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  • SD48277
    SD48277 Posts: 12,243
    Jenny, I don't know if this will help in understanding why some (definitely not all) people use GoFundMe or Kickstarter, but you might want to check out Amanda Palmer's TED talk. You can find it on YouTube. She also wrote a book, The Art of Asking, which is also interesting. Since she is a performer, her approach/intention is probably different from others, but it might be worth checking out.

    I'm not on FB, but are there a lot of blind requests for donations?

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  • PJSiren
    PJSiren Salem, OR Posts: 5,863
    I'm so confused...I feel like garbage, been nauseous for over a week, been overly emotional, and a ton of other pregnancy symptoms, yet I took 2 tests and both were negative...I'm not sure what's going on with me if it's not that...I just want this nausea to go away...
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  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    RKCNDY said:

    I completely understand! My friends had a devastating fire at their house...they lost everything, their house literally exploded into flames-it burned so hot both their neighbors' homes caught on fire. There is a fund set up, their insurance might cover the house, some material things, but they still have to pay their mortgage (I know, it's silly really, they have no house anymore), purchase clothing and necessities to go to work and for their young child. I'm amazed by the outpouring of support for them.

    Lots of social services here are really tied up in red tape, so some people have a hard time getting the assistance. Like medical bills, insurance really doesn't cover a whole lot-they will pay for you to get LASIK so you don't need glasses, but they won't pay for hearing aids so people are left not being able to hear well...how does that make sense?

    It's okay to question certain things, it's how you learn about the world around you.

    You see, I wouldn't find it odd for someone to set up a fund to help a friend. Perhaps it's the ones that are set up by the person looking for money themselves that have got me wondering. Then again, who's to say I wouldn't do it myself if I had no money, family, friends or governmental support. If you need money to look after your kids I guess you can't rule out any options that could help you
  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    I've often thought the same thing about the fundraisers that I've seen pop up. I don't get how anyone can be comfortable asking for help like that. I don't even like asking my closest friends to repay me when I've lent them money (or more accurately, when I've paid for something such as tickets or travel related expenses using my card).
    Some of the stores are just heartbreaking and I've participated in a few with monetary and/or raffle item donations. But ultimately there's no way to know what's really gong on. My favorite are the ones with no posting history who come on here with a link and a short story.I do give credit to fundraisers over straight donations though. I've been thinking about it cuz there's a chance I might have to sell off some valuable items in anticipation of some frightening medical bills and its crossed my mind that a raffle might not be a bad idea. But yes, I'm selling the silver before it gets to that point. I think some people have this "it doesn't hurt to ask" mentality that other people can't wrap their heads around.

    If I was any kind of artist I'd jump on that Praetor... Patron? What the hell was it called? Think Amanda Palmer had been advertising in a heartbeat. I feel for the creation of art it's a different ball game. If I were a real photographer I'd have no problem setting up one of them to raise money to go take pictures somewhere pretty, cuz then the backers would get copies of prints or whatever. It's effectively a sponsorship, which makes so much sense in a crowdfund perspective. There people in this world with more money than they have use for, but little sense about these things. If you're not gonna notice a thousand dollars gone and you like the music of an artist who can't deal with their label or can't get signed, or a writer with a great book no one will publish, then in return you wind up with a signed copy or a VIP ticket to a concert - I see no downside to this.
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  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,970
    edited May 2015
    ldent42 said:

    If I was any kind of artist I'd jump on that Praetor... Patron? [...] It's effectively a sponsorship...

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    In the theatre of ancient Greece, the chorêgos (pl. chorêgoi; Greek: χορηγός, Greek etymology: χορός "chorus" + ἡγεῖσθαι "to lead") was a wealthy Athenian citizen who assumed the public duty, or choregiai, of financing the preparation for the chorus and other aspects of dramatic production that were not paid for by the government of the polis or city-state. Modern Anglicized forms of the word include choragus and choregus, with the accepted plurals being the Latin forms choregi and choragi. In modern Greek the word χορηγός is synonymous with the word "grantor".

