Irritating Office Behavior

HughFreakingDillon · October 2015

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RK, your boss sounds like she's about 15 emotionally. I can't understand employers who want to get into your private life that much. I'd have probably bailed a long time ago.

yes, she's had a few meltdowns/temper tantrums. I am hoping she mellows out now that there is another person there. I stick around because doubt I could find another job that pays as well and is as flexible.

I've been treated worse.

she reminds me of Rachel's boss from Friends. the one who got hit by a truck and died (and dated Chandler).

Who Princess · October 2015

RKCNDY said:

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RK, your boss sounds like she's about 15 emotionally. I can't understand employers who want to get into your private life that much. I'd have probably bailed a long time ago.

yes, she's had a few meltdowns/temper tantrums. I am hoping she mellows out now that there is another person there. I stick around because doubt I could find another job that pays as well and is as flexible.

I've been treated worse.

Having that perspective is helpful. After some of the bosses/work situations I've had, I can roll with most things.

PJ_Soul · October 2015

HughFreakingDillon said:

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ldent42 said:

Who Princess said:
At their cube. When a supervisor isn't around. To respond to Ident, I wouldn't have imagined it either. I guess it's pointless to wonder if they've ever heard of the concept of work ethic or even owing your employer 8 hours of work a day.
And I mean how disrespectful is that to the rest of your coworkers too!?! Even if you work 100% independently where no one is picking up anyone else's slack, it's still unbelievably rude.
It absolutely boggles my mind. And I feel like such an old fart saying so, but it's very young employees doing it.
Generation Me is incredibly lazy and self-serving.

I'm not sure that's fair. There are several people that age in my office, and they are all really great employees. Sounds to me more like the person doing the hiring is the one with the real problem. There are plenty of young people out there who aren't like that. WP's boss just doesn't seem to know how to tell the difference.
well of course it's just a mass generalization, but the point is, this current generation has been brought up having a lot of things in life done for them by their parents (the helicopter parents). are every single one of them like this? of course not. but my wife hires a lot from this generation, some are great, but she finds many are just clueless that the boss's job is not to accomodate their every whim. she has actually dealt with parents of employees calling her to set up doctor appointments for time off, etc. my HR department has dealt with parents asking if they can attend the interview, etc. it's bizarre.

Well for sure. I work at a university, so deal with people of this age daily, and have for years, so it's been interesting to see how people have changed over the years, and it is definitely the relationship with their parents that is the most obvious thing (second is that they seem to think that rules don't apply to them). The parents are definitely generally more involved until an older age now, which I think is ridiculous. Shame on the parents. I think my point was more that yes, there are plenty of young people who have been rendered fairly useless by their dumb-ass parents now, but that doesn't mean people have to hire them. Somehow, employers need to figure out ways to distinguish between the ones who think it's reasonable to nap at their desk and have their mommies bring their lunch to them at work, and the ones who are self-sufficient and responsible. There are enough of the second group for a savvy hiring manager to be able to pick and choose.

HughFreakingDillon · October 2015

PJ_Soul said:

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HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Who Princess said:

ldent42 said:

Who Princess said:
At their cube. When a supervisor isn't around. To respond to Ident, I wouldn't have imagined it either. I guess it's pointless to wonder if they've ever heard of the concept of work ethic or even owing your employer 8 hours of work a day.
And I mean how disrespectful is that to the rest of your coworkers too!?! Even if you work 100% independently where no one is picking up anyone else's slack, it's still unbelievably rude.
It absolutely boggles my mind. And I feel like such an old fart saying so, but it's very young employees doing it.
Generation Me is incredibly lazy and self-serving.

I'm not sure that's fair. There are several people that age in my office, and they are all really great employees. Sounds to me more like the person doing the hiring is the one with the real problem. There are plenty of young people out there who aren't like that. WP's boss just doesn't seem to know how to tell the difference.
well of course it's just a mass generalization, but the point is, this current generation has been brought up having a lot of things in life done for them by their parents (the helicopter parents). are every single one of them like this? of course not. but my wife hires a lot from this generation, some are great, but she finds many are just clueless that the boss's job is not to accomodate their every whim. she has actually dealt with parents of employees calling her to set up doctor appointments for time off, etc. my HR department has dealt with parents asking if they can attend the interview, etc. it's bizarre.

