Neil Young takes on Monsanto

brianlux
brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
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In an interview recently, Neil mentioned that making music is his first job. He's also one of those rare endangered birds who, after all these years, is still not afraid to tackle big issues. In his upcoming LP, Uncle Neil takes on Monsanto. Definitely looking forward to this one!

http://pitchfork.com/news/59348-neil-young-announces-monsanto-themed-lp-recorded-with-willie-nelsons-sons/
"It's a sad and beautiful world"
-Roberto Benigni

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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    edited April 2015
    He hooks up with Lukas Nelson! Can't wait to hear that.
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  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    As someone whose been for his cause and a fan of his music, this is awesome. They need to be taken down more than a peg.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    backseatLover12 said:

    He hooks up with Lukas Nelson! Can't wait to hear that.

    Yes! Looking forward to hearing them work together.
    InHiding80 said:

    As someone whose been for his cause and a fan of his music, this is awesome. They need to be taken down more than a peg.

    Go Neil!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    About time someone does. Good for you mr young.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/25/opinion/sunday/how-i-got-converted-to-gmo-food.html?smid=fb-share

    How I Got Converted to G.M.O. Food
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    edited April 2015
    http://www.alternet.org/food/uncovering-real-story-behind-mark-lynas-conversion-climate-change-journalist-cheerleader

    Uncovering the Real Story Behind Mark Lynas' Conversion from Climate Change Journalist to Cheerleader for Genetically Modified Foods
    In 2011, leaked documents were obtained from the Brussels-based EuropaBio, the continent's “largest and most influential biotech industry group,” detailing an intricate plan to fracture the European green movement in hopes of undermining its near unanimous opposition to the biotech industry agenda.

    EuropaBio's members read like a who's who of multinational pesticide and biotech corporations notorious for endangering human health, polluting the environment and deceiving the public. Members include Monsanto, Bayer, Dow, BASF, Eli Lilly, and Dupont. According to the leaked documents, Mark Lynas was one of the biotech industry's most sought after “ambassadors” (i.e. undercover spokespeople).

    The lobby group's plan was to recruit high-profile, non-affiliated, “ambassadors” like Lynas to lobby European leaders to adopt more GE-friendly policies. Designated spokespeople would have bestowed upon them an undeserved aura of independence and objectivity.

    Lynas has denied being recruited by the lobby group. Yet his January public relations stunt may as well have come straight from the EuropaBio leaked playbook. Given the untruths woven throughout his “conversion” speech, can we believe him when he says he isn't shilling for Monsanto?
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    I may have posted this elsewhere so apologies in advance if so.

    Big kudos to Chipotle Grill!

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2015/04/27/402632212/chipotle-says-adios-to-gmos-as-food-industry-strips-away-ingredients

    Chipotle Says Adios To GMOs, As Food Industry Strips Away Ingredients

    Fast-casual food chain Chipotle Mexican Grill has announced it has removed all ingredients made with genetically modified organisms from its menu, making good on a two-year-old promise. It's the latest example of the food industry stripping away ingredients, some more questionable than others, as consumers demand a say in what's in their dinner.

    There is no scientific evidence that GMOs pose a risk to health, as Chipotle founder and co-CEO Steve Ells readily acknowledges. "I don't think this is about GMOs being harmful or not being harmful to your health," Ells tells The Salt. "It's a bigger picture. It's really part of our food with integrity journey."

    After Chipotle committed to ditching GMOs in 2013, its corn and flour tortillas were among the hardest items to revamp. But they're now GMO-free, thanks to Chipotle's collaborations with suppliers to plant non-GMO corn varieties. The soybean oil in the chips and taco shells, which was GMO, has also been replaced with non-GMO sunflower oil.

    But the journey isn't done: Chipotle still uses meat from animals that may feed on GMO corn or soybeans. Ells says he wants to change that, but it is likely to take several years.

    Michael Moss, author of Salt Sugar Fat: How the Food Giants Hooked Us, applauds Chipotle's move to remove GMOs from its menu. "I'm ambivalent about GMOs, personally," Moss tells The Salt, "but I think Chipotle, with this move, is once again showing how fast it's positioning the company to respond to its customers' concerns about food."

    ...more at link.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    I'm always astonished when people state that there is no scientific evidence that supports GMOs are harmful to human health. They must not be looking very hard.

    I applaud Chipotle for the removal of GMOs but I'd like for them to source their meat from farmers who use non-GMO grains.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    riotgrl said:

    I'm always astonished when people state that there is no scientific evidence that supports GMOs are harmful to human health. They must not be looking very hard.

    I applaud Chipotle for the removal of GMOs but I'd like for them to source their meat from farmers who use non-GMO grains.

    Yes, well said riotgrl. It sounds like they're at least working toward non-GMO feed meat. And of course they offer good vegetarian choices.

    I'm not a fan of fast food but on the few occasions I'm out and want something quick I always look for a Chipotle.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Can anyone post some peer reviewed research showing the correlation between GMO's and negative health affects on humans?
  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    Glyphosate crosses the placenta.
    https://uclm.es/Actividades/repositorio/pdf/doc_3721_4666.pdf

    This study links glyphosate with increased estrogen which is the main cause for most breast cancer cell growth.
    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23756170
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    riotgrl said:

    Glyphosate crosses the placenta.
    https://uclm.es/Actividades/repositorio/pdf/doc_3721_4666.pdf

    This study links glyphosate with increased estrogen which is the main cause for most breast cancer cell growth.
    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23756170

    Thanks riotgrl, I will check these out.

