California is closer to allowing doctor assisted suicide.

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,526
    Dear lord people relax. Nothing Partisan in what I said. The question was simply put "Oregon doesn't have much trouble with anything progressive or liberal does it?"

    This is the state that has amazing bike lanes and Portlandia, no?

    I also see where my comments were a little obtuse. Sorry. Didn't come off right and I get why it is important. I don't understood why it's illegal to do this.



  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    tempo_n_groove said:

    Dear lord people relax. Nothing Partisan in what I said. The question was simply put "Oregon doesn't have much trouble with anything progressive or liberal does it?"

    This is the state that has amazing bike lanes and Portlandia, no?

    I also see where my comments were a little obtuse. Sorry. Didn't come off right and I get why it is important. I don't understood why it's illegal to do this.

    Sorry for misunderstanding! It's really not a liberal issue- like I said, one of the witnesses at the commission meeting was a Republican and also one of the Assembly members who showed support is a conservative Republican. In any case, I'm glad you apparently support the issue.

    Now bike lanes- creating those is a leftist socialist commie pinko anti-industrial idea. Only radical left wing nut cases would support something so archaic! :lol:

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,526
    brianlux said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    Dear lord people relax. Nothing Partisan in what I said. The question was simply put "Oregon doesn't have much trouble with anything progressive or liberal does it?"

    This is the state that has amazing bike lanes and Portlandia, no?

    I also see where my comments were a little obtuse. Sorry. Didn't come off right and I get why it is important. I don't understood why it's illegal to do this.

    Sorry for misunderstanding! It's really not a liberal issue- like I said, one of the witnesses at the commission meeting was a Republican and also one of the Assembly members who showed support is a conservative Republican. In any case, I'm glad you apparently support the issue.

    Now bike lanes- creating those is a leftist socialist commie pinko anti-industrial idea. Only radical left wing nut cases would support something so archaic! :lol:

    Off topic I know but I wish they could have some in NY. They have them in the city sure but who wants to get hit by a taxi...

    On topic, how many states list euthanizing as illegal? Is that the right word even?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,715
    tempo_n_groove said:



    I also see where my comments were a little obtuse. Sorry. Didn't come off right and I get why it is important. I don't understood why it's illegal to do this.



    :peace:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • JUST A GIRL
    JUST A GIRL Posts: 372
    If someone wants to die, let them die. It's their life to do with as they choose

    I know I was born and I know that I'll die...

    "The inbetween is mine"
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,703
    Put me down for support , i'm sure a lot of the objections also come from the Medical front and insurance companies ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,526
    josevolution said:

    Put me down for support , i'm sure a lot of the objections also come from the Medical front and insurance companies ....

    Why? Because they aren't making money off them anymore?
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,703
    tempo_n_groove said:

    josevolution said:

    Put me down for support , i'm sure a lot of the objections also come from the Medical front and insurance companies ....

    Why? Because they aren't making money off them anymore?
    bingo ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    tempo_n_groove said:

    brianlux said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    Dear lord people relax. Nothing Partisan in what I said. The question was simply put "Oregon doesn't have much trouble with anything progressive or liberal does it?"

    This is the state that has amazing bike lanes and Portlandia, no?

    I also see where my comments were a little obtuse. Sorry. Didn't come off right and I get why it is important. I don't understood why it's illegal to do this.

    Sorry for misunderstanding! It's really not a liberal issue- like I said, one of the witnesses at the commission meeting was a Republican and also one of the Assembly members who showed support is a conservative Republican. In any case, I'm glad you apparently support the issue.

    Now bike lanes- creating those is a leftist socialist commie pinko anti-industrial idea. Only radical left wing nut cases would support something so archaic! :lol:

    Off topic I know but I wish they could have some in NY. They have them in the city sure but who wants to get hit by a taxi...

    On topic, how many states list euthanizing as illegal? Is that the right word even?
    Bummer about none of few bike lanes in NY. I don't know how those bike couriers survive in that town, great place though it is.

    Yes, "euthanizing" is correct. It is illegal in 46 states (soon to be 45, I hope). Here's the breakdown:

    http://euthanasia.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000132


    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    The End of Life Option Act was approved by the CA Assembly yesterday. Now it goes back to the CA Senate where it is very likely to be approved and then needs to either be signed by Governor Brown or have him just ignore it which is basically the same as him signing it (weird how that works).
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,715
    edited September 2015
    brianlux said:

    The End of Life Option Act was approved by the CA Assembly yesterday. Now it goes back to the CA Senate where it is very likely to be approved and then needs to either be signed by Governor Brown or have him just ignore it which is basically the same as him signing it (weird how that works).

    That's wonderful. Fingers crossed that there are no hitches. I consider this a true humanitarian breakthrough, wherever it is happening.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    PJ_Soul said:

    brianlux said:

    The End of Life Option Act was approved by the CA Assembly yesterday. Now it goes back to the CA Senate where it is very likely to be approved and then needs to either be signed by Governor Brown or have him just ignore it which is basically the same as him signing it (weird how that works).

    That's wonderful. Fingers crossed that there are no hitches. I consider this a true humanitarian breakthrough, wherever it is happens.
    Thanks for the support! Not sure when this will be finalized but it looks likely to go through.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,231
    is it true the governor has not weighed in on the issue? if they veto it, are there enough votes to override it?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    is it true the governor has not weighed in on the issue? if they veto it, are there enough votes to override it?

    That is an issue that will come up soon, gimme. Once the bill goes through the Senate again this one last time (very likely to pass since it did the first time the Senate voted on it) it will be up to Governor Brown to do one of three things:

    1) Basically ignore it. If he does nothing, it will go through as though he gave it approval.

    2) Approve and sign the bill.

    3) Veto the bill.

    There is some concern that Brown could veto the bill because he is Roman Catholic/ Jesuit and if he gets enough pressure from various religious groups of those types he could conceivably veto the bill. The impression I've been getting is that he will probably just let it slide by.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Yet another move in right direction for our country. Boy are we just rockin and rolling or what!?!???
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    JUST A GIRL said:

    If someone wants to die, let them die. It's their life to do with as they choose

    I know I was born and I know that I'll die...

    "The inbetween is mine"

    Interesting to hear this opinion from someone who espouses devoutly Christian views in other threads. I was sure you'd support the church teaching that suicide is a sin...

    Incidentally, I fully agree with the view you express, for once
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Friday, Sept.25th we will know for sure. Time to get busy and write to the governor and ask him to sign it.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Signed!
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/california-governor-signs-hard-won-right-to-die-legislation/ar-AAf8b3C?li=BBieTUX&ocid=HPCDHP
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,231
    hedonist said:

    Signed!
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/california-governor-signs-hard-won-right-to-die-legislation/ar-AAf8b3C?li=BBieTUX&ocid=HPCDHP

    :clap:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I'm not a big supporter of Brown but must give credit where due. I was really impressed by this:

    "In the end, I was left to reflect on what I would want in the face of my own death," the governor wrote in a signing statement that accompanied his signature on the legislation. "I do not know what I would do if I were dying in prolonged and excruciating pain. I am certain, however, that it would be a comfort to be able to consider the options afforded by this bill.

    He added he wouldn't deny that right to others.

    Imagine that.

    Good for him.

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