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Okay agree not to scale but similar individual type events. So same tactics they use can be more used in the lower 48. The guy that broke Into car dealer is prime example. Reason cop was fired.10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0
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I'm not sure 'just walking away' from criminals doing criminal things is the appropriate answer. I'm not saying mow 'em down is either, but if we want police to enforce laws and keep people safe... then we need them to do their job when they are called to duty.callen said:Okay agree not to scale but similar individual type events. So same tactics they use can be more used in the lower 48. The guy that broke Into car dealer is prime example. Reason cop was fired.
If you are breaking the law and have attracted police attention... it's a good idea to stop breaking the law and concede- the gig is up.
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Started with watching tactics of Alaska troopers. Watch it. Debating detailed tactics for each situation will be going down a rabbit hole. Course again looking at dealership situation and others like you gun and kid in playground. Are perfect examples. Even ferguson. If the dude was in fact feet away from cop could of been handled better. But alas do t want to get into that whole debate again.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I'm not sure 'just walking away' from criminals doing criminal things is the appropriate answer. I'm not saying mow 'em down is either, but if we want police to enforce laws and keep people safe... then we need them to do their job when they are called to duty.callen said:Okay agree not to scale but similar individual type events. So same tactics they use can be more used in the lower 48. The guy that broke Into car dealer is prime example. Reason cop was fired.
If you are breaking the law and have attracted police attention... it's a good idea to stop breaking the law and concede- the gig is up.10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0 -
No freakin way. I have tried that before and have been called a racist by many. Being a realist is considered racist on here so now I just sit back and troll when it comes to things I intimately know something about. As I said, it's comical reading what the "neighborhood watch" people on here have to say about police abuse and what not...especially when people are still defending Micheal Browns actions. Carry on please....josevolution said:
Ok so you are the expert have you once come here with a constructive opinion as to how this country can get past the level of divided community's because as of now the minority community's don't trust your team they rather get killed by the criminals then rely on police force ....please enlighten us what do you think has to be done , don't hold back ...muskydan said:
There would be a lot more Dead cops if that experiment ever happend Godfather. Nothin more I enjoy from this forum than reading how people think Police should have handled certain situations that usually happen in a blink of an eye. The internet worldly experience of some on here is very comical and typical of most who have spent most of their life on the proverbial bench.Godfather. said:
is it o.k when people kill cops..just cause ? or when people kill other people just cause ? most blacks are killed by other blacks, most gang members are killed by other gang members and they all hate cops because the cops interupt thier daily criminal activitys...so I was thinking maybe some you folks would like to try and be police officers...maybe you could show these criminals the compasionate more loving method of law inforcement then we wouldn't need a milita...right ?rgambs said:
No they didn't, but neither did John Crawford or Tamir Rice, and the police shot them without asking questions...I wonder what the difference is?Godfather. said:
depends, did they shoot anybody, rob a store, start a fire or loot anything ? LOL!!!josevolution said:There's also armed militia in ferguson isn't that counter productive ...
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Ok I can respect your assessment of how you are viewd here , I've never ever called you a racist ...muskydan said:
No freakin way. I have tried that before and have been called a racist by many. Being a realist is considered racist on here so now I just sit back and troll when it comes to things I intimately know something about. As I said, it's comical reading what the "neighborhood watch" people on here have to say about police abuse and what not...especially when people are still defending Micheal Browns actions. Carry on please....josevolution said:
Ok so you are the expert have you once come here with a constructive opinion as to how this country can get past the level of divided community's because as of now the minority community's don't trust your team they rather get killed by the criminals then rely on police force ....please enlighten us what do you think has to be done , don't hold back ...muskydan said:
There would be a lot more Dead cops if that experiment ever happend Godfather. Nothin more I enjoy from this forum than reading how people think Police should have handled certain situations that usually happen in a blink of an eye. The internet worldly experience of some on here is very comical and typical of most who have spent most of their life on the proverbial bench.Godfather. said:
is it o.k when people kill cops..just cause ? or when people kill other people just cause ? most blacks are killed by other blacks, most gang members are killed by other gang members and they all hate cops because the cops interupt thier daily criminal activitys...so I was thinking maybe some you folks would like to try and be police officers...maybe you could show these criminals the compasionate more loving method of law inforcement then we wouldn't need a milita...right ?rgambs said:
No they didn't, but neither did John Crawford or Tamir Rice, and the police shot them without asking questions...I wonder what the difference is?Godfather. said:
depends, did they shoot anybody, rob a store, start a fire or loot anything ? LOL!!!josevolution said:There's also armed militia in ferguson isn't that counter productive ...