  • WhatYouTaughtMe
    WhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    edited April 2015
    brianlux said:

    riotgrl said:

    I'm always astonished when people state that there is no scientific evidence that supports GMOs are harmful to human health. They must not be looking very hard.

    I applaud Chipotle for the removal of GMOs but I'd like for them to source their meat from farmers who use non-GMO grains.

    Yes, well said riotgrl. It sounds like they're at least working toward non-GMO feed meat. And of course they offer good vegetarian choices.

    I'm not a fan of fast food but on the few occasions I'm out and want something quick I always look for a Chipotle.

    Chipolte is good stuff. I too applaud them and hope they follow through with the meat as well. It might take awhile but it shows how this problem can be solved. If more companies and big players in the industry demand certain types of products, there will be people trying to supply them. It's a way to use the market to affect a change. It's kind of the opposite of places like walmart demanding cheap shit from their suppliers. Of course it would also be great if a larger percentage of consumers demanded better as well. We can all affect a change if we vote with our dollars more often.
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  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    riotgrl said:

    I'm always astonished when people state that there is no scientific evidence that supports GMOs are harmful to human health. They must not be looking very hard.

    I applaud Chipotle for the removal of GMOs but I'd like for them to source their meat from farmers who use non-GMO grains.

    The difference between them and the anti vaxxers is that they're scientists and Jenny McStupid isn't.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited April 2015
    riotgrl said:

    Glyphosate crosses the placenta.
    https://uclm.es/Actividades/repositorio/pdf/doc_3721_4666.pdf

    This study links glyphosate with increased estrogen which is the main cause for most breast cancer cell growth.
    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23756170

    Whoa whoa whoa...pump the brakes!
    Glyphosate is an herbicide that is used on non-GMO crops as well as the Round-Up Ready crops.
    To say GMO is unhealthy because it is often grown in glyphosate is akin to saying broccoli is unhealthy because people put cheese sauce on it.
    Post edited by rgambs on
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  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    rgambs said:

    riotgrl said:

    Glyphosate crosses the placenta.
    https://uclm.es/Actividades/repositorio/pdf/doc_3721_4666.pdf

    This study links glyphosate with increased estrogen which is the main cause for most breast cancer cell growth.
    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23756170

    Whoa whoa whoa...pump the brakes!
    Glyphosate is an herbicide that is used on non-GMO crops as well as the Round-Up Ready crops.
    To say GMO is unhealthy because it is often grown in glyphosate is akin to saying broccoli is unhealthy because people put cheese sauce on it.
    Ok, then look at emerging research that says that GMOs may be responsible for the rise in allergies There have been several studies that looked at soybeans in particular.

    nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199603143341103
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    InHiding80 said:

    riotgrl said:

    I'm always astonished when people state that there is no scientific evidence that supports GMOs are harmful to human health. They must not be looking very hard.

    I applaud Chipotle for the removal of GMOs but I'd like for them to source their meat from farmers who use non-GMO grains.

    The difference between them and the anti vaxxers is that they're scientists and Jenny McStupid isn't.
    What does Jenny McCarthy have to do with it? Or the anti-vax movement? There is plenty of research out there about GMOs but I strongly support your right to consume whatever you like. I certainly hope you extend me the same courtesy.
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    riotgrl said:

    InHiding80 said:

    riotgrl said:

    I'm always astonished when people state that there is no scientific evidence that supports GMOs are harmful to human health. They must not be looking very hard.

    I applaud Chipotle for the removal of GMOs but I'd like for them to source their meat from farmers who use non-GMO grains.

    The difference between them and the anti vaxxers is that they're scientists and Jenny McStupid isn't.
    What does Jenny McCarthy have to do with it? Or the anti-vax movement? There is plenty of research out there about GMOs but I strongly support your right to consume whatever you like. I certainly hope you extend me the same courtesy.
    Exactly! No one here is trying to tell anyone what to eat and I don't think anyone here is planning on shutting down their local McRoadkill outlet.

    What some of us DO WANT is to have good, natural, healthy foods available to us and our families and to know what is in our food, i.e food labeling.

    And lets remember that Monsanto is not just about making sure people get their fair share of Frankenfoods- they are also largely responsible for spreading massive amounts of poisonous chemicals in the environment (and wildlife don't know and don't have the choices we do so they end up eating things laden with these poisons). There are a whole slew of environmental disasters connected to the work of Monsanto.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    dignin said:

    Can anyone post some peer reviewed research showing the correlation between GMO's and negative health affects on humans?

    Ha, doesn't look like you got any takers. There was a good article published by Slate yesterday that everyone should read, to understand the issues, the politics, the junk science, and the business, behind the anti-GMO movement. I've often considered anti-Vaxxers and anti-GMO activists two peas in a pod (probably a non-GMO pod). This article didn't disabuse me of that notion, but at least helped explain to me how everyone gets so confused about the issues. Greenpeace in particular has done us a massive disservice in this regard. The fight against Monsanto I get. The fight against GMOs is just silly.

    Unhealthy Fixation - The war against genetically modified organisms is full of fearmongering, errors, and fraud. Labeling them will not make you safer.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    You can read articles that argue both sides and find some that will suite your tastes. You can be persuaded one way or another. You have that choice. You also have the choice to make up your own mind about what makes sense to eat and not to eat. Enjoy your Frankenfood, Jeff.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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