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  • Wow, that acceptance speech last night was some kind of awful. 4 years of international embarrassment, here we come.

    Impressed with my fellow countrymen and women in the voter turnout. 68% is a whopping turnout for an election in Canada.

    Learned a little about Turdo Tit Twister Tax today by looking online. Seems he is creating a fourth tax bracket. If you earn more than $200,000 you will pay 33% more on anything over that amount.
    So, it means in some provinces when you combine it with provincial tax you may be paying more than HALF your income to the government in income tax alone on anything over $200,000.

    All to save someone who makes $89,000 a year a grand total of $670 dollars.

    According to 2011 statistics, the top 1% of wage earners in Canada made north of $191,000 dollars.

    Having said all this, it would not bother me to pay more taxes if the money was going to be used to build this infrastructure Turdo says we need. However he is going to run deficits for the next three years. Ahhhh the legacy of his "great father"

    In 1968, when Trudeau went from rich, socialist professor who had never held a real job in his life to prime minister, Canada's national debt was a modest $11.3 billion; the federal deficit was zero. When Trudeau left office in 1984, the debt had mushroomed to $128 billion; the deficit to $25 billion annually. But this was just the beginning.

    Canada's Great Helmsman created a vast bureaucracy, and massive welfare programs to buy votes for his Liberal Party. He restricted trade and free markets, imposing confiscatory taxes.


    Ahhhh the institutional elite, always telling us they know better. I only hope Junior doesn't throw us into the same vapid wasteland I grew up in. Anyone remember the 80s or early 90s? All a result of that pompous asshole. Something tells me the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

    :no_mouth:
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
  • ^^^^^

    Yeah they all meant a lot to me when I was making $5.70 an hour slinging Pizza.
    I mean, I was so elated about bilingualism when I lived on pizza because I barely made enough to pay the rent.
    It was just awesome to have a Charter of Rights and Freedoms (not signed by Quebec YET) when I barely had a pot to piss in around 1991.
    The "constitution act" of PET was an amendment and called the Charter of Rights and Freedoms "anyone?". I am SURE you are aware as GREAT a man that PET was he was not alive in 1867 when the Constituion Act was signed?

    Multiculturalism, well, he certainly gave us that didn't he. Or did he?
    Historically accurate people would note the National Bill of Rights, passed by Diefenbaker's Tories in 1960 was the beginning of Canada's inclusivity.

    The Canadian Bill of Rights protects numerous rights, most of which were later included in the Charter. Examples include:

    Freedom of speech in Canada and freedom of religion in Canada (now in Section 2 of the Charter)
    equality rights (more complete rights are contained in Section 15 of the Charter)
    The right to life, liberty and security of the person, and in another section, rights to fundamental justice (the Charter combines those rights in Section 7)
    The right to enjoyment of property, which is not enshrined in the Charter
    The right to counsel (now in Section 10 of the Charter).

    PET just ammended the constitution. These wheels were already in motion.
    Trudeau revisionists always make me laugh, he was the WORST PM in history, period.

    :no_mouth:
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
  • ^^^^^
    Your "zip it" emoji isn't working and isn't going to work. The CHARTER you and your forum members love so much gives me my freedom of speech and thought :smiley:
    Or is it that you just don't like a good old history lesson?

    I am so happy I was able to become successful under the run of Chrétien (Paul Martin A great finance minister) and Harper, because we are in for a bumpy ride.
    Luckily I have invested wisely and can weather the storm of the next four years.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    The sky is falling. The sky is falling. The sky is falling.
  • ^^^^^^

    Nope, Mulclueless didn't win :smiley:
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056

    Wow, that acceptance speech last night was some kind of awful. 4 years of international embarrassment, here we come.

    Impressed with my fellow countrymen and women in the voter turnout. 68% is a whopping turnout for an election in Canada.

    Learned a little about Turdo Tit Twister Tax today by looking online. Seems he is creating a fourth tax bracket. If you earn more than $200,000 you will pay 33% more on anything over that amount.
    So, it means in some provinces when you combine it with provincial tax you may be paying more than HALF your income to the government in income tax alone on anything over $200,000.