Well for sure. I work at a university, so deal with people of this age daily, and have for years, so it's been interesting to see how people have changed over the years, and it is definitely the relationship with their parents that is the most obvious thing (second is that they seem to think that rules don't apply to them). The parents are definitely generally more involved until an older age now, which I think is ridiculous. Shame on the parents. I think my point was more that yes, there are plenty of young people who have been rendered fairly useless by their dumb-ass parents now, but that doesn't mean people have to hire them. Somehow, employers need to figure out ways to distinguish between the ones who think it's reasonable to nap at their desk and have their mommies bring their lunch to them at work, and the ones who are self-sufficient and responsible. There are enough of the second group for a savvy hiring manager to be able to pick and choose.

not necessarily. in certain industries, good help is indeed hard to come by.

PJ_Soul · October 2015

HughFreakingDillon said:

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PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Who Princess said:

ldent42 said:

Who Princess said:
At their cube. When a supervisor isn't around. To respond to Ident, I wouldn't have imagined it either. I guess it's pointless to wonder if they've ever heard of the concept of work ethic or even owing your employer 8 hours of work a day.
And I mean how disrespectful is that to the rest of your coworkers too!?! Even if you work 100% independently where no one is picking up anyone else's slack, it's still unbelievably rude.
It absolutely boggles my mind. And I feel like such an old fart saying so, but it's very young employees doing it.
Generation Me is incredibly lazy and self-serving.

I'm not sure that's fair. There are several people that age in my office, and they are all really great employees. Sounds to me more like the person doing the hiring is the one with the real problem. There are plenty of young people out there who aren't like that. WP's boss just doesn't seem to know how to tell the difference.
well of course it's just a mass generalization, but the point is, this current generation has been brought up having a lot of things in life done for them by their parents (the helicopter parents). are every single one of them like this? of course not. but my wife hires a lot from this generation, some are great, but she finds many are just clueless that the boss's job is not to accomodate their every whim. she has actually dealt with parents of employees calling her to set up doctor appointments for time off, etc. my HR department has dealt with parents asking if they can attend the interview, etc. it's bizarre.

Well for sure. I work at a university, so deal with people of this age daily, and have for years, so it's been interesting to see how people have changed over the years, and it is definitely the relationship with their parents that is the most obvious thing (second is that they seem to think that rules don't apply to them). The parents are definitely generally more involved until an older age now, which I think is ridiculous. Shame on the parents. I think my point was more that yes, there are plenty of young people who have been rendered fairly useless by their dumb-ass parents now, but that doesn't mean people have to hire them. Somehow, employers need to figure out ways to distinguish between the ones who think it's reasonable to nap at their desk and have their mommies bring their lunch to them at work, and the ones who are self-sufficient and responsible. There are enough of the second group for a savvy hiring manager to be able to pick and choose.
not necessarily. in certain industries, good help is indeed hard to come by.

So at least hire shitty employees over the age of 30 to avoid these particular issues? All I see happening now is managers hiring these young wusses and actually bending to their way of thinking. These people wouldn't act like that if the managers found a way to make it impossible. But instead, there are now courses on how managers can learn how to coddle these people. Not kidding. It's insane.

hedonist · October 2015

HughFreakingDillon said:

not necessarily. in certain industries, good help is indeed hard to come by.

Agree with this, though the industry I'm in (real estate) just requires some smarts, basic skills, and a willingness to learn and pay some dues in the process.

Having an applicant's parent get involved would be a HUGE red flag for me. Glad I'm not in charge of hiring here. We've gone through a few so far who just didn't want or were unable to get it.

Shit, I went to my first interview at 17 and nailed it.

HughFreakingDillon · October 2015

PJ_Soul said:

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HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Who Princess said:

ldent42 said:

Who Princess said:
At their cube. When a supervisor isn't around. To respond to Ident, I wouldn't have imagined it either. I guess it's pointless to wonder if they've ever heard of the concept of work ethic or even owing your employer 8 hours of work a day.
And I mean how disrespectful is that to the rest of your coworkers too!?! Even if you work 100% independently where no one is picking up anyone else's slack, it's still unbelievably rude.
It absolutely boggles my mind. And I feel like such an old fart saying so, but it's very young employees doing it.
Generation Me is incredibly lazy and self-serving.