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Muskydan welcome the racist-bigot club LOL !muskydan said:
No freakin way. I have tried that before and have been called a racist by many. Being a realist is considered racist on here so now I just sit back and troll when it comes to things I intimately know something about. As I said, it's comical reading what the "neighborhood watch" people on here have to say about police abuse and what not...especially when people are still defending Micheal Browns actions. Carry on please....josevolution said:
Ok so you are the expert have you once come here with a constructive opinion as to how this country can get past the level of divided community's because as of now the minority community's don't trust your team they rather get killed by the criminals then rely on police force ....please enlighten us what do you think has to be done , don't hold back ...muskydan said:
There would be a lot more Dead cops if that experiment ever happend Godfather. Nothin more I enjoy from this forum than reading how people think Police should have handled certain situations that usually happen in a blink of an eye. The internet worldly experience of some on here is very comical and typical of most who have spent most of their life on the proverbial bench.Godfather. said:
is it o.k when people kill cops..just cause ? or when people kill other people just cause ? most blacks are killed by other blacks, most gang members are killed by other gang members and they all hate cops because the cops interupt thier daily criminal activitys...so I was thinking maybe some you folks would like to try and be police officers...maybe you could show these criminals the compasionate more loving method of law inforcement then we wouldn't need a milita...right ?rgambs said:
No they didn't, but neither did John Crawford or Tamir Rice, and the police shot them without asking questions...I wonder what the difference is?Godfather. said:
depends, did they shoot anybody, rob a store, start a fire or loot anything ? LOL!!!josevolution said:There's also armed militia in ferguson isn't that counter productive ...
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No one is defending Michael browns actions.muskydan said:
No freakin way. I have tried that before and have been called a racist by many. Being a realist is considered racist on here so now I just sit back and troll when it comes to things I intimately know something about. As I said, it's comical reading what the "neighborhood watch" people on here have to say about police abuse and what not...especially when people are still defending Micheal Browns actions. Carry on please....josevolution said:
Ok so you are the expert have you once come here with a constructive opinion as to how this country can get past the level of divided community's because as of now the minority community's don't trust your team they rather get killed by the criminals then rely on police force ....please enlighten us what do you think has to be done , don't hold back ...muskydan said:
There would be a lot more Dead cops if that experiment ever happend Godfather. Nothin more I enjoy from this forum than reading how people think Police should have handled certain situations that usually happen in a blink of an eye. The internet worldly experience of some on here is very comical and typical of most who have spent most of their life on the proverbial bench.Godfather. said:
is it o.k when people kill cops..just cause ? or when people kill other people just cause ? most blacks are killed by other blacks, most gang members are killed by other gang members and they all hate cops because the cops interupt thier daily criminal activitys...so I was thinking maybe some you folks would like to try and be police officers...maybe you could show these criminals the compasionate more loving method of law inforcement then we wouldn't need a milita...right ?rgambs said:
No they didn't, but neither did John Crawford or Tamir Rice, and the police shot them without asking questions...I wonder what the difference is?Godfather. said:
depends, did they shoot anybody, rob a store, start a fire or loot anything ? LOL!!!josevolution said:There's also armed militia in ferguson isn't that counter productive ...
