The Echoes Of Ahmed's Clock In Muslim History

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    oftenreading said:

    Godfather. said:

    it was only a matter of time......no pun intended.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/22/clock-controversy-may-cause-headache-for-obama-as-doubts-raised-about-story/?intcmp=hplnws

    Godfather.

    Just read over this bit of the thread from earlier and I honestly can't understand why the concern is being raised about the family, if that's all the dirt they can dig up after several days. So the father ran for president of his country - so what? We've got several threads on the AMT about people running for president; we don't necessarily think too highly of some of them, but that doesn't mean we immediately think they're terrorists. So the father defended the Qur'an, his holy book, when some Christian pastor "put it on trial" - so what? That doesn't seem much different than how you, GF, would defend your bible if it were put on trial. So the owner of some sports team called him and his sister helped him out on the phone - so what? I don't think I would have done a great job at 14 talking to a whole bunch of strangers I'd never met who were quizzing me about what I'd done to get suspended from school.

    No, it doesn't "make a little more sense". It makes no sense as far as I can see to try to make a case out of such flimsy evidence.
    glad you likes it and your opinion has been duly noted.

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.
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    I just read an article saying police told the family to pick up the clock a week age but so far a no show to pick it up.

    Godfather.
  • Dirtie_Frank
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    rr165892 said:

    I didn't think a new thread was needed but I saw this story on the news tonight.Id be interested to hear what you all think.
    In NJ the Muslim community at this school district wants a Muslim holiday with 6 days notice.Things get heated and it hits the news.The line the news is playing is "We will be the Majority soon".
    Im assuming it will bother some and others will support the issue.
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/video-muslims-taunt-nj-school-officials-were-going-to-be-the-majority-soon/
    Anyone from that area have any insight?

    I watched something on this last night. The school board said that they could not feasibly close the school with a 6 day notice and make parents of other students scramble for care. There was also an argument that Jewish Students do not get Yom Kippur or Rosh Hashanah (spelling) off either. They did tell the parents the children could have an excused day but will not close the school. I do not see a problem with that. There was a lady that said they will be the majority soon.
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  • Godfather.
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    screw em in the neck ! this is the kind of crap I'm talking about when opening our boarders, yes it pisses me off.

    Godfather.
  • Dirtie_Frank
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    I am going to bite on the clock story too. I worked with a military Org for almost 3 years called the Joint Improvised Explosive Devise Defeat Organization (JIEDDO) they recently changed their name to something else. You are all correct that the one thing missing from this being a bomb is the explosives. However, what is to say that he had them somewhere else? I do not think so, but if I was that teacher I would have sided with caution. When I was in Afghanistan I learned that the IED has stages and sometimes the emplacer put the IED out in stages. I think the teen knew what he was doing to be a wise ass, just like all teens.
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  • Go Beavers
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    Dirtie_Frank said:

    I am going to bite on the clock story too. I worked with a military Org for almost 3 years called the Joint Improvised Explosive Devise Defeat Organization (JIEDDO) they recently changed their name to something else. You are all correct that the one thing missing from this being a bomb is the explosives. However, what is to say that he had them somewhere else? I do not think so, but if I was that teacher I would have sided with caution. When I was in Afghanistan I learned that the IED has stages and sometimes the emplacer put the IED out in stages. I think the teen knew what he was doing to be a wise ass, just like all teens.

    So should a teen being a wise ass be handcuffed and detained? Although this would lower classroom sizes.
  • Godfather.
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    yes he should and his parents should be penalized as well, but you know what, this little stunt put his whole family on the home land security watch list.

    Godfather.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Godfather. said:

    yes he should and his parents should be penalized as well, but you know what, this little stunt put his whole family on the home land security watch list.

    Godfather.

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  • Godfather.
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    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Godfather. said:

    yes he should and his parents should be penalized as well, but you know what, this little stunt put his whole family on the home land security watch list.

    Godfather.

    A true patriot that kid.
    HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH.....yup !

    Godfather.

  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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    edited September 2015
    rr165892 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    rr165892 said:

    The line the news is playing is "We will be the Majority soon".

    It is not a line the news is playing.
    It happened.
    You are spinning.
    Yeah PJFan,WTF are you talking about.I didn't offer an opinion let alone spin anything.Its the caption on the video.
    This was on my local CBS affiliate news here in FL.Its A NJ story.So it must have legs.Not sure your angle here?
    I guess after participating too often on AMT one starts to wonder if anyone believes the news anymore. I took what you said as the news is "playing", as in eyeroll, here we go again.
    Make sense?
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  • Dirtie_Frank
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    Go Beavers said:

    Dirtie_Frank said:

    I am going to bite on the clock story too. I worked with a military Org for almost 3 years called the Joint Improvised Explosive Devise Defeat Organization (JIEDDO) they recently changed their name to something else. You are all correct that the one thing missing from this being a bomb is the explosives. However, what is to say that he had them somewhere else? I do not think so, but if I was that teacher I would have sided with caution. When I was in Afghanistan I learned that the IED has stages and sometimes the emplacer put the IED out in stages. I think the teen knew what he was doing to be a wise ass, just like all teens.

    So should a teen being a wise ass be handcuffed and detained? Although this would lower classroom sizes.
    If they refuse to answer the police questions which I read he did refuse. From what I read the police got a call that perhaps there was something that looked like a bomb. When they showed up he would not answer question. Well he got detained. It is not like they tackled him an put him in shackles. Once the police had more evidence they release him that is how it happens. If the police do not question and this kid is an asshat and does detonate a explosive then the police are criticized for not questioning him more.
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  • rr165892
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    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    rr165892 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    rr165892 said:

    The line the news is playing is "We will be the Majority soon".

