The Echoes Of Ahmed's Clock In Muslim History
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You posted this from the fair and balanced channel yet a few days ago I posted the same in this thread and MORE that this could be a fraud yet not a word from you then. Why is that?Godfather. said:
hahha I was waiting for someone to past that comment, I posted the link the burden of proof is on you (as I back out slowly)mickeyrat said:
Can you prove any of it? Nothing more than conjecture in large part.Godfather. said:
your opinion is your opinion, can you without any doubt disprove any of that article ?dignin said:
I don't know why I even bothered taking the time to read that "article". What nonsense garbage.Godfather. said:it was only a matter of time......no pun intended.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/22/clock-controversy-may-cause-headache-for-obama-as-doubts-raised-about-story/?intcmp=hplnws
Godfather.
Godfather.
I'm willing to bet this horse and pony show about the poor kid and his "clock" gets better.....aaaaand I'm willing to bet daddy has a little to do with it, there, that's my conjecture can you prove me wrong LOL !!!
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oh yeah.....he made that for sure....in a briefcase ? WTF ????? HAHAHHAHHAHHAH !!!!!!!Jason P said:
Godfather.
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No. Burden on you as the "prosecutor" putting forth these ideas. Otherwise its a troll posting.Godfather. said:
hahha I was waiting for someone to past that comment, I posted the link the burden of proof is on you (as I back out slowly)mickeyrat said:
Can you prove any of it? Nothing more than conjecture in large part.Godfather. said:
your opinion is your opinion, can you without any doubt disprove any of that article ?dignin said:
I don't know why I even bothered taking the time to read that "article". What nonsense garbage.Godfather. said:it was only a matter of time......no pun intended.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/22/clock-controversy-may-cause-headache-for-obama-as-doubts-raised-about-story/?intcmp=hplnws
Godfather.
Godfather.
I'm willing to bet this horse and pony show about the poor kid and his "clock" gets better.....aaaaand I'm willing to bet daddy has a little to do with it, there, that's my conjecture can you prove me wrong LOL !!!
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What's more likely?Jason P said:
A- a young kid threw together a clock using parts of an alarm clock to try and impress someone?
Or
B- It was a carefully planned hoax, aided by his father to draw up some kind of controversy?
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Doubts raised does not a scandle make.JUST A GIRL said:
And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?Godfather. said:it was only a matter of time......no pun intended.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/22/clock-controversy-may-cause-headache-for-obama-as-doubts-raised-about-story/?intcmp=hplnws
Godfather.
Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Thread's not about you (and pretty sure no one called you a freak. For the love of Pete (or god), PLEASE let this Eeyore aspect go. So much more fun and informative without, if you're open to it).JUST A GIRL said:
And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?Godfather. said:it was only a matter of time......no pun intended.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/22/clock-controversy-may-cause-headache-for-obama-as-doubts-raised-about-story/?intcmp=hplnws
Godfather.
Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
I know that perception plays a part - a huge part - but perhaps that actual gesture should be taken into account as well.
And GF - facts, not speculation?0 -
I don't know the intentions, but he is a fraudulent inventor.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
What's more likely?Jason P said:
A- a young kid threw together a clock using parts of an alarm clock to try and impress someone?
Or
B- It was a carefully planned hoax, aided by his father to draw up some kind of controversy?
Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
Did he claim to have invented or just built?Jason P said:
I don't know the intentions, but he is a fraudulent inventor.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
What's more likely?Jason P said:
A- a young kid threw together a clock using parts of an alarm clock to try and impress someone?
Or
B- It was a carefully planned hoax, aided by his father to draw up some kind of controversy?_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Maybe so, but he's just a kid. I'd be in deep shit if I was judged on the things I did when I was fourteen. HahahaJason P said:
I don't know the intentions, but he is a fraudulent inventor.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
What's more likely?Jason P said:
A- a young kid threw together a clock using parts of an alarm clock to try and impress someone?
Or
B- It was a carefully planned hoax, aided by his father to draw up some kind of controversy?0 -
In that case he is a fraudulent builder.mickeyrat said:
Did he claim to have invented or just built?Jason P said:
I don't know the intentions, but he is a fraudulent inventor.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
What's more likely?Jason P said:
A- a young kid threw together a clock using parts of an alarm clock to try and impress someone?
Or
B- It was a carefully planned hoax, aided by his father to draw up some kind of controversy?
I can't just staple my computer to a wall and say "Hey, look at the computer I built!".Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
I do NOT believe Ahmed EVER said he invented that clock. I believe he said he BUILT that clock...whether from parts of another clock possibly but I'm pretty sure he said he *built* that clock.Jason P said:
I don't know the intentions, but he is a fraudulent inventor.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
What's more likely?Jason P said:
A- a young kid threw together a clock using parts of an alarm clock to try and impress someone?
Or
B- It was a carefully planned hoax, aided by his father to draw up some kind of controversy?
Peace
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)0 -
well my friend what exactly are the fact's ?hedonist said:
Thread's not about you (and pretty sure no one called you a freak. For the love of Pete (or god), PLEASE let this Eeyore aspect go. So much more fun and informative without, if you're open to it).JUST A GIRL said:
And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?Godfather. said:it was only a matter of time......no pun intended.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/22/clock-controversy-may-cause-headache-for-obama-as-doubts-raised-about-story/?intcmp=hplnws
Godfather.
Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
I know that perception plays a part - a huge part - but perhaps that actual gesture should be taken into account as well.
And GF - facts, not speculation?
a) he made a clock
b) it resembled a bomb
c) it was mounted in a briefcase
so far as I know those are the facts the rest is speculation right ?
Godfather.