I'm not sure that's fair. There are several people that age in my office, and they are all really great employees. Sounds to me more like the person doing the hiring is the one with the real problem. There are plenty of young people out there who aren't like that. WP's boss just doesn't seem to know how to tell the difference.
well of course it's just a mass generalization, but the point is, this current generation has been brought up having a lot of things in life done for them by their parents (the helicopter parents). are every single one of them like this? of course not. but my wife hires a lot from this generation, some are great, but she finds many are just clueless that the boss's job is not to accomodate their every whim. she has actually dealt with parents of employees calling her to set up doctor appointments for time off, etc. my HR department has dealt with parents asking if they can attend the interview, etc. it's bizarre.

Well for sure. I work at a university, so deal with people of this age daily, and have for years, so it's been interesting to see how people have changed over the years, and it is definitely the relationship with their parents that is the most obvious thing (second is that they seem to think that rules don't apply to them). The parents are definitely generally more involved until an older age now, which I think is ridiculous. Shame on the parents. I think my point was more that yes, there are plenty of young people who have been rendered fairly useless by their dumb-ass parents now, but that doesn't mean people have to hire them. Somehow, employers need to figure out ways to distinguish between the ones who think it's reasonable to nap at their desk and have their mommies bring their lunch to them at work, and the ones who are self-sufficient and responsible. There are enough of the second group for a savvy hiring manager to be able to pick and choose.
not necessarily. in certain industries, good help is indeed hard to come by.

So at least hire shitty employees over the age of 30 to avoid these particular issues? All I see happening now is managers hiring these young wusses and actually bending to their way of thinking. These people wouldn't act like that if the managers found a way to make it impossible. But instead, there are now courses on how managers can learn how to coddle these people. Not kidding. It's insane.

my wife doesn't bend to them if they turn out to be that way. she gets rid of them.

PJ_Soul · October 2015

HughFreakingDillon said:

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PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Who Princess said:

ldent42 said:

Who Princess said:
At their cube. When a supervisor isn't around. To respond to Ident, I wouldn't have imagined it either. I guess it's pointless to wonder if they've ever heard of the concept of work ethic or even owing your employer 8 hours of work a day.
And I mean how disrespectful is that to the rest of your coworkers too!?! Even if you work 100% independently where no one is picking up anyone else's slack, it's still unbelievably rude.
It absolutely boggles my mind. And I feel like such an old fart saying so, but it's very young employees doing it.
Generation Me is incredibly lazy and self-serving.

I'm not sure that's fair. There are several people that age in my office, and they are all really great employees. Sounds to me more like the person doing the hiring is the one with the real problem. There are plenty of young people out there who aren't like that. WP's boss just doesn't seem to know how to tell the difference.
well of course it's just a mass generalization, but the point is, this current generation has been brought up having a lot of things in life done for them by their parents (the helicopter parents). are every single one of them like this? of course not. but my wife hires a lot from this generation, some are great, but she finds many are just clueless that the boss's job is not to accomodate their every whim. she has actually dealt with parents of employees calling her to set up doctor appointments for time off, etc. my HR department has dealt with parents asking if they can attend the interview, etc. it's bizarre.

Well for sure. I work at a university, so deal with people of this age daily, and have for years, so it's been interesting to see how people have changed over the years, and it is definitely the relationship with their parents that is the most obvious thing (second is that they seem to think that rules don't apply to them). The parents are definitely generally more involved until an older age now, which I think is ridiculous. Shame on the parents. I think my point was more that yes, there are plenty of young people who have been rendered fairly useless by their dumb-ass parents now, but that doesn't mean people have to hire them. Somehow, employers need to figure out ways to distinguish between the ones who think it's reasonable to nap at their desk and have their mommies bring their lunch to them at work, and the ones who are self-sufficient and responsible. There are enough of the second group for a savvy hiring manager to be able to pick and choose.
not necessarily. in certain industries, good help is indeed hard to come by.

So at least hire shitty employees over the age of 30 to avoid these particular issues? All I see happening now is managers hiring these young wusses and actually bending to their way of thinking. These people wouldn't act like that if the managers found a way to make it impossible. But instead, there are now courses on how managers can learn how to coddle these people. Not kidding. It's insane.
my wife doesn't bend to them if they turn out to be that way. she gets rid of them.

Okay. Same diff then. Don't hire them or fire them.

Sprunkn7 · October 2015

We went through 5 people in our office to fill a job. One was so bad but my boss knew her father and didn't want to fire her. Out of a year she came to work on time 3 mornings, in a YEAR. She sucked at the job and did not get along with any of us. She didn't show up to our holiday dinner near Christmas and he told us he was finally getting rid of her. It was the best Christmas present I got last year!!!

