Delta And American Airlines Ban Exotic Animal Trophy Shipments

Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
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I almost gave this thread the title, "You're just NOW doing this??" but I do want to give these airlines some credit for standing up and doing what I think is obviously the right thing here.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/delta-bans-exotic-animal-trophies-after-cecil-the-lion_55bfa7fee4b0d4f33a0380ba?

"Delta is taking a stand against the slaughter of rare animals in Africa.

The airline announced on Monday that it would ban the shipment of all lion, leopard, elephant, rhinoceros and buffalo trophies worldwide as freight.

The move comes weeks after Cecil, a popular male lion beloved by tourists and locals in Zimbabwe, was lured from a national park and killed by Walter Palmer, a Minnesota dentist and hunter. Last week, police received the big cat's decapitated head -- kept in the home of Theo Bronkhorst, one of the hunt's organizers -- before it could be shipped to Minnesota.

The killing sparked international outrage, prompting U.S. senators to draft a bill -- dubbed the Conserving Ecosystems by Ceasing the Importation of Large (CECIL) Animal Trophies Act -- to further restrict the import of hunting trophies.

Delta said it may extend the ban to cover other animals."
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  • Posts: 5,697
    They will just move to a private freight company.
  • Posts: 19,314
    This means they are clearly not making any profit on this activity and it isn't a part of their business plan. They probably didn't even ship any trophy animals anyway. Easy way to look good.

    It's like me claiming, "Today, Jason P announces he will no longer stuff decapitated prostitutes in random freezers near underpasses".

    Hurray!

    Also, fuck Delta and American Airlines. They are the two worst airlines I've flown. They give two shits about the humans that fly them. I'm sure dead animals clock in around zero shits.
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  • Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    "Good for you, Delta Airlines" is a phrase I have never before said and most likely will never say again. But today...good for them.
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  • Posts: 5,697
    Jason P said:

    This means they are clearly not making any profit on this activity and it isn't a part of their business plan. They probably didn't even ship any trophy animals anyway. Easy way to look good.

    It's like me claiming, "Today, Jason P announces he will no longer stuff decapitated prostitutes in random freezers near underpasses".

    Hurray!

    Also, fuck Delta and American Airlines. They are the two worst airlines I've flown. They give two shits about the humans that fly them. I'm sure dead animals clock in around zero shits.

    So where you going to put dome less hookers now?
  • Posts: 16,881
    Regardless of the quality of their service, this public stance lends support to conservation efforts. It's needed and will likely encourage other airlines to follow suit.

    Some psychos will still find a way to get their gorilla hands back to their homes so they can have gorilla hands in their homes, but it's still a strong show of support for 99.999% of the population's sentiments for killing animals so you can put their head on a wall.
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  • Posts: 19,314
    rr165892 said:

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    So where you going to put dome less hookers now?
    I've been thinking of switching to rusty washing machines for several months. Time to switch things up and break routine.
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  • Posts: 11,855
    the problem is....

    The big game hunting 'industry' is one thing pumping enough money in to give Africans the incentive to quell complete poaching/devastation. Its a catch 22. I dont like it, and dont understand the compulsion to kill a giraffe, lion, rhino on the verge of complete extinction, etc. Why cant rich people just pay for an all-inclusive safari/photo tour without the killing part? But at this point, until a new balance is figured out, it is kind of a necessary evil.

    What we really need is for American Airlines and Delta to convince the Chinese that Rhinoceros and Elephant horns/tusks are not a miracle drug.
  • Posts: 5,697
    Jason P said:

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    I've been thinking of switching to rusty washing machines for several months. Time to switch things up and break routine.
    Keeping it fresh.I get it.Thats a solid plan.Old fridges and dryers work a little better,but hey,this is your BBQ.Do what you do.
  • Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    MayDay10 said:

    the problem is....

    The big game hunting 'industry' is one thing pumping enough money in to give Africans the incentive to quell complete poaching/devastation. Its a catch 22. I dont like it, and dont understand the compulsion to kill a giraffe, lion, rhino on the verge of complete extinction, etc. Why cant rich people just pay for an all-inclusive safari/photo tour without the killing part? But at this point, until a new balance is figured out, it is kind of a necessary evil.

    What we really need is for American Airlines and Delta to convince the Chinese that Rhinoceros and Elephant horns/tusks are not a miracle drug.

