America's Gun Violence

jnimhaoileoin said:

If I ever have children, I certainly wouldn't want them in a classroom with a gun, regardless of who possesses it. Luckily, it's not something I'll ever have to worry about

Yes you are lucky.

tempo_n_groove said:

In some states they have cops there on school grounds.

I personally wouldn't want a teacher carrying even if they had training. It's not something they should have to worry about.

We had an armed police officer at my schools in Florida.

Quick minutes from the Everytown for Gun Safety conference call last night:

We are going to call on President Obama to take executive actions to remove exemptions that let dangerous people carry guns near our children's schools; make sure high-volume gun sellers become licensed dealers and are required to conduct background checks for all gun sales; ensure that federal law enforcement notifies local law enforcement when dangerous criminals try to illegally buy guns at dealers in their community; help states that require background checks for all gun sales to enforce existing laws on the books; and not let convicted domestic abusers buy guns just because they're not married to the person they abused (research report here) -- none of which would require approval from Congress.

We are also continuing to develop a gun sense voting platform. It's all up for grabs in Virginia in 2016, and resident Andy Parker (Alison's father) is making it his mission to see that those seats are occupied by officials who will do their jobs by listening to their constituency and supporting commonsense gun laws. He called on Virginia residents to join him in this campaign. The gun sense voting platform will also be expanded beyond Virginia, to the wider federal and local ballot boxes in 2016.

Overall, it was a positive call, our numbers our up to 3 million members vs. the NRA's 4.5 million, and we've only been around since 2012.

Thank you for your time.

callen said:

dudeman said:

Gern Blansten said:

dudeman said:

The people firing in the scenarios above are responsible for every single round that they fire, just like everyone else.

Correct....and we know that people make bad decisions...especially when confronted with situations that are unique.

Moral of the story is that "more guns" is bad for everyone, even those with good intentions.

Who is calling for more guns? We need less guns in the hands of criminals and mentally disturbed people. I think that notion is universally accepted.

With proliferation of guns as I it is now and criminals will always have guns. Same goes for mentally ill folks not that you could identify them all and restrict their current rights.

Humans aren't so swift so even the non criminal/mentally ill can't handle guns.

So we either continue on current path of leading deaths by guns and arm everyone or actually do something to change our gun toting society. Know which society I'd rather have.

Do you think we should ban private ownership of guns?

What the f is happening?
Why the hell are there so many campus shootings?

dankind said:

tempo_n_groove said:

In some states they have cops there on school grounds.

I personally wouldn't want a teacher carrying even if they had training. It's not something they should have to worry about.

We had an armed police officer at my schools in Florida.

Quick minutes from the Everytown for Gun Safety conference call last night:

We are going to call on President Obama to take executive actions to remove exemptions that let dangerous people carry guns near our children's schools; make sure high-volume gun sellers become licensed dealers and are required to conduct background checks for all gun sales; ensure that federal law enforcement notifies local law enforcement when dangerous criminals try to illegally buy guns at dealers in their community; help states that require background checks for all gun sales to enforce existing laws on the books; and not let convicted domestic abusers buy guns just because they're not married to the person they abused (research report here) -- none of which would require approval from Congress.

We are also continuing to develop a gun sense voting platform. It's all up for grabs in Virginia in 2016, and resident Andy Parker (Alison's father) is making it his mission to see that those seats are occupied by officials who will do their jobs by listening to their constituency and supporting commonsense gun laws. He called on Virginia residents to join him in this campaign. The gun sense voting platform will also be expanded beyond Virginia, to the wider federal and local ballot boxes in 2016.

Overall, it was a positive call, our numbers our up to 3 million members vs. the NRA's 4.5 million, and we've only been around since 2012.

Thank you for your time.

Wonder how many are gun owners and NRA members supporting this?

It may take an additional effort from a CounterNRA owner lobby to force things along.

Imagine these shootings kept happening but they were being carried out by random Islamic extremists. Now imagine how immediate and crushingly violent the US governments response would be? And weirder still you'd see the NRA/gun lobby knuckle draggers throw their full support behind the government response, simply cos it was a Muslim did it.

the American attitude towards gun ownership is so insane.

eldarion75 said:

Imagine these shootings kept happening but they were being carried out by random Islamic extremists. Now imagine how immediate and crushingly violent the US governments response would be? And weirder still you'd see the NRA/gun lobby knuckle draggers throw their full support behind the government response, simply cos it was a Muslim did it.

the American attitude towards gun ownership is so insane.

I can just imagine the NRA's response: "Only armed citizens can stop the Muslim threat!" This would simply be another rallying call for gun owners. In the US, events which should give people reason to pause and reconsider gun ownership are quickly subverted by the gun lobby and become justification for increased gun ownership and fewer restrictions.

I can't help but wonder, what is happening in schools these days that makes people want to shoot them up?

dudeman said:

I can't help but wonder, what is happening in schools these days that makes people want to shoot them up?

Too many awards for participating