Yeah, it's just funny how people complain about flipping.. then want to immediately turn a $60 purchase into a $300-600 trade. Help those out who didn't score, or scored a less-than-desirable mystery box!
I can kind of understand using its trade value, someone wants what you got and they match you up with something you need but seeing PJ20 colour for $1200 is just nuts!!
Yeah, it's just funny how people complain about flipping.. then want to immediately turn a $60 purchase into a $300-600 trade. Help those out who didn't score, or scored a less-than-desirable mystery box!
I can kind of understand using its trade value, someone wants what you got and they match you up with something you need but seeing PJ20 colour for $1200 is just nuts!!
What people have to realize right now is not a good "Sell" time, unless you are giving deals. With the supply increasing of the OOP records, it drives the price down.
Yep. Before all this the PJ20 colored was going for close to $750. Now people want to trade it for a Benny...
Just because they want to it doesn't mean they can, so I'm not sure it matters. But if someone has a spare Benny and wants coloured PJ20, then why not do the trade? That would be very cool of the Benny owner!
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You're right, but realistically it's not the same "market" value. But yes it would be nice of a Benny owner to do. I got shut out of the mystery vinyl sale, so it would be even better for people to let them go for $60 plus shipping to those that don't have duplicates.
Yeah, it's just funny how people complain about flipping.. then want to immediately turn a $60 purchase into a $300-600 trade. Help those out who didn't score, or scored a less-than-desirable mystery box!
I hear what you and others saying, and this reply isn't specifically to you but just folks in general, but it cuts both ways. While I'd LOVE to pay $60 to get some super cool PJ vinyl someone else got as a dupe but I don't have, that's about as likely to happen as someone offering me $60 for my Mystery Vinyl, which was a black Backspacer and LBC (I can't believe no one told me "pics or it didn't happen" :>)). But if someone wants to help someone out who got a (charitably) less-than-desirable Mystery Vinyl, you know where to PM me :>)
I must admit, I'm not sure I understand people feeling anger and are judgemental towards people because they aren't charitable with a record that's worth $300+. I feel like someone who does that is great. Very generous. But i don't expect people to do that. It doesn't seem fair.
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I just was trying to go to the extreme to prove the point, that people will be selling or trading these for market value immediately without care that they only spent $60 to obtain these. I would probably do the same. There is no anger or judgement here. Just wish there was a little more charity like Medoz for some of these things. I don't expect it, but would be nice...especially given the fact that lots of people got shut out. Lots of these doubles are probably listed on eBay right now. I try to routinely donate extra or stuff I don't need for OYR. I also donate stuff for personal causes on these boards. But oh well. I really don't care about this thread, except trolling to share in the excitement for those that scored. Congrats to everyone regardless. Just hope some of you follow Medoz's footsteps.
Yeah, it's just funny how people complain about flipping.. then want to immediately turn a $60 purchase into a $300-600 trade. Help those out who didn't score, or scored a less-than-desirable mystery box!
I can kind of understand using its trade value, someone wants what you got and they match you up with something you need but seeing PJ20 colour for $1200 is just nuts!!
What people have to realize right now is not a good "Sell" time, unless you are giving deals. With the supply increasing of the OOP records, it drives the price down.
exactly, with so much supply, eventually the price of these "rare" records will drop. those wanting a PJ20 colour, or ITW or whatever else, just wait, trade values and prices will drop no doubt.
Ive been collecting long enough to know selling duplicates or holding onto them for trade is all part of the game. Quite likely that PJ will sell something limited in the future which sells out fast and you miss out. Youve got to think of that eventuality and you'll have something to trade or funds from your eBay sale. If its of no significant value then great to give it away. If you get lucky with the mystery vinyl this time you may not be so lucky next time.
Wasn't saying you were angry btw PP. Just have seen some people who kind of are.
Yeah I was feeling a little bitter earlier about this. Whatever. It's all stuff. I'll just hit play on my iPod to hear yield. It's all good. I also agree that trading isn't as bad as flipping. At least both parties are happy and it somehow feels more fair than selling something you bought for $60 for many times more when so many got shut out completely and will likely never afford to buy them. Back to point one. It's all just stuff
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I'll mention again that I will refund your full purchase price including shipping, plus your shipping cost to me, for a duplicate Riot Act, ITW, Avocado, or Sevens.
Same here. Unfortunately the few people I've reached out to regarding doubles would rather receive something of high value or make a couple hundred bucks off their 60 dollar purchase. I guess I can't blame them, just hoped there were more people on here willing to help each other out. I don't want to make more holes in my lp collection to fill a need. Frustrating for sure.