    All to save someone who makes $89,000 a year a grand total of $670 dollars.

    According to 2011 statistics, the top 1% of wage earners in Canada made north of $191,000 dollars.

    Having said all this, it would not bother me to pay more taxes if the money was going to be used to build this infrastructure Turdo says we need. However he is going to run deficits for the next three years. Ahhhh the legacy of his "great father"

    In 1968, when Trudeau went from rich, socialist professor who had never held a real job in his life to prime minister, Canada's national debt was a modest $11.3 billion; the federal deficit was zero. When Trudeau left office in 1984, the debt had mushroomed to $128 billion; the deficit to $25 billion annually. But this was just the beginning.

    Canada's Great Helmsman created a vast bureaucracy, and massive welfare programs to buy votes for his Liberal Party. He restricted trade and free markets, imposing confiscatory taxes.


    Ahhhh the institutional elite, always telling us they know better. I only hope Junior doesn't throw us into the same vapid wasteland I grew up in. Anyone remember the 80s or early 90s? All a result of that pompous asshole. Something tells me the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/1970/01/eric-margolis/trudeau-canadas-great-helmsman/

    ^^^^^

    Yeah they all meant a lot to me when I was making $5.70 an hour slinging Pizza.
    I mean, I was so elated about bilingualism when I lived on pizza because I barely made enough to pay the rent.
    It was just awesome to have a Charter of Rights and Freedoms (not signed by Quebec YET) when I barely had a pot to piss in around 1991.
    The "constitution act" of PET was an amendment and called the Charter of Rights and Freedoms "anyone?". I am SURE you are aware as GREAT a man that PET was he was not alive in 1867 when the Constituion Act was signed?

    Multiculturalism, well, he certainly gave us that didn't he. Or did he?
    Historically accurate people would note the National Bill of Rights, passed by Diefenbaker's Tories in 1960 was the beginning of Canada's inclusivity.

    The Canadian Bill of Rights protects numerous rights, most of which were later included in the Charter. Examples include:

    Freedom of speech in Canada and freedom of religion in Canada (now in Section 2 of the Charter)
    equality rights (more complete rights are contained in Section 15 of the Charter)
    The right to life, liberty and security of the person, and in another section, rights to fundamental justice (the Charter combines those rights in Section 7)
    The right to enjoyment of property, which is not enshrined in the Charter
    The right to counsel (now in Section 10 of the Charter).


    PET just ammended the constitution. These wheels were already in motion.
    Trudeau revisionists always make me laugh, he was the WORST PM in history, period.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Bill_of_Rights


    It's called plagiarism when you copy other people's writings without referencing the source. A person could forgive wiki since it's just a list...but a 15 year old Eric fucking Margolis article? weak sauce.


  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    PJ_Soul said:


    Also, I think Trudeau's youth is VERY appealing,

    VERY appealing, indeed
    image

    I'll show myself out.

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,458

    ^^^^^

    Yeah they all meant a lot to me when I was making $5.70 an hour slinging Pizza.
    I mean, I was so elated about bilingualism when I lived on pizza because I barely made enough to pay the rent.
    It was just awesome to have a Charter of Rights and Freedoms (not signed by Quebec YET) when I barely had a pot to piss in around 1991.
    The "constitution act" of PET was an amendment and called the Charter of Rights and Freedoms "anyone?". I am SURE you are aware as GREAT a man that PET was he was not alive in 1867 when the Constituion Act was signed?

    Multiculturalism, well, he certainly gave us that didn't he. Or did he?
    Historically accurate people would note the National Bill of Rights, passed by Diefenbaker's Tories in 1960 was the beginning of Canada's inclusivity.