    Choregoi were appointed by the archon and the tribes of Athenian citizens from among the Athenian citizens of great wealth. Service as a choregos, though an honor, was a duty for wealthy citizens and was part of the liturgical system designed to improve the city-state's economic stability through the use of private wealth to fund public good. Choregoi paid for costumes, rehearsals, expenses of the chorus (including training, salaries, board and lodging), scenery, props (including elaborate masks), special effects and most of the musicians. The choregos also hosted a feast if his chorus proved victorious in competition. The prizes for drama at the Athenian festival competitions were awarded jointly to the playwright and the choregos. Such victories carried prestige for the choregos. Several notable political figures served as choregoi, including Themistocles, Pericles and Plato, among others. Monuments were built in honor of victorious choregoi.

    At the turn of the 17th century AD, in an attempt to recreate the ancient Greek dramatic tradition, the position was revived briefly in Italian opera, and combined the roles of impresario and director.

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  • SD48277
    SD48277 Posts: 12,243
    ldent42 said:


    If I was any kind of artist I'd jump on that Praetor... Patron? What the hell was it called? Think Amanda Palmer had been advertising in a heartbeat.

    You're thinking of Patreon.
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  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    Yea the book I finished had the roman stuff in my head

    whoooooooopsie.
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  • SD48277
    SD48277 Posts: 12,243
    Oh please let it rain today...
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  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    I may have possibly gotten myself banned again! All cause I don't think the same way most people do., :blush:
  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    I may have possibly gotten myself banned again! All cause I don't think the same way most people do., :blush:
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,528
    no one gets banned for how they think. only for how they act. I speak from experience.
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  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    Well then I should have nothing to worry about.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,528
    :get_outta_here:
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  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    If I can't get banned for my opinion, than no.. That was all I was doing. Staring where I stood in that matter. I realize and respect that you had a great enough experience in life to prefer human's over animals.. But you can't get mad at me for not having that luxury. So since it is an opinion... And nothing more.. I should be fine. And I don't have to change my opinion because you find it cruel.
  • RKCNDY
    RKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    I understand it as "as long as you don't call people names or use personal attacks" you are fine.

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,528
    RKCNDY said:

    I understand it as "as long as you don't call people names or use personal attacks" you are fine.

    That is the general consensus, from what I understand as well.

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,528

    If I can't get banned for my opinion, than no.. That was all I was doing. Staring where I stood in that matter. I realize and respect that you had a great enough experience in life to prefer human's over animals.. But you can't get mad at me for not having that luxury. So since it is an opinion... And nothing more.. I should be fine. And I don't have to change my opinion because you find it cruel.

    I didn't say you'd get banned. you did.

    carry on.

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  • samjam
    samjam New York Posts: 9,283
    Back to square 1 isn't even accurate--it's more like square zero. But here we go again. Another 8 job apps plus two inquiries in this week. And more hoping.

    I feel like I complain a lot on here, and if you feel that too, I apologize. Don't really have anyone to talk to this about other than my bf and a few friends I trust.

    So here's some GOOD!
    Interpol concert tomorrow
    Eddie/Pete on Thursday (!!!!!!!!!!!), plus my first time in Chicago which means getting to explore the city a bit on Friday
    Jerry Seinfeld on Saturday

    That's a pretty awesome end to the week if you ask me! :)
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  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    RKCNDY said:

    I understand it as "as long as you don't call people names or use personal attacks" you are fine.

    Yes it is never the opinion itself that's the problem, it's how you choose to express it. I could disagree completely with someone's point of view but as long as they express it in a polite and reasonable manner then I can have no objection, I can merely choose to disagree in an equally polite manner :)
  • whispering hands
    whispering hands Under your skin Posts: 13,527
    samjam said:

    Back to square 1 isn't even accurate--it's more like square zero. But here we go again. Another 8 job apps plus two inquiries in this week. And more hoping.

    I feel like I complain a lot on here, and if you feel that too, I apologize. Don't really have anyone to talk to this about other than my bf and a few friends I trust.

    So here's some GOOD!
    Interpol concert tomorrow
    Eddie/Pete on Thursday (!!!!!!!!!!!), plus my first time in Chicago which means getting to explore the city a bit on Friday
    Jerry Seinfeld on Saturday

    That's a pretty awesome end to the week if you ask me! :)

    Yes it is!! And you 'complain' no more than the rest of us! We all do it ho done extent. Hope your job search starts turning up some results soon!