No matter how nice someone is, no one can expect someone to sell something for $60 that is worth a few hundred or in the case of a Benny, a thousand. It doesn't matter how they got the record and it doesn't matter if they have 3 copies of the record. It's worth what it's worth. It would b generous yes, but can't b expected
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I'll mention again that I will refund your full purchase price including shipping, plus your shipping cost to me, for a duplicate Riot Act, ITW, Avocado, or Sevens.
Same here. Unfortunately the few people I've reached out to regarding doubles would rather receive something of high value or make a couple hundred bucks off their 60 dollar purchase. I guess I can't blame them, just hoped there were more people on here willing to help each other out. I don't want to make more holes in my lp collection to fill a need. Frustrating for sure.
No matter how nice someone is, no one can expect someone to sell something for $60 that is worth a few hundred or in the case of a Benny, a thousand. It doesn't matter how they got the record and it doesn't matter if they have 3 copies of the record. It's worth what it's worth. It would b generous yes, but can't b expected
That is true. I did have an arrangement on here with someone to sell them my mystery vinyl for 60 bucks to them if I got a duplicate, no matter what it was. A stranger to me no less. I ended up getting RNDM so it was moot. Of course I can't live my life expecting others to do the same. It's just sad to me that it has come to this. There are plenty of people who would love to spin this stuff without paying exorbitant prices. Shit, even if someone wanted to make a little money off me, fine. I just can't get down with someone wanting 200 dollars more for something they just paid 60 bucks for. I just don't think we should do that to each other. I'm not mad or bitter and it doesn't make me think less of people. I know how the market works. I see a lot of good stuff go on here all the time. Would like to see a little less greed, That's all.
.... I think it actually does seem to make you think less of people, FWIW. If you think they are being greedy you necessarily think less of them. Feel.what you feel of course. I'm personally just not sure it's fair to call it greed to want what something they own is worth. There are so many good things being done on these boards. I'm sure there are many people who have done great things for a lot of members and will in the future, but they decided to do a big trade or sale in this case. Either way, I figure they should be able to do what they wish with their mystery vinyl without judgement.
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.... I think it actually does seem to make you think less of people, FWIW. If you think they are being greedy you necessarily think less of them. Feel.what you feel of course. I'm personally just not sure it's fair to call it greed to want what something they own is worth. There are so many good things being done on these boards. I'm sure there are many people who have done great things for a lot of members and will in the future, but they decided to do a big trade or sale in this case. Either way, I figure they should be able to do what they wish with their mystery vinyl without judgement.
I assure you there are many qualities in people I disagree with. It doesn't necessarily make me think less of them. I am sure there are many negative qualities in myself as well. Whether it seems I do or not, I'm telling you I don't. Whether you choose to believe me or not, that's up to you. I'm just conveying that it would be nice for things to be handled differently. Call it idealist or whatever, just putting it out there.
.... I think it actually does seem to make you think less of people, FWIW. If you think they are being greedy you necessarily think less of them. Feel.what you feel of course. I'm personally just not sure it's fair to call it greed to want what something they own is worth. There are so many good things being done on these boards. I'm sure there are many people who have done great things for a lot of members and will in the future, but they decided to do a big trade or sale in this case. Either way, I figure they should be able to do what they wish with their mystery vinyl without judgement.
When I mentioned about the eBay sales I more meant that it would be nicer if people looked to swap and trade items. A PJ20 colour if I had one and someone wanted it and they had a LD for instance. I would prefer to swap outright than send my lucky mystery vinyl to eBay. Trading to the value seems fair but when people have taken part in this process in the hope of getting lucky with the intention of never saying what they got and are putting a PJ20 colour on eBay for $800 starting price seems greedy and not in the spirit of the sale. I saw a Sevens box on eBay and the picture was one that had been shown on here. (I note the picture was removed from here so I can not for sure say who that person was and would likely not anyway as ultimately is none of my business) Getting something for $60 knowing your sole intention is to sell it on eBay just seems a shame to me. I fully understand what you are all saying and in truth you are right, things are worth their market value and no one should expect to get it for less but still it would be nice to see you all getting to fill the gaps in your collections. Still a great sale and the kindness shown here is lovely.
I think anyone willing to pay some of these eBay asking prices is nuts. Eventually all the studio LPs will be available. LO2L, RVM, LO10L, PJ20 and Sevens are a different story, cant see these being reissued any time soon if ever. As for Benny and Lost Dogs then they will probably give in and reissue them one day in some form, only for loads of copies to sit unsold in the store . A colored pj20 is a nice to have item in your collection but I've never felt there is a gap in my collection when I have it on black so why people are willing to pay close to $1000 is beyond me.
