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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Drunken crack head then. Enlighten me.

    North Korea has nuclear weapons. You are now enlightened.
    So does Israel, and know the world is starting to be enlightened.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306
    Do have you even read what the actual framework has been reported as being?

    I dont recall NK having EVER been a signatory to the non proliferation treaty.

    So really what is the point?

    THIS deal, why is THIS deal a bad one. Which the entire security council is on board with? Not to mention Germany?
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    mickeyrat said:

    Do have you even read what the actual framework has been reported as being?

    I dont recall NK having EVER been a signatory to the non proliferation treaty.

    So really what is the point?

    THIS deal, why is THIS deal a bad one. Which the entire security council is on board with? Not to mention Germany?

    Because BS is a fucken war hawk and wants all Muslims dead. The guy wants nothing more then for the us to do Israel's dirty work. Just like with resolution 242, the whole world agrees with it except Israel and America. Now America is starting to want to make some peace with Muslims in the Arab world and BS can't have that. He wants war and death to all Muslims.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mickeyrat said:

    Do have you even read what the actual framework has been reported as being?

    I dont recall NK having EVER been a signatory to the non proliferation treaty.

    So really what is the point?

    THIS deal, why is THIS deal a bad one. Which the entire security council is on board with? Not to mention Germany?

    Iran will have a bomb. Some on here think that matters and some on here don't. But make no mistake they will have a bomb.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    edited April 2015
    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Do have you even read what the actual framework has been reported as being?

    I dont recall NK having EVER been a signatory to the non proliferation treaty.

    So really what is the point?

    THIS deal, why is THIS deal a bad one. Which the entire security council is on board with? Not to mention Germany?

    Iran will have a bomb. Some on here think that matters and some on here don't. But make no mistake they will have a bomb.
    You fucken lame ass war mongers have been saying that for the past 30 fucken years. Let me ask you a question BS, does Israel have nuclear weapons?
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306
    BS44325 said:

    Do have you even read what the actual framework has been reported as being?

    I dont recall NK having EVER been a signatory to the non proliferation treaty.

    So really what is the point?

    THIS deal, why is THIS deal a bad one. Which the entire security council is on board with? Not to mention Germany?

    Iran will have a bomb. Some on here think that matters and some on here don't. But make no mistake they will have a bomb.

    Non answer.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Do have you even read what the actual framework has been reported as being?

    I dont recall NK having EVER been a signatory to the non proliferation treaty.

    So really what is the point?

    THIS deal, why is THIS deal a bad one. Which the entire security council is on board with? Not to mention Germany?

    Iran will have a bomb. Some on here think that matters and some on here don't. But make no mistake they will have a bomb.
    You fucken lame ass war mongers have been saying that for the past 30 fucken years. Let me ask you a question BS, does Israel have nuclear weapons?
    Yes
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Do have you even read what the actual framework has been reported as being?

    I dont recall NK having EVER been a signatory to the non proliferation treaty.

    So really what is the point?

    THIS deal, why is THIS deal a bad one. Which the entire security council is on board with? Not to mention Germany?

    Iran will have a bomb. Some on here think that matters and some on here don't. But make no mistake they will have a bomb.
    You fucken lame ass war mongers have been saying that for the past 30 fucken years. Let me ask you a question BS, does Israel have nuclear weapons?
    Yes
    OMG, you answered a question. So let me ask u a follow up. Why is it ok for Israel to have over 200, some of which are pointed directly at the us, but no one else is allowed to?
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    Do have you even read what the actual framework has been reported as being?

    I dont recall NK having EVER been a signatory to the non proliferation treaty.

    So really what is the point?

    THIS deal, why is THIS deal a bad one. Which the entire security council is on board with? Not to mention Germany?

    Iran will have a bomb. Some on here think that matters and some on here don't. But make no mistake they will have a bomb.
    Non answer.

