MLB 2025 Season

Cliffy6745 said:

cdysinge said:

I would fully expect NL clubs to fight it. Just as the AL will not want to go back the NL teams won't want it. An extra reliever costs a couple of million. Going out and paying another decent hitter that only hits (a la sloppi) will cost 10 to 20 million. I kind of like the leagues being different. It makes the world series and the clash of styles of play more interesting. If anything get rid of inter-league play.

To get rid of interleague you either have to add or contract two teams and realign divisions at this point. That's not happening. And interleague is a good thing for the simple fact that one division doesn't have an advantage over every other division in baseball.

The DH will be universal soon. I don't get why the NL would fight it at this point, why in the hell would they even want to risk an injury of their $200 million pitchers batting?

i find this argument to be just silly. Yea i know Wainright just got hurt batting but how many pitches actually get hurt in a given season while batting? it's extremely rare that it happens. what's next not having the pitcher cover 1st or backup third/home on throws because they might get hurt? 99% of pitchers in the game today end up with an arm or shoulder injury at some poitn in their careers, worrying about them getting hurt hitting is absurd.

the DH is terrible for the game. the NL should fight it because pitchers are baseball players to. why should one player not have to do what everyone else does?

After you give up the DH whats next, putting screens in front of the pitchers so what happened to Bradley doesn't happen again. This is the same as the NFL pussing out and making it a penalty to touch a QB. Its sports, these guys are paid very well and there are inherent dangers in that job as with any job. I might get carpel tunnel at work. Does that mean I should insist to my job I need a secretary to dictate to so I can save my hands. This is an example of the pussification of America.

And I am pretty sure the impact of you getting carpel tunnel and Wainwright blowing out his achilles is slightly different to the respective companies.

cdysinge said:

Waino could have blown his Achilles fielding a ball as well. Do we have designated fielders for pitchers now also? Its bad for baseball to lose it. Keep it in the AL fine, but leave the NL alone.

How is it bad for baseball???

I honestly don't care that much one way or the other, but I think it should be the same across both leagues. One of the dumbest things in all of sports that they play by different rules in the AL and NL. Almost as dumb as the All Star Game determining homefield advantage for the World Series.

Cliffy6745 said:

But it's not really just that. Pitchers get paid to pitch. Why bother risk injury just for a double switch? Is a double switch really that exciting? Why would a team or fan base want the potential of ruining a season because they get hurt doing something they don't give a shit about?

And pitchers who don't want to bat are actually making their job harder on themselves, considering they don't get an inning off every few innings.

Perhaps the pussies are the pitchers who prefer to face other pitchers rather than someone who can actually hit a baseball?

using that logic why not do it for every position then and have offensive and defensive players like football? why should we limit that to pitchers?

and pitchers who don't give a shit about hitting are only hurting themselves and their teams. it's fucking idiotic to be in the NL as a pitcher and not put time into it. i mean it's not like pitchers have any free time between starts to do a little extra preparation to hit right (cue eyeroll)?

and it's not just about double switches. it's about decisions on when to take a pitcher out,when to pinch hit, who to pinch hit, who is left, matchups now or later in the game. the last position player on an NL roster has a much greater chance of having an effect on a game than the last position player on an AL roster. the last position player on an AL roster might as well not even put an uniform on for 95% of the games because the chances of that player getting into a game he doesn't start is tiny. at least the NL guy has a chance and has to be prepared for an at-bat everyday.

Still waiting to hear why putting the DH into the NL would be bad for baseball....

cdysinge said:

No one pays to see Simmons from ATL bat. He is a defensive whiz. Lets DH for him too.

And your theory on why pull out a starter who is rolling is actually why it should stay. The NL requires a real manager who has to make decisions. A game can turn on any right or wrong one made. This game is different but still baseball with positions and players playing. Pitcher is a position with different responsibilities than the other guys but it is still a position.

So AL managers aren't real managers? They don't make decisions?

Indifference71 said:

Still waiting to hear why putting the DH into the NL would be bad for baseball....

I kind of like that it is different in both leagues. I cant disagree that it makes little sense, I just kind of like it. I liked it better when the leagues were different and they didnt play one another except in the World Series.

I know, I know....stay off my fucking lawn, I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids, back in my day we used to have to walk to school uphill both ways, fuck Forrest Hills, and everything else us old cranky men say all of the time.

I can see both sides of the argument and like that there is a difference.

F Me In The Brain said:

Indifference71 said:

Still waiting to hear why putting the DH into the NL would be bad for baseball....

I kind of like that it is different in both leagues. I cant disagree that it makes little sense, I just kind of like it. I liked it better when the leagues were different and they didnt play one another except in the World Series.

I know, I know....stay off my fucking lawn, I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids, back in my day we used to have to walk to school uphill both ways, fuck Forrest Hills, and everything else us old cranky men say all of the time.

I can see both sides of the argument and like that there is a difference.

I am fine with the difference so as long as I don't typically watch boring ass NL baseball.

That said, I think we all know where this argument is going to end eventually.

Last-12-Exit said:

The NL will not go to the DH. You can forget about that pipe dream.

I would put very good money that it does, quite possibly in the next CBA. With all the drug testing concessions, you bet your ass they are going to fight for it. There is a lot more money to be made by players off the DH than pitchers batting.