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if you were a high school muslim boy you could because you'd have the power of political correctness on your side...no go staple that computer to the wall ! LOL !!Jason P said:
In that case he is a fraudulent builder.mickeyrat said:
Did he claim to have invented or just built?Jason P said:
I don't know the intentions, but he is a fraudulent inventor.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
What's more likely?Jason P said:
A- a young kid threw together a clock using parts of an alarm clock to try and impress someone?
Or
B- It was a carefully planned hoax, aided by his father to draw up some kind of controversy?
I can't just staple my computer to a wall and say "Hey, look at the computer I built!".
ps. don't even try making a toy Uzi HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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B is an opinion. Subjective.Godfather. said:
well my friend what exactly are the fact's ?hedonist said:
Thread's not about you (and pretty sure no one called you a freak. For the love of Pete (or god), PLEASE let this Eeyore aspect go. So much more fun and informative without, if you're open to it).JUST A GIRL said:
And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?Godfather. said:it was only a matter of time......no pun intended.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/22/clock-controversy-may-cause-headache-for-obama-as-doubts-raised-about-story/?intcmp=hplnws
Godfather.
Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
I know that perception plays a part - a huge part - but perhaps that actual gesture should be taken into account as well.
And GF - facts, not speculation?
a) he made a clock
b) it resembled a bomb
c) it was mounted in a briefcase
so far as I know those are the facts the rest is speculation right ?
Godfather.
The other 2 are objective_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
o.k. Perry Mason LOL !mickeyrat said:
B is an opinion. Subjective.Godfather. said:
well my friend what exactly are the fact's ?hedonist said:
Thread's not about you (and pretty sure no one called you a freak. For the love of Pete (or god), PLEASE let this Eeyore aspect go. So much more fun and informative without, if you're open to it).JUST A GIRL said:
And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?Godfather. said:it was only a matter of time......no pun intended.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/22/clock-controversy-may-cause-headache-for-obama-as-doubts-raised-about-story/?intcmp=hplnws
Godfather.
Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
I know that perception plays a part - a huge part - but perhaps that actual gesture should be taken into account as well.
And GF - facts, not speculation?
a) he made a clock
b) it resembled a bomb
c) it was mounted in a briefcase
so far as I know those are the facts the rest is speculation right ?
Godfather.
The other 2 are objective
do you object that he made a clock ?
and it was mounted in a briefcase ?
councilor the evidence clearly shows what appears to be a home made bomb in a brief case.
the prosecution rests, your witness sir.
Godfather.
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Lol, one thing....an important ingredient appears to be missing for it to appear to be a bomb....where are the explosives..plastique or C4?Godfather. said:
o.k. Perry Mason LOL !mickeyrat said:
B is an opinion. Subjective.Godfather. said:
well my friend what exactly are the fact's ?hedonist said:
Thread's not about you (and pretty sure no one called you a freak. For the love of Pete (or god), PLEASE let this Eeyore aspect go. So much more fun and informative without, if you're open to it).JUST A GIRL said:
And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?Godfather. said:it was only a matter of time......no pun intended.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/22/clock-controversy-may-cause-headache-for-obama-as-doubts-raised-about-story/?intcmp=hplnws
Godfather.
Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
I know that perception plays a part - a huge part - but perhaps that actual gesture should be taken into account as well.
And GF - facts, not speculation?
a) he made a clock
b) it resembled a bomb
c) it was mounted in a briefcase
so far as I know those are the facts the rest is speculation right ?
Godfather.
The other 2 are objective
do you object that he made a clock ?
and it was mounted in a briefcase ?
councilor the evidence clearly shows what appears to be a home made bomb in a brief case.
the prosecution rests, your witness sir.
Godfather.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)0 -
So, what is the difference between the seven mentioned in the linked article and this kid in Texas?
A. His name is Mohamed
B. He's Muslim
C. Its Texas, duh
D. All of the above
http://gawker.com/7-kids-not-named-mohamed-who-brought-homemade-clocks-to-173099986609/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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your honor I call for a retraction of that statement, the boys heritage and home are not on trial here.Halifax2TheMax said:So, what is the difference between the seven mentioned in the linked article and this kid in Texas?
A. His name is Mohamed
B. He's Muslim
C. Its Texas, duh
D. All of the above
http://gawker.com/7-kids-not-named-mohamed-who-brought-homemade-clocks-to-1730999866
Godfather.
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I'll have a CSI and bomb disposal team report on that. LOL !!!!g under p said:
Lol, one thing....an important ingredient appears to be missing for it to appear to be a bomb....where are the explosives..plastique or C4?Godfather. said:
o.k. Perry Mason LOL !mickeyrat said:
B is an opinion. Subjective.Godfather. said:
well my friend what exactly are the fact's ?hedonist said:
Thread's not about you (and pretty sure no one called you a freak. For the love of Pete (or god), PLEASE let this Eeyore aspect go. So much more fun and informative without, if you're open to it).JUST A GIRL said:
And again, when I raises the same concerns before the main stream media does, I'm a freak. But now that the rest of the world is sharing my views what I said two days ago is making a little more sense now right?Godfather. said:it was only a matter of time......no pun intended.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/22/clock-controversy-may-cause-headache-for-obama-as-doubts-raised-about-story/?intcmp=hplnws
Godfather.
Remember we're discussing this over how it looks, not the actual gesture.
I know that perception plays a part - a huge part - but perhaps that actual gesture should be taken into account as well.
And GF - facts, not speculation?
a) he made a clock
b) it resembled a bomb
c) it was mounted in a briefcase
so far as I know those are the facts the rest is speculation right ?
Godfather.
The other 2 are objective
do you object that he made a clock ?
and it was mounted in a briefcase ?
councilor the evidence clearly shows what appears to be a home made bomb in a brief case.
the prosecution rests, your witness sir.
Godfather.
Peace
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Then what is?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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