I think anyone willing to pay some of these eBay asking prices is nuts. Eventually all the studio LPs will be available. LO2L, RVM, LO10L, PJ20 and Sevens are a different story, cant see these being reissued any time soon if ever. As for Benny and Lost Dogs then they will probably give in and reissue them one day in some form, only for loads of copies to sit unsold in the store . A colored pj20 is a nice to have item in your collection but I've never felt there is a gap in my collection when I have it on black so why people are willing to pay close to $1000 is beyond me.
Just for the record if this is at all about my trade attempt for the pj20 color for Benny on lost dogs I have no intent on making money off anything or ever selling anything on eBay. I play the game in this forum to fill my needs in my collection and that's as far as it goes. I got lucky and am just trying to use it to fill a need. I buy stuff and hope to score when 10c has a sale in order to later trade it if I choose to, not to try to rip anyone off or to make a buck. It's all here on the forum and if someone likes a trade they take it and if they don't they don't. Never sold anything on eBay and never will, though I have bought a few things from there. I donate cash to causes on here when I can too, and have made many trades on this forum before with good people, and both parties always feel like they get a good deal. Definitely not trying to screw anyone here.
Saddens me all the vinyl suddenly appearing on eBay just as the mystery sale is reaching the US doors. $800 to $1200 for a minimum of 6 PJ20 colour, 7s boxes, Avacado. The list is endless.
I'm hoping the market gets a little flooded and NO ONE pays the stupid prices!!!
"putting a PJ20 colour on eBay for $800 starting price seems greedy and not in the spirit of the sale"
Anyone who starts off with a high starting price simply wants money and are greedy. Past sales make there eyes as big as saucers though they tend to miss all the lower sales that happen too. Funny how that works out… Start a bid at .99$
I've been offered some very nice trades for my PJ20 colored. One was a very tempting suggestion of a trade, and I just cannot pull the trigger. (I do own the black version too)
I completed my holiday single collection in less than a year, and everything was very reasonably priced...*very* reasonably priced. So it's in my head that the vinyl I want to complete my collection will come my way, and I won't have to pay stupid prices. Never intended on Collecting colored versions, but gosh it's so pretty!
On here I've seen some shitty trades go down in LD-which carries over to FB (and there are shitty things that happpen there too). I hate paying eBay prices, so what is someone supposed to do? Easiest answer is for PJ to re-issue the rest of the albums that haven't been...including Benny, it would give us poor folk the chance to complete our collection.
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I've been offered some very nice trades for my PJ20 colored. One was a very tempting suggestion of a trade, and I just cannot pull the trigger. (I do own the black version too)
I completed my holiday single collection in less than a year, and everything was very reasonably priced...*very* reasonably priced. So it's in my head that the vinyl I want to complete my collection will come my way, and I won't have to pay stupid prices. Never intended on Collecting colored versions, but gosh it's so pretty!
On here I've seen some shitty trades go down in LD-which carries over to FB (and there are shitty things that happpen there too). I hate paying eBay prices, so what is someone supposed to do? Easiest answer is for PJ to re-issue the rest of the albums that haven't been...including Benny, it would give us poor folk the chance to complete our collection.
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If you get lucky with the mystery vinyl this time you may not be so lucky next time.
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There are so many good things being done on these boards. I'm sure there are many people who have done great things for a lot of members and will in the future, but they decided to do a big trade or sale in this case. Either way, I figure they should be able to do what they wish with their mystery vinyl without judgement.
I donate cash to causes on here when I can too, and have made many trades on this forum before with good people, and both parties always feel like they get a good deal. Definitely not trying to screw anyone here.
That being said I still want an ITW w/7"...
Anyone who starts off with a high starting price simply wants money and are greedy. Past sales make there eyes as big as saucers though they tend to miss all the lower sales that happen too. Funny how that works out…
Start a bid at .99$
I completed my holiday single collection in less than a year, and everything was very reasonably priced...*very* reasonably priced. So it's in my head that the vinyl I want to complete my collection will come my way, and I won't have to pay stupid prices. Never intended on Collecting colored versions, but gosh it's so pretty!
On here I've seen some shitty trades go down in LD-which carries over to FB (and there are shitty things that happpen there too). I hate paying eBay prices, so what is someone supposed to do? Easiest answer is for PJ to re-issue the rest of the albums that haven't been...including Benny, it would give us poor folk the chance to complete our collection.
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