    The Canadian Bill of Rights protects numerous rights, most of which were later included in the Charter. Examples include:

    Freedom of speech in Canada and freedom of religion in Canada (now in Section 2 of the Charter)
    equality rights (more complete rights are contained in Section 15 of the Charter)
    The right to life, liberty and security of the person, and in another section, rights to fundamental justice (the Charter combines those rights in Section 7)
    The right to enjoyment of property, which is not enshrined in the Charter
    The right to counsel (now in Section 10 of the Charter).

    PET just ammended the constitution. These wheels were already in motion.
    Trudeau revisionists always make me laugh, he was the WORST PM in history, period.

    so you can pick and choose what is great about a PM and what is not based on how it affected YOU and not the country at the time?

    no revisions here. he has been highly criticized for his economic policy. he is a polarizing figure to be sure. however, the worst PM in history is LAUGHABLE. most historians and scholars consider him to have been one of the BEST.

    this just shows you are here to argue and troll rather than discuss. feel free to make some childish comment about my wife now.

    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,294
    Fool of a Took! All of you!

    How could you not elect Wyatt Scott as your new king ...
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    ldent42 said:

    PJ_Soul said:


    Also, I think Trudeau's youth is VERY appealing,

    VERY appealing, indeed
    image

    I'll show myself out.

    :lol: Well, his good looks are a whole other matter, apparently! I will admit that, now that I see all this international attention over how "hot" Canada's new PM is (something I honestly hadn't really considered before; I knew he was attractive, but it just didn't register with me that people would actually get all excited about it, hahaha), I have to admit that it's a very nice change after having to look at Harper's cold and icy stare for the past decade! :tongue:
    (that said, that photo on the right is a bit weird-looking. Kind of reminds me of Sylvester Stallone)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • TalonTedd
    TalonTedd Toronto Posts: 835

    his youth may be appealing, but his inexperience may work against him a bit. Harper probably had a good amount of respect amongst other world leaders, and Trudeau may be seen as Pierre's "kid". He may have to do some sizable things to overcome this perception.

    He will
    First combat ends in the middle east and peace keeping and humanitarianism returns to Ottawa.
    Next we all get to get really high! On our own home grown stuff because legalization seems imminent.
    Then we get to redirect all that wasted taxpayer money spent on policing, prosecuting and incarcerating people who simply like to get high on pot, and maybe more.
    Then, the scientific method gets put back where it belongs, guiding political decision making, not hocus pocus bullcrap conservative dogma!

    Justin is exactly what America needs right now. a glimpse at what progressive open-minded political leaders will and must do to have any hope of stopping humanities perpetual slide down a self inflicted abyss.
    I remember when, yeah. I swore I knew everything, oh yeah.
  • TalonTedd said:

    his youth may be appealing, but his inexperience may work against him a bit. Harper probably had a good amount of respect amongst other world leaders, and Trudeau may be seen as Pierre's "kid". He may have to do some sizable things to overcome this perception.

    He will
    First combat ends in the middle east and peace keeping and humanitarianism returns to Ottawa.
    Next we all get to get really high! On our own home grown stuff because legalization seems imminent.
    Then we get to redirect all that wasted taxpayer money spent on policing, prosecuting and incarcerating people who simply like to get high on pot, and maybe more.
    Then, the scientific method gets put back where it belongs, guiding political decision making, not hocus pocus bullcrap conservative dogma!

    Justin is exactly what America needs right now. a glimpse at what progressive open-minded political leaders will and must do to have any hope of stopping humanities perpetual slide down a self inflicted abyss.
    Now that is the best sarcastic post about turdo I have ever read :rofl:
  • It was interesting to watch Peter Mansbridge on election night visibly hold his dismay as to what was happening. Much like this interview http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bruce-heyman-u-s-ambassador-isis-mission-1.3282732
    The American ambassador politely holding his tongue and Mansbridge suggesting turdo was "not Canadas pick I swear"!
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited October 2015
    I always loved Eric Margolis :smiley:

    I'm just trying to fit in around here! I'm actually starting to like the plagiarism. I see that most here just posts links, but take the time to read the material and gather key points. I guess I got add footnotes and whatnot, but at least it won't upset people for caring about how the government affect ME because as a good little socialist, I should be worried about the state.

