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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Mike Richards placed on Waivers by the Kings.

    Don't know why they did this -- must be more back story than 'he sucks.' He sucked last year too and was nails come playoff time. Makes their decision to not dump him in the offseason when they had a chance very foolish. As a Kings fan I hate to see him go -- gotta be something behind the scenes as he said all of the right things publicly about his struggles and acceptance of less time, scratches, etc...
    Shit, the team is rocked by injuries/suspensions, etc...I trust Dean/Darryl but this is a head scratcher. On our books for 5 more years I believe!

    I believe he's making %5.75 per year too
    His body has worn down big time and he's a shell of the player he used to be.
    That decision to resign him may be a huge mistake by Lombardi.
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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,491
    playing much better the past few weeks. Good news about Kimmo and nice win against Washington. Hi Stevie G 4FVerJo.gif
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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,491
    and just when we start getting our shit together we lose Mason image
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  • fife
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    fife wrote: »

    If I am looking to trade here are the players that I think we can actually get rid of.



    both scheen brothers, matt read, Mark strait, coburn, grossman.



    I think think anyone is going to trade for vinny.



    the good news that we have is that our 3 young dman are rated high.


    You didn't put any of your good players on that list? I know you dont want to trade the guys who are good but that is often how you get the picks you want and package the trash you dont want.



    to be honest, of course the flyers have very good players that many teams would want but I tried to put players that i can see the flyers trying to trade not who I would trade. the flyers have a good group of young forwards and a group of what looks to be good dman coming up. I don't see why the flyers would make major changes. I see the flyers being a contender in about 3 years

    I would love to trade vinny but I don't see anyone wanting him. all the players listed to be traded would get something back from teams without disrupting the teams growth
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,924
    fife said:



    fife wrote: »

    If I am looking to trade here are the players that I think we can actually get rid of.



    both scheen brothers, matt read, Mark strait, coburn, grossman.



    I think think anyone is going to trade for vinny.



    the good news that we have is that our 3 young dman are rated high.


    You didn't put any of your good players on that list? I know you dont want to trade the guys who are good but that is often how you get the picks you want and package the trash you dont want.

    to be honest, of course the flyers have very good players that many teams would want but I tried to put players that i can see the flyers trying to trade not who I would trade. the flyers have a good group of young forwards and a group of what looks to be good dman coming up. I don't see why the flyers would make major changes. I see the flyers being a contender in about 3 years

    I would love to trade vinny but I don't see anyone wanting him. all the players listed to be traded would get something back from teams without disrupting the teams growth

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  • The Fixer
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    Brutal game between two bad teams. It's a shame this wasted season is only gonna yield us a #8- 10 overall draft pick.

    This trade deadline will be interesting I expect the Flyers to try and be sellers. The questions is, do they have anything anyone else even wants?

    hopefully they find a team dumb enough to overpay via trade for streit based on his inflated point total.

    also, trade all of the defensemen on the roster not named manning
  • The Fixer
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    and just when we start getting our shit together we lose Mason image

    probably a blessing in disguise. even with their recent mirage of a winning streak, they are a long shot for the playoffs. And even if they sneak in they will be lucky to win a round.

    not easy to watch, but they're better off losing out rest of the year and bettering their draft spot.

    now start dumping guys hextall!!
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    there is not alot of players that the Flyers would want to trade that other will want for the price the flyers paid them.

    lets be realistic, the cap is not going to go as high as some first thought and many cap teams are going to have to get rid of some players that have higher value than the flyers dman.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,880
    Yeah. You want to end up in the top 7 this year. Decent dropoff after that.

    It's going to be tough to get a 1st from a non playoff team as it's pretty clearly delineated now in the easT. And also, because of thst, there is a lot of competition in the sellers market. A decent player on the last year of a deal will be easy to move. Like fife is saying, If a guy has years left, it had better be a decent rate and term.... or a very good player. Canadian dollar has dipped. No more compliance buyouts. Cant bury guys in the ahl. People are cautious with future years.

  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    flyers gave up a second rounder in the macdonald trade (ughhhh -- he's so terrible), so even if they have to eat some money in order to acquire draft picks...that's what they should do.

    hopefully they are active over the next 3-4 weeks
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,491
    should have gotten the win against Montreal, least they got a point.
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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    This team is bad enough not to make the playoffs, but decent enough not to get a good draft pick. The worst!
    I cant stand this crap. They did this last year too and ended up going on a meaningless winning streak to close out the year. Screwed themselves out of a higher pick.
    Then again, this team picked Morin over M. Domi. It will be very interesting to see how that plays out. Domi looks like a potential stud forward and Morin is still a large "project".
    Hopefully Morin can develop into a top 4 D-Man.
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,880
    I was shocked they didn't take domi or zadorov. Especially zadorov. I wanted him to fall to the sabres and thought no way he fell past the flyers there
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    I don't know if Morin is a large project. he did play well in the world jrs. Mayday, I was shocked that they didn't pick zadorov too. as for M. Domi, good player but i think we have to realize that we need good home grown dman. also, am I am wrong that domi is playing center which the flyers have a lot of.
  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    fife said:

    I don't know if Morin is a large project. he did play well in the world jrs. Mayday, I was shocked that they didn't pick zadorov too. as for M. Domi, good player but i think we have to realize that we need good home grown dman. also, am I am wrong that domi is playing center which the flyers have a lot of.

    Thats the only reason they most likely picked him, the organizations need for in-house defensemen. Let's be honest, they were also hoping for Pronger 2.0, but we know the odds of him being that good are pretty slim.
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  • Dr. Delight
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    Mayday, what do you think about that Blockbuster Wpg trade?????
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  • MayDay10
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    Mayday, what do you think about that Blockbuster Wpg trade?????

    I like it based on the sabres getting the best player in the deal. Bogosian too is good.

    Myers was going to get traded and never got near the level and consistency of his rookie year. Stafford is a Ufa and gone. Arma hasn't been tearing up the ahl but he is still a prospect and former 1st rounder. Brendan lemieux hurts... as does the late 1st rounder.

    Gave up a lot.... and if Kane busts and can't get it together it's a disaster.

    I think it's a good trade for both sides.
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327

    fife said:

    I don't know if Morin is a large project. he did play well in the world jrs. Mayday, I was shocked that they didn't pick zadorov too. as for M. Domi, good player but i think we have to realize that we need good home grown dman. also, am I am wrong that domi is playing center which the flyers have a lot of.

    Thats the only reason they most likely picked him, the organizations need for in-house defensemen. Let's be honest, they were also hoping for Pronger 2.0, but we know the odds of him being that good are pretty slim.
    if you look at most winning teams, they build from the draft. the flyers have always been a free agent team.

    I don't think they were looking for a Pronger 2.0 cause pronger is a HOFer and one of the best dman to ever play the game. For me Morin is a solid dman so far but has many things to improve such as his speed but i like his shot and I like from what I have seen his hockey IQ. in 5 years, the flyer defense willbe one of the best in the NHl.
  • Dr. Delight
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    IMO, the Flyers will be lucky if one of Morin, Ghost or Haag becomes a solid D-man. Thats just how it goes. Nothing is a given. Ghost already has a significant injury under his belt.
    My Pronger comment is based on them watching him go down right in front of their eyes. No doubt about it that they were looking for a D-man built in the same mold as him.
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  • Dr. Delight
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    Yeah, Buff got a 1st Line player and a Top pair D-man and only gave up their last first round pick and some prospects. Myers was overrated nd is still nothing but potential.
    Kanes attitude is gonna be the biggest question mark. But Eichel or McDavid playing alongside of him is already a pretty damn good start.
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