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Wobbie · April 2015

Cliffy6745 said:

The Juggler said:

Cliffy6745 said:

imalive said:
That dope Scherzer says the NL needs the DH
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/26/pitchers-batting-is-dumb-and-the-dh-should-be-universal/
nope.
I know this article doesn't really focus on it but I can't see any argument that would think a double switch is more important to baseball than one of the better pitchers in the game blowing his Achilles batting

you wouldn't understand.....you're an AL guy.

fuck the DH.

Amongst the Ani · April 2015

Fuck the DH. Make the pansy ass AL pitchers hit. They get paid to play baseball. That includes a position in the field and having to bat.

Last-12-Exit · April 2015

That's a freak injury. Who hurts their Achilles these days?

Cliffy6745 · April 2015

cdysinge said:
Fuck the DH. Make the pansy ass AL pitchers hit. They get paid to play baseball. That includes a position in the field and having to bat.

On the contrary, pitchers get paid to pitch. No one ever signed a pitcher because he could hit the ball.

Last-12-Exit · April 2015

Baltimore will be playing in an empty stadium. They're closing the doors to the public.

F Me In The Brain · April 2015

^^ Damn, I didnt sign up for the baseball package so I wont be able to see this. Would think it is a crazy scenario....interesting to watch.

mfc2006 · April 2015

Last-12-Exit said:
Baltimore will be playing in an empty stadium. They're closing the doors to the public.

it's going to be a strange game to watch, that's for sure.

eeriepadave · April 2015

mfc2006 said:

Last-12-Exit said:
Baltimore will be playing in an empty stadium. They're closing the doors to the public.
it's going to be a strange game to watch, that's for sure.

so it'll be like their playing in Florida then?

Wobbie · April 2015

F Me In The Brain said:
^^ Damn, I didnt sign up for the baseball package so I wont be able to see this. Would think it is a crazy scenario....interesting to watch.

I'm wondering if guys in the dugout will be going "swing batter, swing batter, swing batter, swing"?

Wobbie · April 2015

Cliffy6745 said:

cdysinge said:
Fuck the DH. Make the pansy ass AL pitchers hit. They get paid to play baseball. That includes a position in the field and having to bat.
On the contrary, pitchers get paid to pitch. No one ever signed a pitcher because he could hit the ball.

LOS ANGELES – Madison Bumgarner saw Max Scherzer’s comments advocating that the designated hitter should be instituted in both leagues, and asserting that nobody pays to see a pitcher “swinging a wet newspaper.”

Any thoughts on that, Madison?

“Oh, well, my wet newspaper is 34 ½ inches, 33 ½ ounces, and I’m waiting on some new ones right now,” said Bumgarner, asked for comment.

One more thing: Bumgarner hit two grand slams with that newspaper last season.

Wainwright, however, said his injury shouldn't be the catalyst for change.

"I couldn't disagree more," Wainwright told reporters. "I love Max ... but I just think baseball is a National League game. I wish both leagues would convert to National League baseball. I understand why people would say that, but you can't point to another instance, almost, that the pitcher got hurt, whether or not it was their Achilles, doing that kind of thing.

"The strategy and the game itself in the National is just a better game, in my opinion. I hope that people don't look at this -- which I know they already are -- and think we should switch to a DH for pitchers. I think baseball is a beautiful game and I hope it doesn't change too much."

face it cliffy, your boys play a pussy game.

Amongst the Ani · April 2015

Scherzer apologized to MadBum for his DH comments. I love it.

Indifference71 · April 2015

Love or hate the DH, it's not going away. Players union would never agree to it. I think it's much more likely the DH moves to the NL. No matter what you think about it, it makes zero sense for the AL and NL to be playing by different rules.

Amongst the Ani · April 2015

I would fully expect NL clubs to fight it. Just as the AL will not want to go back the NL teams won't want it. An extra reliever costs a couple of million. Going out and paying another decent hitter that only hits (a la sloppi) will cost 10 to 20 million. I kind of like the leagues being different. It makes the world series and the clash of styles of play more interesting. If anything get rid of inter-league play.