    Oh Hugh, I'm really to busy with my own wife to worry about yours. And old Turdy Bills there, not real preoccupied with his either.
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited October 2015
    Well, it's really been a slice! Now that the election is over, I really don't (can't) care for the next four years. Let it all play out.

    I've got to get ready to head to South America in a couple weeks. It's one of the ways I spoil myself. Most of you think I'm an asshole, and I don't blame you :lol:
    Politics is like sports to me, I'm the trash talker. The one who gets you off your game. Sometimes I'm saying what I believe. Sometimes it's pure horseshit.
    This may seem like a cop out but I can assure you, it is all too real. 99 out of 100 of you would meet me in real life and we would get along. That's the way It's always been :smile: I show up on game day and I'll always bring it.

    I don't really belong in any one political ideology, I'm just really tired of constantly paying more taxes. Who isn't?

    The remainder of this post is unprovoked (not worried about the white flagger or whatever you call it) , just telling it like it is.

    Truly, if I offended anyone I am terribly sorry. I had some fun. When you talk trash. You are always walking the line. Sometimes you cross it and concuss the quarterback. So to tirdy bills dere, I was really joking around about "drilling for oil". I mean, I'm in love with the most beautiful woman I have ever met (and she laughed at that post btw) and have no desire for any other carbon based life form.

    Despite all this, I do care about the direction of Canada. Cheers eh! I'll be one of those flag waving Canucks in the pit in Santiago and BA, handing out Canadian pins, making friends, swilling wine.
    No hard feelings on this side anyways. Cmon, forgive and forget, that's the Canadian way. :wink:
    Post edited by 1ThoughtKnown on
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited October 2015
    So it seems pretty official - Canada ending bombing campaign in Syria, and redirecting efforts towards more humanitarian goals there.
    I support this. That's more what Canada is about. It's nice to see it back.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited October 2015

    Cmon, forgive and forget, that's the Canadian way.

    That is true.
    10c way is different.
    Doesn't matter where you reside don't be an asshole (as a lead singer code to live by)
  • Cmon, forgive and forget, that's the Canadian way.

    That is true.
    10c way is different.
    Doesn't matter where you reside don't be an asshole (as a lead singer code to live by)
    You betcha! Keep on Rockin in the Free World
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,458

    Well, it's really been a slice! Now that the election is over, I really don't (can't) care for the next four years. Let it all play out.

    I've got to get ready to head to South America in a couple weeks. It's one of the ways I spoil myself. Most of you think I'm an asshole, and I don't blame you :lol:
    Politics is like sports to me, I'm the trash talker. The one who gets you off your game. Sometimes I'm saying what I believe. Sometimes it's pure horseshit.
    This may seem like a cop out but I can assure you, it is all too real. 99 out of 100 of you would meet me in real life and we would get along. That's the way It's always been :smile: I show up on game day and I'll always bring it.

    I don't really belong in any one political ideology, I'm just really tired of constantly paying more taxes. Who isn't?

    The remainder of this post is unprovoked (not worried about the white flagger or whatever you call it) , just telling it like it is.

    Truly, if I offended anyone I am terribly sorry. I had some fun. When you talk trash. You are always walking the line. Sometimes you cross it and concuss the quarterback. So to tirdy bills dere, I was really joking around about "drilling for oil". I mean, I'm in love with the most beautiful woman I have ever met (and she laughed at that post btw) and have no desire for any other carbon based life form.

    Despite all this, I do care about the direction of Canada. Cheers eh! I'll be one of those flag waving Canucks in the pit in Santiago and BA, handing out Canadian pins, making friends, swilling wine.
    No hard feelings on this side anyways. Cmon, forgive and forget, that's the Canadian way. :wink:

    no shit. you're the very definition of a troll. I called that pages ago.

    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • Sea
    Sea Posts: 3,127
    edited October 2015
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