    That isn't a non answer. Without arguing for the time being whether they should have a bomb, under this agreement they will certainly get one. They want one and they will get one. The agreement will prevent nothing. It will just be a paper to wave around to make us feel better.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    Do have you even read what the actual framework has been reported as being?

    I dont recall NK having EVER been a signatory to the non proliferation treaty.

    So really what is the point?

    THIS deal, why is THIS deal a bad one. Which the entire security council is on board with? Not to mention Germany?

    Iran will have a bomb. Some on here think that matters and some on here don't. But make no mistake they will have a bomb.
    Non answer.
    That isn't a non answer. Without arguing for the time being whether they should have a bomb, under this agreement they will certainly get one. They want one and they will get one. The agreement will prevent nothing. It will just be a paper to wave around to make us feel better.

    Again, people like you have been saying this for the past 30 fucken years. And guess what, the only country to get nuclear weapons in that time, your favorite human rights abusers Israel. Funny and sad at the same time.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    Do have you even read what the actual framework has been reported as being?

    I dont recall NK having EVER been a signatory to the non proliferation treaty.

    So really what is the point?

    THIS deal, why is THIS deal a bad one. Which the entire security council is on board with? Not to mention Germany?

    Iran will have a bomb. Some on here think that matters and some on here don't. But make no mistake they will have a bomb.
    Non answer.
    That isn't a non answer. Without arguing for the time being whether they should have a bomb, under this agreement they will certainly get one. They want one and they will get one. The agreement will prevent nothing. It will just be a paper to wave around to make us feel better.
    Again, people like you have been saying this for the past 30 fucken years. And guess what, the only country to get nuclear weapons in that time, your favorite human rights abusers Israel. Funny and sad at the same time.

    Right. And Pakistan and India and North Korea. Countries that want bombs get them.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306
    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    Do have you even read what the actual framework has been reported as being?

    I dont recall NK having EVER been a signatory to the non proliferation treaty.

    So really what is the point?

    THIS deal, why is THIS deal a bad one. Which the entire security council is on board with? Not to mention Germany?

    Iran will have a bomb. Some on here think that matters and some on here don't. But make no mistake they will have a bomb.
    Non answer.
    That isn't a non answer. Without arguing for the time being whether they should have a bomb, under this agreement they will certainly get one. They want one and they will get one. The agreement will prevent nothing. It will just be a paper to wave around to make us feel better.

    Explain how?
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    Do have you even read what the actual framework has been reported as being?

    I dont recall NK having EVER been a signatory to the non proliferation treaty.

    So really what is the point?

    THIS deal, why is THIS deal a bad one. Which the entire security council is on board with? Not to mention Germany?

    Iran will have a bomb. Some on here think that matters and some on here don't. But make no mistake they will have a bomb.
    Non answer.
    That isn't a non answer. Without arguing for the time being whether they should have a bomb, under this agreement they will certainly get one. They want one and they will get one. The agreement will prevent nothing. It will just be a paper to wave around to make us feel better.
    Again, people like you have been saying this for the past 30 fucken years. And guess what, the only country to get nuclear weapons in that time, your favorite human rights abusers Israel. Funny and sad at the same time.
    Right. And Pakistan and India and North Korea. Countries that want bombs get them.

    And don't forget Israel. Mite as we'll include all countries.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,655
    I'm not sure how this morphed into a nuke thread but on that subject, it's always concerned me far more that the US and Russia (and to a lesser degree, the others listed here) have so many nukes:

    Russia: 8,000
    U.S.A.: 7,315
    France: 300
    China: 250
    U.K.: 225
    Pakistan: 100-120
    India 90-110 (Don't 'cha love the uncertainty?)
    Israel: 80
    N.K.: <10 (And, oh how they want to use them!)

    So another nuke or two here or there? Whoopie!

