*** 1948 * 1949 * 1960 * 2017 * 2024...YOUR SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS: THE PHILADELPHIA EAGLES ***
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was a good game. doesn't change the fact that OSU shouldnt be in playoffs
yes, it does.
I'll go away but their so-called "bad loss" (VT) happened ages ago in JT Barrett's second career start. Urban has got that team playing well. That's why he's making the big bucks.
carry on.
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was a good game. doesn't change the fact that OSU shouldnt be in playoffs
yes, it does.
I'll go away but their so-called "bad loss" (VT) happened ages ago in JT Barrett's second career start. Urban has got that team playing well. That's why he's making the big bucks.
carry on.
of the six teams in contention for the playoffs, Ohio St had the worst loss (by far). It doesn't matter who played for them...or when the game was. You cannot overlook that their loss was BY FAR the worst of the bunch, which should have ruined their resume.
The selection committee wanted the big 10 in the playoffs because they are the richest conference. The entire selection process is a joke and bad for college football. Great game, but TCU should have been in the playoffs over OSU...they would have done the same thing to bama.
Not gonna change anything, so yeah, not much point in arguing about it.
And for the record, I think Ohio St has a great chance to beat Oregon. Urban Meyer is right there with Saban in terms of being the best coach in the country.
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looks like my buddy is on point...beat it chip!
http://deadspin.com/whats-going-on-with-chip-kelly-and-the-eagles-16771487020 -
kelly not fired. damn you lurie...gave me blue balls.
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good god, the media is horrible at their jobs. of course chip was not going anywhere after these first couple years. funny watching and listening to people freak out today. fucking twitter. this is essentially the same thing that happened 15 years ago with andy and tom modrack. howie is the new joe banner and chip now has to find his tom heckert.
saddle up chip haters, he's in this for the long haul. at least, 3 to 4 years from now, we'll know who made the moves and know who to blame if things don't work out.
gotta think lurie saw what happened in sf with harbaugh and baalke and wanted to prevent the same kinda thing of happening here. say what you want about the eagles, but they have a good owner.
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http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/jeffrey-lurie-had-no-choice-put-chip-kelly-charge
Jeffrey Lurie had no choice but to put Chip Kelly in charge
Howie Roseman (left) received a promotion and new title, but in shaking up the Eagles' front office, owner Jeffrey Lurie (middle) put Chip Kelly in charge of player personnel. (USA Today Images)
Eagles owner Jeff Lurie had no choice. He did the only thing he could possibly do in the long-term interest of the team he’s owned for more than 20 years.
He demoted the one person in the organization he’s closest to.
The Eagles are calling general manager Howie Roseman’s new role a promotion (see story). But let’s be honest. They gave him a contract extension and a fancy corporate title, but in reality, Lurie wiped Roseman of his key general manager duties five days after telling reporters Roseman would “absolutely” return in 2015 as the Eagles’ general manager.
By doing so, Lurie found a way to restore some much-needed health and sanity to the Eagles’ teetering front office and retain head coach Chip Kelly, who has led the team to consecutive 10-6 seasons after replacing Andy Reid.
To put Lurie’s relationship with Roseman in perspective, keep in mind that Lurie sided with Roseman when Roseman and Joe Banner were locked in a power struggle a few years ago. And Lurie and Banner were boyhood friends. Lurie hired Banner one day after buying the Eagles.
In the years since, he has promoted Roseman every opportunity possible and kept Roseman on the personnel side while losing valuable execs like Tom Heckert, Jason Licht, Ryan Grigson and — just a couple days ago — Tom Gamble, Kelly’s hand-picked personnel guy.
Roseman is a good man who’s worked tirelessly to study personnel and learn how to select players, but his strength is and has always been contracts, salary cap, money.
And it took a furious Kelly following Gamble’s dismissal for Lurie to finally realize that the fractured front office was limiting the Eagles’ success.
Despite his intense loyalty to Roseman, he knew deep down that a front office with good people being forced out on a regular basis, one with a general manager alienating people around him, simply was not going to lead to the championships he’s been chasing for two decades.
So this time, instead of keeping Roseman happy and eliminating whoever his latest rival was, Lurie took powerful action.
Necessary action.
Five days ago, when Lurie was asked after the Eagles-Giants game in the visiting locker room at MetLife Stadium whether Roseman would return as GM, he laughed and shook his head and said, “Is that a real question?”
When told it was, he replied, “Absolutely.”
But the model wasn’t working.
The Eagles haven’t found a Pro Bowl defensive player in the first four rounds of the draft since Lito Sheppard in 2002. They haven’t drafted any Pro Bowl defensive player since Trent Cole in 2005.
Only twice in 10 years since the Super Bowl season in 2004 have the Eagles won a playoff game — 2006 and 2008. The last playoff win came against the Giants six years ago.
