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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    Ran across this today and think it really backs up what some of you were saying about allowing the change in Iran to come from with.Quick read,good story from CNN.maybe change is coming soon?
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/03/opinions/fathi-time-to-retire-death-to-america/?iid=ob_article_organicsidebar_expansion&iref=obnetwork

    It's so refreshing to see a conservative who looks at issues and searches for sense and reason instead of just jumping into the expected conservative response!
    :smiley:
    Just keeping it real Gambs.
  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/09/world/29-us-scientists-praise-iran-nuclear-deal-in-letter-to-obama.html?referrer=

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rr165892 said:

    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    Ran across this today and think it really backs up what some of you were saying about allowing the change in Iran to come from with.Quick read,good story from CNN.maybe change is coming soon?
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/03/opinions/fathi-time-to-retire-death-to-america/?iid=ob_article_organicsidebar_expansion&iref=obnetwork

    It's so refreshing to see a conservative who looks at issues and searches for sense and reason instead of just jumping into the expected conservative response!
    :smiley:
    Just keeping it real Gambs.
    Love it!
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,311
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/12/world/middleeast/head-of-group-opposing-iran-accord-quits-post-saying-he-backs-deal.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,011
    mickeyrat said:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/12/world/middleeast/head-of-group-opposing-iran-accord-quits-post-saying-he-backs-deal.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

    oh my god. why the hell is joe lieberman the chair of this group now? i thought he was long ago relegated to the dustbin of history.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Where has BS been lately???
    It turns out the wacko cons are wrong again!
    CIA confident the deal will do it's job.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,003
    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    The saudis will buy one from Pakistan. The US can reduce it's stockpile if it wants but no one will care. It's a full on free for all now so better batten down the hatches.

    I'm prepping my doomsday basement room as I type this. Gonna test the local web in case the wifi goes down. Keep beating that war drum and fear mongering professor. Let me know when it's safe to come out.
    No war drum. Stating fact that Iran will build one and Saudis will buy one. That's it. No need to prep. Go on as usual. We're either all good or we're not. It's your world now Halifax.
    And I'm soooooooo scared of those big bad scary Iranians and all the rest of the world that doesn't look like me. I'm soooooooo very scared. So much so that I'm going to hide under the bed. Let me know when Canada has made the world safe again, pretty please?
    Don't be scared but don't deny it's coming. There is no deal.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/irans-supreme-leader-foreigners-cant-interview-our-scientists-118129.html
    Say again?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,011
    i heard the other day that the israeli government gave tom cotton a million bucks to try to sabotage the iran deal. i will need to look for a source though. if this is true, this is outright treason.
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    i heard the other day that the israeli government gave tom cotton a million bucks to try to sabotage the iran deal. i will need to look for a source though. if this is true, this is outright treason.

    I'm hearing it's a $100,000,000 campaign. Wow, spend $100,000,000 for billions is a pretty good investment.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,011
    i couldn't find a recent source. i did find that israeli lobby groups gave him money for his campaign if he were to be in favor of israeli regime.

    i saw that colin powell supports the deal.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,541
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    i couldn't find a recent source. i did find that israeli lobby groups gave him money for his campaign if he were to be in favor of israeli regime.

    i saw that colin powell supports the deal.

    Yesterday he received the support of 4 more senators ....
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,311
    edited September 2015
    Veto possible already. Puts him at 38? 3 more for filibuster. Kills it in the senate.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Filibuster is important symbolically rather than practically. Be nice if he didn't have to veto it.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,311
    mrussel1 said:

    Filibuster is important symbolically rather than practically. Be nice if he didn't have to veto it.

    He has 42 votes.

    GOP just wants it recorded. Election cycle coming.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,011
    mickeyrat said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Filibuster is important symbolically rather than practically. Be nice if he didn't have to veto it.

    He has 42 votes.

    GOP just wants it recorded. Election cycle coming.
    colin powell says it is a good deal. of course gop is not going to listen to him. they threw him out there to be the sacrificial lamb to sell the iraq war. they seem to forget that.

    looks like it is going through regardless of what gop does.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,311
    edited September 2015
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Filibuster is important symbolically rather than practically. Be nice if he didn't have to veto it.

    He has 42 votes.