Godfather.
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So what is it? Is their DNA bad?
That or it's the environment. Right?
Do give us your thoughts.10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0 -
That's comical.callen said:
No one is defending Michael browns actions.muskydan said:
No freakin way. I have tried that before and have been called a racist by many. Being a realist is considered racist on here so now I just sit back and troll when it comes to things I intimately know something about. As I said, it's comical reading what the "neighborhood watch" people on here have to say about police abuse and what not...especially when people are still defending Micheal Browns actions. Carry on please....josevolution said:
Ok so you are the expert have you once come here with a constructive opinion as to how this country can get past the level of divided community's because as of now the minority community's don't trust your team they rather get killed by the criminals then rely on police force ....please enlighten us what do you think has to be done , don't hold back ...muskydan said:
There would be a lot more Dead cops if that experiment ever happend Godfather. Nothin more I enjoy from this forum than reading how people think Police should have handled certain situations that usually happen in a blink of an eye. The internet worldly experience of some on here is very comical and typical of most who have spent most of their life on the proverbial bench.Godfather. said:
is it o.k when people kill cops..just cause ? or when people kill other people just cause ? most blacks are killed by other blacks, most gang members are killed by other gang members and they all hate cops because the cops interupt thier daily criminal activitys...so I was thinking maybe some you folks would like to try and be police officers...maybe you could show these criminals the compasionate more loving method of law inforcement then we wouldn't need a milita...right ?rgambs said:
No they didn't, but neither did John Crawford or Tamir Rice, and the police shot them without asking questions...I wonder what the difference is?Godfather. said:
depends, did they shoot anybody, rob a store, start a fire or loot anything ? LOL!!!josevolution said:There's also armed militia in ferguson isn't that counter productive ...
Godfather.
Godfather.
So what is it? Is their DNA bad?
That or it's the environment. Right?
Do give us your thoughts.
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How? Show me post were someone defended his actions.Last-12-Exit said:
That's comical.callen said:
No one is defending Michael browns actions.muskydan said:
No freakin way. I have tried that before and have been called a racist by many. Being a realist is considered racist on here so now I just sit back and troll when it comes to things I intimately know something about. As I said, it's comical reading what the "neighborhood watch" people on here have to say about police abuse and what not...especially when people are still defending Micheal Browns actions. Carry on please....josevolution said:
Ok so you are the expert have you once come here with a constructive opinion as to how this country can get past the level of divided community's because as of now the minority community's don't trust your team they rather get killed by the criminals then rely on police force ....please enlighten us what do you think has to be done , don't hold back ...muskydan said:
There would be a lot more Dead cops if that experiment ever happend Godfather. Nothin more I enjoy from this forum than reading how people think Police should have handled certain situations that usually happen in a blink of an eye. The internet worldly experience of some on here is very comical and typical of most who have spent most of their life on the proverbial bench.Godfather. said:
is it o.k when people kill cops..just cause ? or when people kill other people just cause ? most blacks are killed by other blacks, most gang members are killed by other gang members and they all hate cops because the cops interupt thier daily criminal activitys...so I was thinking maybe some you folks would like to try and be police officers...maybe you could show these criminals the compasionate more loving method of law inforcement then we wouldn't need a milita...right ?rgambs said:
No they didn't, but neither did John Crawford or Tamir Rice, and the police shot them without asking questions...I wonder what the difference is?Godfather. said:
depends, did they shoot anybody, rob a store, start a fire or loot anything ? LOL!!!josevolution said:There's also armed militia in ferguson isn't that counter productive ...
Godfather.
Godfather.
So what is it? Is their DNA bad?
That or it's the environment. Right?