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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    brianlux said:

    I'm not sure how this morphed into a nuke thread but on that subject, it's always concerned me far more that the US and Russia (and to a lesser degree, the others listed here) have so many nukes:

    Russia: 8,000
    U.S.A.: 7,315
    France: 300
    China: 250
    U.K.: 225
    Pakistan: 100-120
    India 90-110 (Don't 'cha love the uncertainty?)
    Israel: 80
    N.K.:

    That list is wrong brian. Israel has over 200 nukes.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    India: Between 90-110 nuclear warheads.
    Israel: Between 80-100 nuclear warheads, with fissile material for up to 200.
    Pakistan: Between 100 to 120 nuclear warheads.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,655
    badbrains said:

    brianlux said:

    I'm not sure how this morphed into a nuke thread but on that subject, it's always concerned me far more that the US and Russia (and to a lesser degree, the others listed here) have so many nukes:

    Russia: 8,000
    U.S.A.: 7,315
    France: 300
    China: 250
    U.K.: 225
    Pakistan: 100-120
    India 90-110 (Don't 'cha love the uncertainty?)
    Israel: 80
    N.K.:

    That list is wrong brian. Israel has over 200 nukes.
    Fucking Google, haha!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    Do have you even read what the actual framework has been reported as being?

    I dont recall NK having EVER been a signatory to the non proliferation treaty.

    So really what is the point?

    THIS deal, why is THIS deal a bad one. Which the entire security council is on board with? Not to mention Germany?

    Iran will have a bomb. Some on here think that matters and some on here don't. But make no mistake they will have a bomb.
    Non answer.
    That isn't a non answer. Without arguing for the time being whether they should have a bomb, under this agreement they will certainly get one. They want one and they will get one. The agreement will prevent nothing. It will just be a paper to wave around to make us feel better.
    Explain how?

    It is all about intention. Ask yourself...does this Iranian regime want a bomb? The answer is yes. If they want one they will get one. They will not be beholden to a piece of paper. The agreement will just by them time.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    Do have you even read what the actual framework has been reported as being?

    I dont recall NK having EVER been a signatory to the non proliferation treaty.

    So really what is the point?

    THIS deal, why is THIS deal a bad one. Which the entire security council is on board with? Not to mention Germany?

    Iran will have a bomb. Some on here think that matters and some on here don't. But make no mistake they will have a bomb.
    Non answer.
    That isn't a non answer. Without arguing for the time being whether they should have a bomb, under this agreement they will certainly get one. They want one and they will get one. The agreement will prevent nothing. It will just be a paper to wave around to make us feel better.
    Explain how?
    It is all about intention. Ask yourself...does this Iranian regime want a bomb? The answer is yes. If they want one they will get one. They will not be beholden to a piece of paper. The agreement will just by them time.

    Ok, so how does no deal prevent them from getting the bomb? How does shutting down centrifuges and opening to inspection increase their potential to make the bomb?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    BS44325 said:

    Do have you even read what the actual framework has been reported as being?

    I dont recall NK having EVER been a signatory to the non proliferation treaty.

    So really what is the point?

    THIS deal, why is THIS deal a bad one. Which the entire security council is on board with? Not to mention Germany?

    Iran will have a bomb. Some on here think that matters and some on here don't. But make no mistake they will have a bomb.
    Non answer.
    That isn't a non answer. Without arguing for the time being whether they should have a bomb, under this agreement they will certainly get one. They want one and they will get one. The agreement will prevent nothing. It will just be a paper to wave around to make us feel better.
    Explain how?
    It is all about intention. Ask yourself...does this Iranian regime want a bomb? The answer is yes. If they want one they will get one. They will not be beholden to a piece of paper. The agreement will just by them time.
    Ok, so how does no deal prevent them from getting the bomb? How does shutting down centrifuges and opening to inspection increase their potential to make the bomb?

    It is currently the shutting down of a lot of centrifuges but not all. This just slows the process even if the agreement is adhered too. The inspection part of the deal has not been ironed out or even really agreed to yet so no one really knows how Iranian actions will be verified in the future. Again even with all this in place it comes down to Iranian intent. If they want a bomb they will have one.

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