    GOP just wants it recorded. Election cycle coming.
    colin powell says it is a good deal. of course gop is not going to listen to him. they threw him out there to be the sacrificial lamb to sell the iraq war. they seem to forget that.

    looks like it is going through regardless of what gop does.
    read a thing from Vox today saying this "secret side deal" the IAEA has with Iran hasn't been disclosed so technically Obama didnt provide all the details. Its a bullshit ploy to distract. WE have a "secret" deal with IAEA about our program and so does 180 OTHER countries. The deal isnt secret, the details are. Iran chose to disclose some, making it harder to close on our end. Fucking GOP took the bait.

    useless bullshit just like Benghazi hearings.

    So I propose , as soon as the IAEA discloses OUR deal with the world , we can expect Congress to get their grubby paws on Irans. Sound fair?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,011
    mickeyrat said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Filibuster is important symbolically rather than practically. Be nice if he didn't have to veto it.

    He has 42 votes.

    GOP just wants it recorded. Election cycle coming.
    colin powell says it is a good deal. of course gop is not going to listen to him. they threw him out there to be the sacrificial lamb to sell the iraq war. they seem to forget that.

    looks like it is going through regardless of what gop does.
    read a thing from Vox today saying this "secret side deal" the IAEA has with Iran hasn't been disclosed so technically Obama didnt provide all the details. Its a bullshit ploy to distract. WE have a "secret" deal with IAEA about our program and so does 180 OTHER countries. The deal isnt secret, the details are. Iran chose to disclose some, making it harder to close on our end. Fucking GOP took the bait.

    useless bullshit just like Benghazi hearings.

    So I propose , as soon as the IAEA discloses OUR deal with the world , we can expect Congress to get their grubby paws on Irans. Sound fair?
    they don't know how to govern with a majority. since they can't govern they stick with what they are good at, saying "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!" to everything.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,311
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Filibuster is important symbolically rather than practically. Be nice if he didn't have to veto it.

    He has 42 votes.

    GOP just wants it recorded. Election cycle coming.
    colin powell says it is a good deal. of course gop is not going to listen to him. they threw him out there to be the sacrificial lamb to sell the iraq war. they seem to forget that.

    looks like it is going through regardless of what gop does.
    read a thing from Vox today saying this "secret side deal" the IAEA has with Iran hasn't been disclosed so technically Obama didnt provide all the details. Its a bullshit ploy to distract. WE have a "secret" deal with IAEA about our program and so does 180 OTHER countries. The deal isnt secret, the details are. Iran chose to disclose some, making it harder to close on our end. Fucking GOP took the bait.

    useless bullshit just like Benghazi hearings.

    So I propose , as soon as the IAEA discloses OUR deal with the world , we can expect Congress to get their grubby paws on Irans. Sound fair?
    they don't know how to govern with a majority. since they can't govern they stick with what they are good at, saying "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!" to everything.
    23 problem children are seeking to shut down the government without total planned parenthood defunding.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,011
    mickeyrat said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Filibuster is important symbolically rather than practically. Be nice if he didn't have to veto it.

    He has 42 votes.

    GOP just wants it recorded. Election cycle coming.
    colin powell says it is a good deal. of course gop is not going to listen to him. they threw him out there to be the sacrificial lamb to sell the iraq war. they seem to forget that.

    looks like it is going through regardless of what gop does.
    read a thing from Vox today saying this "secret side deal" the IAEA has with Iran hasn't been disclosed so technically Obama didnt provide all the details. Its a bullshit ploy to distract. WE have a "secret" deal with IAEA about our program and so does 180 OTHER countries. The deal isnt secret, the details are. Iran chose to disclose some, making it harder to close on our end. Fucking GOP took the bait.

    useless bullshit just like Benghazi hearings.

    So I propose , as soon as the IAEA discloses OUR deal with the world , we can expect Congress to get their grubby paws on Irans. Sound fair?
    they don't know how to govern with a majority. since they can't govern they stick with what they are good at, saying "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!" to everything.
    23 problem children are seeking to shut down the government without total planned parenthood defunding.
    and they will do it, because they learned nothing the last time they did it. they paid the price at the ballot box last time. they will again. and then they will do another autopsy and recognize where they went wrong, and continue the same bullshit. scrub, rinse,. repeat.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Anyone catch the Tea Party's anti-Iran deal rally featuring Trump, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, the Duck Dynasty dude, Glen Beck, et. al? If so, can someone please translate their message for me? I don't think they were speaking American. Thanks.
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