    My guess is the answer to your question, MayDay, is that these people feel the need to dominate something and killing something endangered gives them a big ego boost. Maybe what the need to do is go out into the wild and hunt each other down- see who can get the most powerful CEO's head mounted on their wall or have a super wealthy persons hand made into an ash try.

    I know, sounds disgusting, right? Exactly.

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  • Posts: 31,656
    Yeah even with all the pessimist outlooks it's still a good move on their part at least someone's listening to the outrage of lasts weeks killing of the lion ...
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  • Posts: 6,801
    I am anti-hunting, but I think there was a much bigger deal made about this than there should have been.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Posts: 24,524
    You mean Cecil, know1? I have a huge soft spot for cats big and small. This guy being so cavalier about his kills just got me; I can't help but feel outrage.

    Good to see you jumping in here and there again, by the way!
  • Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    know1 said:

    I am anti-hunting, but I think there was a much bigger deal made about this than there should have been.

    In terms of a single animal and a single event and minus personal emotional biases, you may well have a point Know1. In terms of seeing that people are less and less inclined toward a cavalier attitude toward the loss of mega-fauna, even minus the personal emotional bias it could be argued that the attention to this incident represents something much bigger.

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    brianlux said:

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    In terms of a single animal and a single event and minus personal emotional biases, you may well have a point Know1. In terms of seeing that people are less and less inclined toward a cavalier attitude toward the loss of mega-fauna, even minus the personal emotional bias it could be argued that the attention to this incident represents something much bigger.

    Zimbabwe lifted its ban on lion hunting only 10 days after this uproar. I think shooting them is deplorable, but it brings a ton of money into the area for people who have nothing.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Posts: 19,314
    10 days is long enough for 99.5% of people to forget this ever happened. I call it Twiiter attention span. Rage and forget.
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  • Posts: 16,881
    Jason P said:

    10 days is long enough for 99.5% of people to forget this ever happened. I call it Twiiter attention span. Rage and forget.

    Yah.

    Old, brave, daring Minnesota dentist, killer of lions, just needed to ride out the storm. Soon, he'll be able to have dinner parties where he can brag to dinner guests about his heroism as he faced the king of the jungle with his crossbow (he likely won't mention the dozen rifles sighted in on the animal if the idiot failed to stick his arrow into a vital spot). He couldn't fail. The guides set it up so that ultimately, the hunt was of the canned variety.

    I'm being honest... I cheer for the animal in these situations. I wish so badly for the animal to get the upper hand in these 'hunts' and for the hunter to become the hunted and... get ready for this... the victim. Yup. F**k him. Psycho.

    Go ahead and sell licenses to kill lions, but let's even the field a bit and make it somewhat of a challenge. There's a very real element of risk for climbers trying to climb K2 or Everest. There's not much risk baiting lions by trolling a dead animal behind armored vehicles until the lion appears investigating the smell of blood. No guides. Just idiots in tents. Shitting their pants the first night out when they hear that first roar that sounds as if it's right outside their tent.

    64% of all African lions are killed by rich Americans that, I presume, get tired of shooting beer cans at the land fill with their machine guns and want to go shoot shit 'for real'.

    Cool lion head, man.

    If you weren't a f**king psycho... you'd realize a framed photo of the lion you watched in Africa would be infinitely cooler.
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  • Posts: 16,881
    Link to the stat I offered in my last post:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/07/29/rich-american-tourists-kill-hundreds-of-lions-each-year-and-its-all-legal/
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  • Posts: 6,056
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:


    If you weren't a f**king psycho... you'd realize a framed photo of the lion you watched in Africa would be infinitely cooler.

    Exactly...if it's not dinner, and you like the hunt.....then hunt....track it down...and shoot it with a camera.
    What was that Rutger Hauer / Ice T movie in the 90's? About rich people paying to hunt people? I sometimes wonder how many trophy hunters would do this if they could get away with it.

  • Posts: 16,881
    Drowned Out said:

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    Exactly...if it's not dinner, and you like the hunt.....then hunt....track it down...and shoot it with a camera.
    What was that Rutger Hauer / Ice T movie in the 90's? About rich people paying to hunt people? I sometimes wonder how many trophy hunters would do this if they could get away with it.

    This sounds outrageous, but I guarantee there would be people paying.

    Seriously.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Posts: 6,056
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

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    This sounds outrageous, but I guarantee there would be people paying.

    Seriously.
    really, what is the difference? opposable thumbs? Killing for sport is killing for sport. I think most trophy hunters have a dangerous lack of empathy that would def lend itself to being able to shoot a person for fun.

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