And after meeting with Kelly over the past few days, Lurie changed his mind. Something had to change, and it had to be Howie. That had to be incredibly difficult for Lurie to accept and act on, but he did what he did for the long-term health of the franchise.
The Eagles have a better chance to reach a Super Bowl today than they did yesterday.
After 12 years in personnel and five years as general manager, Roseman as of Friday evening now holds the title executive vice president of football operations. According to the Eagles, he’ll continue to be in charge of salary cap and contracts and “NFL strategic matters” and also oversee the training and equipment staff.
And if you don’t think this is a demotion, how would you like to go from picking players in the draft and signing free agents to overseeing the equipment staff?
Kelly keeps the title of head coach but like Andy Reid a decade ago, he will oversee the player personnel department, the team said in a release. His first duty will be to hire a new personnel executive, presumably a general manager.
It’s an incredible amount of power for a guy who’s been in the NFL for a few days less than two years and hasn’t won a playoff game. But Lurie believes Kelly was a special hire, a special football mind, and he’s banking his franchise on it.
It was clear the status quo wasn’t working. Lurie could have kept Roseman and maybe found a way to keep Kelly for another year, and the Eagles might have won 10 more games and maybe made the playoffs.
But he knew that wasn’t a model to win a title.
Ten years ago, the Eagles were in the Super Bowl. With a healthy front office consisting of Lurie, team president Joe Banner, general manager Tom Heckert and head coach Andy Reid, the Eagles went 59-21 from 2000 through 2004 — the fifth-best record over a five-year span in NFL history.
I asked Lurie that week how important it was for a successful team to have a healthy front office with guys who like each other, respect each other and work well together.
“The way Andy, Joe and Tom work together and the job they've done is a huge part of the success we've had," Lurie said that day at the team hotel in Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida. "There's just such a great sense of, 'We're all in this together,' and when you have that, you eliminate all the negativity that you find so often with the people running football teams.
"Joe, Andy and Tom are just very low-ego guys that recognize that, as a group, you can accomplish more than you can as individuals who are more concerned with self-promotion and personal agendas.
"When you're not concerned with who gets the credit, you don't expend any wasted energy. You're just focused on doing the right thing for the organization and the rest is irrelevant.”
Banner, Reid and Heckert are all long gone. And so is the remarkable success the Eagles experienced in the first half of the 2000s.
Since the Super Bowl season, the Eagles have won just three postseason games in 10 years. Only twice from 2005 through 2014 did they advance to the second round of the playoffs.
Lurie had to do something strong, something dramatic, or the Eagles were fated to continue as a second-tier team. Winning more than they lost but ultimately achieving nothing.
If Kelly is the brilliant football mind Lurie believes he is, this was the only way out.
Lurie had to take strong action. He had to end years of front office turmoil if he was going to get his franchise back pointed in the right direction.
A resounding loss for Roseman, a tremendous victory for Kelly and an elegant resolution for Lurie.www.myspace.com0 -
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love the media and fans in this town who balked at Reid for having authority over the roster but somehow now it's a good thing Chip Kelly does. people make me laugh.
Got to be a little concerning that the guy who decided to cut our best receiver who ended up with the most yards per catch this season (with average to shitty QBs) is now fully in charge of the roster decisions. let's hope he makes smarter decisions this off season.0 -
philly sports are dead, for now.If I had known then what I know now...
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love the media and fans in this town who balked at Reid for having authority over the roster but somehow now it's a good thing Chip Kelly does. people make me laugh.
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actually, no. gotta know your history. modrak left in 2001 and reid brought in tom heckert to be director of player personnel (which is what chip is looking for right now). and they worked together. nobody had a problem with that. things worked great. when heckert left in 2009, roseman technically was elevated to replace him, but it was assumed that reid was running the show himself up until the 2012 draft (this is the time when people thought he had too much on his plate).
chip's gotta find his tom heckert, essentially. then it will be like it was over a decade ago, not like it was during the last few disastrous years when reid was running the show by himself. and, for what it's worth, i think a large part of the media and fans are not in favor of this move.Post edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0 -
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we still have Villanova basketball :-S8/28/98- Camden, NJ
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If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14Philly I & II, 16Denver 22
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eeriepadave wrote: »The Juggler wrote: »
we still have Villanova basketball :-S
I just noticed they lost yesterday.
and juggler is all pissy about the Cowboys win.
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14Philly I & II, 16Denver 22
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eeriepadave wrote: »The Juggler wrote: »
we still have Villanova basketball :-S
I just noticed they lost yesterday.
and juggler is all pissy about the Cowboys win.
Rightfully so. But they didn't cover, so it's not a total loss. Hey oh.www.myspace.com0
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