Indifference71 · April 2015

cdysinge said:
I would fully expect NL clubs to fight it. Just as the AL will not want to go back the NL teams won't want it. An extra reliever costs a couple of million. Going out and paying another decent hitter that only hits (a la sloppi) will cost 10 to 20 million. I kind of like the leagues being different. It makes the world series and the clash of styles of play more interesting. If anything get rid of inter-league play.

Well you know they're not getting rid of interleague play. I don't mind interleague play....gets a little stale to play the same 13-14 teams in your own league over a 162 game season.

I just think that everything should be on a level playing field.....whether it's a DH or no DH.

Cliffy6745 · April 2015

cdysinge said:
I would fully expect NL clubs to fight it. Just as the AL will not want to go back the NL teams won't want it. An extra reliever costs a couple of million. Going out and paying another decent hitter that only hits (a la sloppi) will cost 10 to 20 million. I kind of like the leagues being different. It makes the world series and the clash of styles of play more interesting. If anything get rid of inter-league play.

To get rid of interleague you either have to add or contract two teams and realign divisions at this point. That's not happening. And interleague is a good thing for the simple fact that one division doesn't have an advantage over every other division in baseball.

The DH will be universal soon. I don't get why the NL would fight it at this point, why in the hell would they even want to risk an injury of their $200 million pitchers batting?

Wobbie · April 2015

let me quit giving cliffy shit and post this....a lot of good points, I think.

Why not maintain the DH status quo?

By John Shea SF Chronicle

Nothing fires up the designated hitter debate more than a star pitcher (Adam Wainwright) tearing his Achilles tendon running from the batter’s box, a star pitcher (Max Scherzer) insisting fans prefer watching David Ortiz and a star pitcher (Madison Bumgarner) defending a pitcher’s right to hit.

With all the momentum for a DH in the National League and understanding it might happen, here are five reasons to leave it the way it is (and none include “keep tradition alive,” “we’ve always done it that way” or “get off of my lawn”):

•Fans who prefer NL ball aren’t going away. It’s their preference. They like ballplayers wearing a glove as well as swinging a bat. They like the strategy. They like substitutions and the need for roster depth. They like double switches and pinch-hitting and bunting, and they’d like to see pitchers work a little more in the cage (for a greater chance at success at the plate) and stretch a little more before games (for a greater chance to avoid injuries making athletic moves).

•It’s OK to be different, a spice-of-life thing. Interleague play already lessened the glamour of the All-Star Game and World Series. With a DH in both leagues, why even have separate leagues? Just make it one league, have every team play every other five or six times (to equal 162) and the teams with the top 10 records make the playoffs. The DH is the last difference between the leagues, the only thing that makes them identifiable.

•The DH is not as glorious as it might seem. Ortiz is a dying breed. Managers aren’t generally set on one DH and tend to use it to “rest” position players, keeping them in the lineup without having them play defense. That’s its evolution. A’s manager Bob Melvin used 17 DHs last year. Alberto Callaspo was used the most, and who wouldn’t pay to see that?

•Pitchers who brush back or knock down hitters can’t hide behind the DH rule in the NL. Take Yordano Ventura out of the AL and notice the attitude adjustment.

•Making the DH universal would end the debates, and what’s good in that?

it also pisses me off that guys like sloppi a) pad their numbers b) to maybe get in the Hall c) while making $20M per year and d) prevent a REAL ballplayer from coming up.

Cliffy6745 · April 2015

You are really worried about the 25th guy on the roster? That's the rationale? hahaha

Wobbie · April 2015

Cliffy6745 said:
You are really worried about the 25th guy on the roster? That's the rationale? hahaha

I'm not, but I don't think that was directed at me.

should we also have designated runners and fielders for guys who don't those things well? and, the NL does have DH's....they're called pinch hitters...but you need to keep managing after you give the line-up card to the umps (I'm looking at you, Joe).

norm · April 2015

since when did pitchers become such delicate flowers that they can't, you know, play baseball?

norm · April 2015

watching the Baltimore game is weird

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