Do give us your thoughts.10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0 -
There are 81 pages in this thread. Not a chance I flip through them to show that. But at one point or another over the past year, I have read every post in this thread. So I am 100% positive I could find posts defending Brown and his actions. And for the record, I consider someone saying he didn't deserve to be shot defending his actions. He assaulted a cop. If you think he doesn't deserve to be shot, you're defending his actions.0
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That sounds batshit crazy.Last-12-Exit said:There are 81 pages in this thread. Not a chance I flip through them to show that. But at one point or another over the past year, I have read every post in this thread. So I am 100% positive I could find posts defending Brown and his actions. And for the record, I consider someone saying he didn't deserve to be shot defending his actions. He assaulted a cop. If you think he doesn't deserve to be shot, you're defending his actions.
Of course assaulting a cop is about the dumbest thing you can do, and is likely to lead to getting shot, but you think assaulting a cop makes someone deserve to be shot? That's nuts.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Word to the wise, you better not come to my town with that attitude cause some batshit crazy cop might do what they are trained to do if one decides to attack a cop. It rarely turns out good for an offender.rgambs said:
That sounds batshit crazy.Last-12-Exit said:There are 81 pages in this thread. Not a chance I flip through them to show that. But at one point or another over the past year, I have read every post in this thread. So I am 100% positive I could find posts defending Brown and his actions. And for the record, I consider someone saying he didn't deserve to be shot defending his actions. He assaulted a cop. If you think he doesn't deserve to be shot, you're defending his actions.
Of course assaulting a cop is about the dumbest thing you can do, and is likely to lead to getting shot, but you think assaulting a cop makes someone deserve to be shot? That's nuts.0 -
if you brush up against a cop they can charge you. i witnessed in my anti iraq war protest days a cop spraying someone and when they tried to run away from the cop they brushed against the cop. the kid got tackled and arrested for assaulting the cop. bullshit charge and i tried to tell the cops that. they threatened to arrest me for impeding a police officer or some bullshit.rgambs said:
That sounds batshit crazy.Last-12-Exit said:There are 81 pages in this thread. Not a chance I flip through them to show that. But at one point or another over the past year, I have read every post in this thread. So I am 100% positive I could find posts defending Brown and his actions. And for the record, I consider someone saying he didn't deserve to be shot defending his actions. He assaulted a cop. If you think he doesn't deserve to be shot, you're defending his actions.
Of course assaulting a cop is about the dumbest thing you can do, and is likely to lead to getting shot, but you think assaulting a cop makes someone deserve to be shot? That's nuts.
seriously, it was like watching a referree from the WWE get bumped into by a wrestler and they get "knocked out" for a few minutes.
i don't think assaulting a cop should be a capital offense. but darren wilson chose to execute this kid."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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I suppose you are right, officer Wison should have just drove by and never looked back and let that model citizen lil Mike walk down the middle of the street To continue his ways. Get used to this new community driven policing cause it's coming to a city near you and the bad guy know it. But look on the bright side, there will be a lot more Lil Mikes to enrich society.gimmesometruth27 said:
if you brush up against a cop they can charge you. i witnessed in my anti iraq war protest days a cop spraying someone and when they tried to run away from the cop they brushed against the cop. the kid got tackled and arrested for assaulting the cop. bullshit charge and i tried to tell the cops that. they threatened to arrest me for impeding a police officer or some bullshit.rgambs said:
That sounds batshit crazy.Last-12-Exit said:There are 81 pages in this thread. Not a chance I flip through them to show that. But at one point or another over the past year, I have read every post in this thread. So I am 100% positive I could find posts defending Brown and his actions. And for the record, I consider someone saying he didn't deserve to be shot defending his actions. He assaulted a cop. If you think he doesn't deserve to be shot, you're defending his actions.
Of course assaulting a cop is about the dumbest thing you can do, and is likely to lead to getting shot, but you think assaulting a cop makes someone deserve to be shot? That's nuts.
seriously, it was like watching a referree from the WWE get bumped into by a wrestler and they get "knocked out" for a few minutes.
i don't think assaulting a cop should be a capital offense. but darren wilson chose to execute this kid.