SVRDhand13 · October 2015

Notices of a cancelled meeting at a time when most people in the meeting are already on their way!

iluvcats · November 2015

Sprunkn7 said:
My coworker (and friend) eats Chobani yogurt everyday. To me it smells...bad. I can smell it when she opens it and I'm all the way down the hall....That means a good 1/2 hour till I go near her desk. Any other Greek yogurt, fine fine fine...Chobani peeeeee uuuuu.

I agree with you, a guy that I worked with lit up his whole office with blueberry Chobani. It did smell sour, but he least he didn't expel flatulence, drink out of my tea or cut his finger nails. Before people could be sneaky at work and text from their phone to their friends without anyone hearing, my coworker talked on the phone when our boss went to meetings and I could hear her obnoxious laugh....then we had to share an office and I had to hear it from 2 feet away.

iluvcats · November 2015

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People who force friendships...
Or try to. This is probably one of the very worst of the irritating office behaviours for me because the person often ends up being so fucking awkward about it when you reject their attempts because you're just not feeling it. I can't believe how many new people try to force a friendship. I don't mean being friendly and talking and enjoying working with one another (I'm pretty social at work generally). I'm talking being there 3 days and suddenly inviting you to their house to meet their family and have dinner, where they start talking about going on weekend trips together, lol. Too much too soon!!! If you get into that too fast and realize you're just not meant to be friends outside of work, it is SO hard to get out of that relationship. I have actually had to "friend dump" people who I have to continue working with because of their unrelenting quest to be BEST friends by the end of their first week on the job. It's awful.
and that is my boss...she sat me down for a 'talk'. "You need to open up more to me, you can be a real hard ass about sharing personal information. The other day when I was asking you about what you were doing, it sounded like you were annoyed by my questions, you need to trust me, I want to be your friend, you have all my information, and you can ruin me, you need to be my friend"

uh, WTF am I supposed to say to that? The questions she was asking had nothing to do with her or my job. I don't willy-nilly share personal information because um...IT'S PERSONAL. She had tried to hire a friend of hers to work and they ended up having a huge blowout after the first week her friend worked...I guess she didn't learn anything.

RKCNDY, you are a very patient woman to work for such a nosey psycho. I'm surprised she's not in trouble for her inappropriate behavior.

HesCalledDyer · November 2015

You know what really irritates me... That my coworkers have to be coerced with incentives to do their fucking jobs. Um, shouldn't employment, a paycheck, and benefits be your fucking incentive? Apparently not. We have to do stupid shit like "If you sign up X number of customers for e-billing, you'll get a $25 gift card every month." Uhh, how about if you don't sign up X number of customers, you get a shitty performance review because you're not doing your god damn job, and when it's time for raises you won't get one. THAT SHOULD BE YOUR MOTIFUCKINGVATION TO DO YOUR SHIT.

ldent42 · November 2015

HesCalledDyer said:
You know what really irritates me... That my coworkers have to be coerced with incentives to do their fucking jobs. Um, shouldn't employment, a paycheck, and benefits be your fucking incentive? Apparently not. We have to do stupid shit like "If you sign up X number of customers for e-billing, you'll get a $25 gift card every month." Uhh, how about if you don't sign up X number of customers, you get a shitty performance review because you're not doing your god damn job, and when it's time for raises you won't get one. THAT SHOULD BE YOUR MOTIFUCKINGVATION TO DO YOUR SHIT.

AMEN!

I don't disagree with performance incentives - especially if it encourages competition, ie the employee that signs the most customers for e-billing gets a $100 bonus every quarter! But not this participation trophy crap.

RKCNDY · November 2015

I hate that shit...when I worked at a major department store, we had to get so many people to sign up for the credit card each quarter...some people don't want to. Some people don't want to sign up for the free club card-they get offended when you keep pushing it.

I went to go buy a portable tv once, and the guy kept pushing the credit card, and pushing the extended warranty, I kept telling him 'no, I have the cash to pay for it now, can I get a cash discount?' Pushed the credit card for the 6th time, so I said, 'I don't want the credit card, and now I don't want the tv' and walked away.

At the cell phone company, it was easier...businesses throw money around like it's nothing, really depends on whose call you get. I got one guy that wanted to activate 75 phones and get everybody a car charger, case and headset. I won 'highest accessory sale add-ons' for the month...I didn't even try to sell him anything, "want a car charger? Or headset?" "yeah, gimmie a car charger and headset for everybody...you got cases? I want one of those for everybody too"
Or sometimes you get the cheap people, they don't want anything, but you still have to ask, it's part of the script we were given.