    It is not a line the news is playing.
    It happened.
    You are spinning.
    Yeah PJFan,WTF are you talking about.I didn't offer an opinion let alone spin anything.Its the caption on the video.
    This was on my local CBS affiliate news here in FL.Its A NJ story.So it must have legs.Not sure your angle here?
    I guess after participating too often on AMT one starts to wonder if anyone believes the news anymore. I took what you said as the news is "playing", as in eyeroll, here we go again.
    Make sense?
    Yeah I get it,but don't be so jaded.lol

    I try to take each response or story/link providedand weigh it on its own merit,look at source(is it a lib story or a Fox News story,etc).
    Posters on this site are all very biased in their beliefs which I get ,but so many stories have so many angles we gotta take each one and give it its own review or we can't comment objectively.I believe Many of us fall on both sides of the fence just depends on the issue.So it's tough to assume who thinks what and when.I know I don't fit neatly into any way of thought.

    If you watched clip a lady actually tells the board that "they will be the majority soon".That kinda statement will make some here take pause and others it won't bother.But it wasn't media hype.
  • mickeyrat
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    I'd be curious to know why the tv news was at a school board hearing. And I'd be interested to see the raw footage prior to edit for air.
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  • PJ_Soul
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    rr165892 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    rr165892 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    rr165892 said:

    The line the news is playing is "We will be the Majority soon".

    It is not a line the news is playing.
    It happened.
    You are spinning.
    Yeah PJFan,WTF are you talking about.I didn't offer an opinion let alone spin anything.Its the caption on the video.
    This was on my local CBS affiliate news here in FL.Its A NJ story.So it must have legs.Not sure your angle here?
    I guess after participating too often on AMT one starts to wonder if anyone believes the news anymore. I took what you said as the news is "playing", as in eyeroll, here we go again.
    Make sense?
    Yeah I get it,but don't be so jaded.lol

    I try to take each response or story/link providedand weigh it on its own merit,look at source(is it a lib story or a Fox News story,etc).
    Posters on this site are all very biased in their beliefs which I get ,but so many stories have so many angles we gotta take each one and give it its own review or we can't comment objectively.I believe Many of us fall on both sides of the fence just depends on the issue.So it's tough to assume who thinks what and when.I know I don't fit neatly into any way of thought.

    If you watched clip a lady actually tells the board that "they will be the majority soon".That kinda statement will make some here take pause and others it won't bother.But it wasn't media hype.
    PJfan isn't jaded, he just has no faith in your use of punctuation. :lol:;)
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  • rr165892
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    edited September 2015
    PJ_Soul said:

    rr165892 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    rr165892 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    rr165892 said:

    The line the news is playing is "We will be the Majority soon".

    It is not a line the news is playing.
    It happened.
    You are spinning.
    Yeah PJFan,WTF are you talking about.I didn't offer an opinion let alone spin anything.Its the caption on the video.
    This was on my local CBS affiliate news here in FL.Its A NJ story.So it must have legs.Not sure your angle here?
    I guess after participating too often on AMT one starts to wonder if anyone believes the news anymore. I took what you said as the news is "playing", as in eyeroll, here we go again.
    Make sense?
    Yeah I get it,but don't be so jaded.lol

    I try to take each response or story/link providedand weigh it on its own merit,look at source(is it a lib story or a Fox News story,etc).
    Posters on this site are all very biased in their beliefs which I get ,but so many stories have so many angles we gotta take each one and give it its own review or we can't comment objectively.I believe Many of us fall on both sides of the fence just depends on the issue.So it's tough to assume who thinks what and when.I know I don't fit neatly into any way of thought.

    If you watched clip a lady actually tells the board that "they will be the majority soon".That kinda statement will make some here take pause and others it won't bother.But it wasn't media hype.
    PJfan isn't jaded, he just has no faith in your use of punctuation. :lol:;)
    PSoul,I'm sooo glad the Grammer police is alive and well.lol
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  • rr165892
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    Sentence structure was never my strong point.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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    So to get back to topic.
    The history of this guys clock will never be part of muslim religious history.
    The muslim history of clocks is pretty cool though.
  • g under p
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    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    So to get back to topic.
    The history of this guys clock will never be part of muslim religious history.
    The muslim history of clocks is pretty cool though.

    Who ever said it was?

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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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    edited December 2015
    g under p said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    So to get back to topic.
    The history of this guys clock will never be part of muslim religious history.
    The muslim history of clocks is pretty cool though.

    Who ever said it was?

    Peace
    .
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • Go Beavers
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    Dirtie_Frank said:

    Go Beavers said:

    Dirtie_Frank said:

    I am going to bite on the clock story too. I worked with a military Org for almost 3 years called the Joint Improvised Explosive Devise Defeat Organization (JIEDDO) they recently changed their name to something else. You are all correct that the one thing missing from this being a bomb is the explosives. However, what is to say that he had them somewhere else? I do not think so, but if I was that teacher I would have sided with caution. When I was in Afghanistan I learned that the IED has stages and sometimes the emplacer put the IED out in stages. I think the teen knew what he was doing to be a wise ass, just like all teens.

    So should a teen being a wise ass be handcuffed and detained? Although this would lower classroom sizes.
    If they refuse to answer the police questions which I read he did refuse. From what I read the police got a call that perhaps there was something that looked like a bomb. When they showed up he would not answer question. Well he got detained. It is not like they tackled him an put him in shackles. Once the police had more evidence they release him that is how it happens. If the police do not question and this kid is an asshat and does detonate a explosive then the police are criticized for not questioning him more.
    I guess I'm not willing to forfeit constitutional rights for what could happen. The cops knew at school that it wasn't a bomb. The FIVE cops should've left at that point.

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