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Do you have a reading comprehension progled? Try reading it again and using your noggin' this time.muskydan said:
Word to the wise, you better not come to my town with that attitude cause some batshit crazy cop might do what they are trained to do if one decides to attack a cop. It rarely turns out good for an offender.rgambs said:
That sounds batshit crazy.Last-12-Exit said:There are 81 pages in this thread. Not a chance I flip through them to show that. But at one point or another over the past year, I have read every post in this thread. So I am 100% positive I could find posts defending Brown and his actions. And for the record, I consider someone saying he didn't deserve to be shot defending his actions. He assaulted a cop. If you think he doesn't deserve to be shot, you're defending his actions.
Of course assaulting a cop is about the dumbest thing you can do, and is likely to lead to getting shot, but you think assaulting a cop makes someone deserve to be shot? That's nuts.
You throw the word commie around less than you throw around your communist dictator-style ideas of justice.Post edited by rgambs onMonkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
I sure do, and get dumber And dumber every time I read most stuff on here. "Tick Tack Sir"rgambs said:
Do you have a reading comprehension progled? Try reading it again and using your noggin' this time.muskydan said:
Word to the wise, you better not come to my town with that attitude cause some batshit crazy cop might do what they are trained to do if one decides to attack a cop. It rarely turns out good for an offender.rgambs said:
That sounds batshit crazy.Last-12-Exit said:There are 81 pages in this thread. Not a chance I flip through them to show that. But at one point or another over the past year, I have read every post in this thread. So I am 100% positive I could find posts defending Brown and his actions. And for the record, I consider someone saying he didn't deserve to be shot defending his actions. He assaulted a cop. If you think he doesn't deserve to be shot, you're defending his actions.
Of course assaulting a cop is about the dumbest thing you can do, and is likely to lead to getting shot, but you think assaulting a cop makes someone deserve to be shot? That's nuts.
You throw the word commie around less than you throw around your communist dictator-style ideas of justice.0 -
Carry on comrade, Militsiya Dlya Zhizni!Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0
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....so what is the argument over ?
1) dumb kid is a thug and a threat to his sorounding area.
2)threatins cop and gets killed.
it's a sad shame but he made a choice that cost him his life..it happens everyday but the media
sold headlines with the "white cop" and "black teen" sales pitch and over 50% of the people bought the hype before even hearing what led up the shooting and by that time it didn't matter because it turned into an act of racism on the cops end and soooooo many got suckered into buying the poor 18 year old black child killed because of the color of his skin story....anything to make a buck..right ???
how many people made money off this kid's death and career ending case for a young cop ???? I'd bet niether one wanted any of this to happen.
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Darren Wilson wasn't playing judge and executioner. He wasn't executing brown. He was defending himself. Legally defending himself.gimmesometruth27 said:
if you brush up against a cop they can charge you. i witnessed in my anti iraq war protest days a cop spraying someone and when they tried to run away from the cop they brushed against the cop. the kid got tackled and arrested for assaulting the cop. bullshit charge and i tried to tell the cops that. they threatened to arrest me for impeding a police officer or some bullshit.rgambs said:
That sounds batshit crazy.Last-12-Exit said:There are 81 pages in this thread. Not a chance I flip through them to show that. But at one point or another over the past year, I have read every post in this thread. So I am 100% positive I could find posts defending Brown and his actions. And for the record, I consider someone saying he didn't deserve to be shot defending his actions. He assaulted a cop. If you think he doesn't deserve to be shot, you're defending his actions.
Of course assaulting a cop is about the dumbest thing you can do, and is likely to lead to getting shot, but you think assaulting a cop makes someone deserve to be shot? That's nuts.
seriously, it was like watching a referree from the WWE get bumped into by a wrestler and they get "knocked out" for a few minutes.
i don't think assaulting a cop should be a capital offense. but darren wilson chose to execute this kid.
Can you seriously say that any other cop wouldn't have done the same thing?0
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