PJ_Soul · November 2015

ldent42 said:

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HesCalledDyer said:
You know what really irritates me... That my coworkers have to be coerced with incentives to do their fucking jobs. Um, shouldn't employment, a paycheck, and benefits be your fucking incentive? Apparently not. We have to do stupid shit like "If you sign up X number of customers for e-billing, you'll get a $25 gift card every month." Uhh, how about if you don't sign up X number of customers, you get a shitty performance review because you're not doing your god damn job, and when it's time for raises you won't get one. THAT SHOULD BE YOUR MOTIFUCKINGVATION TO DO YOUR SHIT.
AMEN!

I don't disagree with performance incentives - especially if it encourages competition, ie the employee that signs the most customers for e-billing gets a $100 bonus every quarter! But not this participation trophy crap.

From what I've read, monetary and competitive incentives do not actually create better, happier, more inspired employees (creating an atmosphere of competition seems to be more harmful than helpful). Goal oriented initiatives are apparently much more effective. Coaching, mentoring, a professional and personal development, shared accountability, and focusing on strengths rather than weaknesses supposedly works much better when trying to inspire employees to excel.

HesCalledDyer · November 2015

If you are given a group of papers that are stapled together and you need to add something to it, why is it soooooooooooooooo fucking difficult to remove the original staple and re-staple everything together as one?

Every. Fucking. Time. I'm handed something with 3 or 4 god damn staples on various pages of a stack, I seriously want to just take all the extraneous staples I remove from the pile and scratch peoples' fucking eyeballs with them. That is the god damn epitome of laziness! It takes ~3 fucking seconds.

Sprunkn7 · November 2015

HesCalledDyer said:
If you are given a group of papers that are stapled together and you need to add something to it, why is it soooooooooooooooo fucking difficult to remove the original staple and re-staple everything together as one?

Every. Fucking. Time. I'm handed something with 3 or 4 god damn staples on various pages of a stack, I seriously want to just take all the extraneous staples I remove from the pile and scratch peoples' fucking eyeballs with them. That is the god damn epitome of laziness! It takes ~3 fucking seconds.

HAHAHA...

Went to the kitchen for my lunch and there are paper towels on the roll. Just the empty tube. I know who it is,,,laziness!!!!

HughFreakingDillon · November 2015

HesCalledDyer said:
If you are given a group of papers that are stapled together and you need to add something to it, why is it soooooooooooooooo fucking difficult to remove the original staple and re-staple everything together as one?

Every. Fucking. Time. I'm handed something with 3 or 4 god damn staples on various pages of a stack, I seriously want to just take all the extraneous staples I remove from the pile and scratch peoples' fucking eyeballs with them. That is the god damn epitome of laziness! It takes ~3 fucking seconds.

I thought I was just being anal about this. there is one department that has usually about 7-10 staples in each pile, all in different sections of the pile (not just the first page) every single time it comes to me. it drives me nuts.

ldent42 · November 2015

HesCalledDyer said:
If you are given a group of papers that are stapled together and you need to add something to it, why is it soooooooooooooooo fucking difficult to remove the original staple and re-staple everything together as one?

Every. Fucking. Time. I'm handed something with 3 or 4 god damn staples on various pages of a stack, I seriously want to just take all the extraneous staples I remove from the pile and scratch peoples' fucking eyeballs with them. That is the god damn epitome of laziness! It takes ~3 fucking seconds.

Because someone keeps stealing my staple remover!

Sprunkn7 said:

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HesCalledDyer said:
If you are given a group of papers that are stapled together and you need to add something to it, why is it soooooooooooooooo fucking difficult to remove the original staple and re-staple everything together as one?

Every. Fucking. Time. I'm handed something with 3 or 4 god damn staples on various pages of a stack, I seriously want to just take all the extraneous staples I remove from the pile and scratch peoples' fucking eyeballs with them. That is the god damn epitome of laziness! It takes ~3 fucking seconds.
HAHAHA...

Went to the kitchen for my lunch and there are paper towels on the roll. Just the empty tube. I know who it is,,,laziness!!!!

We had a huge problem with that in the ladies bathroom - someone was leaving the empty toilet paper tube and not bringing in a new roll. It was a small office too, no cleaning staff. Every single woman had to do the penguin shuffle at one point out another to the closetto get TP.

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