there's always more to learn and teach.
Still only 1-200 for a gun. Come to NY. I'll teach you what can't be read in an article, lol.
Now I'm off to talk about stickers.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Geez I just realized what myself and every other pj fan should be buying for obvious reasons: the ruger 10/22!!!!! I think I m gonna get one tomorrow!I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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Good call! That's my go-to recommendation for someone looking for their first rifle. Really, every legal gun owner should have one. Accurate, reliable, lots of aftermarket options and cheap to shoot. They still scare the anti-gunners, though. It doesn't matter that it's just a. 22lr, it's semi-automatic so it's an assault weapon meant to kill everything in its path.
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22 is very deadly! How does it load? I'm assuming it is a clip?dudeman said:Good call! That's my go-to recommendation for someone looking for their first rifle. Really, every legal gun owner should have one. Accurate, reliable, lots of aftermarket options and cheap to shoot. They still scare the anti-gunners, though. It doesn't matter that it's just a. 22lr, it's semi-automatic so it's an assault weapon meant to kill everything in its path.
Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
No, it loads from a magazine. Factory mags hold 10 rounds but larger capacity mags are available.
Actually, there might be models that come stock with 25 round magazines now.If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV0 -
dudeman said:
Good call! That's my go-to recommendation for someone looking for their first rifle. Really, every legal gun owner should have one. Accurate, reliable, lots of aftermarket options and cheap to shoot. They still scare the anti-gunners, though. It doesn't matter that it's just a. 22lr, it's semi-automatic so it's an assault weapon meant to kill everything in its path.
I already have a semi auto .22 lr but I m thinking with five kids I need another. The ruger 10/22 stands the test of time. I m going for it.dudeman said:Good call! That's my go-to recommendation for someone looking for their first rifle. Really, every legal gun owner should have one. Accurate, reliable, lots of aftermarket options and cheap to shoot. They still scare the anti-gunners, though. It doesn't matter that it's just a. 22lr, it's semi-automatic so it's an assault weapon meant to kill everything in its path.
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Are you serious? Yeah you could definitely kill someone with it but get real. Show me some stories involving mass murders and .22's.rgambs said:
22 is very deadly! How does it load? I'm assuming it is a clip?dudeman said:Good call! That's my go-to recommendation for someone looking for their first rifle. Really, every legal gun owner should have one. Accurate, reliable, lots of aftermarket options and cheap to shoot. They still scare the anti-gunners, though. It doesn't matter that it's just a. 22lr, it's semi-automatic so it's an assault weapon meant to kill everything in its path.
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
They're extra deadly to squirrels and rabbits.If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV0
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Wasn't a 22 handgun a good tossable hit job weapon? Even one person killed is horrific.mcgruff10 said:
Are you serious? Yeah you could definitely kill someone with it but get real. Show me some stories involving mass murders and .22's.rgambs said:
22 is very deadly! How does it load? I'm assuming it is a clip?dudeman said:Good call! That's my go-to recommendation for someone looking for their first rifle. Really, every legal gun owner should have one. Accurate, reliable, lots of aftermarket options and cheap to shoot. They still scare the anti-gunners, though. It doesn't matter that it's just a. 22lr, it's semi-automatic so it's an assault weapon meant to kill everything in its path.
Do you guys mind starting your own thread about this little tangential sidebar you are engaged in?_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
Sure. I guess if you're not on the "guns are all evil" bandwagon you're not welcome here.
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Topic is gun violence. As much a human failing as the means from that failing.dudeman said:Sure. I guess if you're not on the "guns are all evil" bandwagon you're not welcome here.
I swore an oath in the navy. That hasn't changed.
I asked respectfully and without judgement. Please respect that and thread integrity. It isnt too much to ask._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
Not at all. But it does seem rather inappropriate to discuss what you're discussing in a thread that is about gun violence. Quite distasteful.dudeman said:Sure. I guess if you're not on the "guns are all evil" bandwagon you're not welcome here.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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