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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,034
    edited November 2014
    His contract is so backloaded it probably won't make sense for him to opt out. Will be interesting to see

    If he is on the marlins in 6 years will be interesting to see what happens. Marlins will be praying he opts out and the first 6 years will be a bargain.

    Interesting situation
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,374
    $68K, every day, for the next 13 years @-)

    I have no problem with these deals.......except that we fans end up paying for them X( . Everybody is getting rich in every sport and ticket prices keep going higher and higher and higher...
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  • F Me In The Brain
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    imalive said:

    $68K, every day, for the next 13 years @-)

    I have no problem with these deals.......except that we fans end up paying for them X( . Everybody is getting rich in every sport and ticket prices keep going higher and higher and higher...

    Thankfully the teams have 80+ home games (depending on playoffs) to generate money in baseball. I agree with your statement completely and the sports with shorter seasons really ream the fans.
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905

    Its risky, but I think Stanton should have waited two years and gone the free agent route for his payday. No way I'd want to be tied to Loria.

    so you're saying you would have turned down 325 million dollars?
    hard to say- and the way the contract is built, he is not turning down all that much. He was a free agent in two years, and with arbitration, he was looking at maybe 7 or 8 million next year and then 12-15 the next. Which I think is close what he gets in the first 2 years of his new deal. Had he not signed, he may have easily have had the same contract, or even more, from the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, etc. And been playing on a team that will try to win.

    Given Loria's history, he could turn and dump his roster after next season if it does not look like they will win. Or half way through the season.
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  • RS151862
    RS151862 Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,726

    Given Loria's history, he could turn and dump his roster after next season if it does not look like they will win. Or half way through the season.

    I'd say theres right around a 0% chance Stanton finishes this contract in Miami.
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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,913

    Its risky, but I think Stanton should have waited two years and gone the free agent route for his payday. No way I'd want to be tied to Loria.

    so you're saying you would have turned down 325 million dollars?


    Given Loria's history, he could turn and dump his roster after next season if it does not look like they will win. Or half way through the season.
    Loria is such a jerkoff. Not shocking at all that Girardi and Guillen only lasted 1 year working for this clown.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,034

    Its risky, but I think Stanton should have waited two years and gone the free agent route for his payday. No way I'd want to be tied to Loria.

    so you're saying you would have turned down 325 million dollars?
    hard to say- and the way the contract is built, he is not turning down all that much. He was a free agent in two years, and with arbitration, he was looking at maybe 7 or 8 million next year and then 12-15 the next. Which I think is close what he gets in the first 2 years of his new deal. Had he not signed, he may have easily have had the same contract, or even more, from the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, etc. And been playing on a team that will try to win.

    Given Loria's history, he could turn and dump his roster after next season if it does not look like they will win. Or half way through the season.
    And he could get drilled in the face again and end his career, or have another injury. I'd take the $325 million when it's offered.
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905

    Its risky, but I think Stanton should have waited two years and gone the free agent route for his payday. No way I'd want to be tied to Loria.

    so you're saying you would have turned down 325 million dollars?
    hard to say- and the way the contract is built, he is not turning down all that much. He was a free agent in two years, and with arbitration, he was looking at maybe 7 or 8 million next year and then 12-15 the next. Which I think is close what he gets in the first 2 years of his new deal. Had he not signed, he may have easily have had the same contract, or even more, from the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, etc. And been playing on a team that will try to win.

    Given Loria's history, he could turn and dump his roster after next season if it does not look like they will win. Or half way through the season.
    And he could get drilled in the face again and end his career, or have another injury. I'd take the $325 million when it's offered.
    Like I said, its hard to say, and a good point, but he has not taken $325 million at this point. if he does have a career injury he is set and the Marlins will be devastated. Or he could be making less than he is worth and the Marlins dump their team and suck for the next 6 years until he can escape.

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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,374

    Its risky, but I think Stanton should have waited two years and gone the free agent route for his payday. No way I'd want to be tied to Loria.

    so you're saying you would have turned down 325 million dollars?


    Given Loria's history, he could turn and dump his roster after next season if it does not look like they will win. Or half way through the season.
    Loria is such a jerkoff.
    yes.....yes, he is.

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  • Wobbie
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    Chubby Billy Butler gets 3/$30M from the As
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited November 2014

    Its risky, but I think Stanton should have waited two years and gone the free agent route for his payday. No way I'd want to be tied to Loria.

    so you're saying you would have turned down 325 million dollars?
    hard to say- and the way the contract is built, he is not turning down all that much. He was a free agent in two years, and with arbitration, he was looking at maybe 7 or 8 million next year and then 12-15 the next. Which I think is close what he gets in the first 2 years of his new deal. Had he not signed, he may have easily have had the same contract, or even more, from the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, etc. And been playing on a team that will try to win.

    Given Loria's history, he could turn and dump his roster after next season if it does not look like they will win. Or half way through the season.
    yeah.

    or he could turn it down and blow out his achilles and lose hundreds of millions of dollars. 100 out of 100 players would have accepted that contract. you're fooling yourself if you think you would even hesitate if put in the same position.

    backloaded or not, it's still 325 million fucking dollars.
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  • Amongst the Ani
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    Hell yeah anyone would have signed that deal. He gets two choices, to opt out after 5 seasons if he keeps his current numbers up so he can hold up the Marlins or another team to tack on a few more seasons at the same rate to re-sign (a la Sabathia a few seasons ago), or he can opt in if he isn't playing that great or has injury issues. He has the Marlins by the balls with that no trade clause to top it off. It is the greatest contract ever for a player in any US sport ever and not just by dollar amount. All that cash and all the power. His agent should get elected right now to the sports agent hall of fame should it exist.

    Loria is a snake as always and doesn't care about all that as he probably has his own plan in motion. He negotiates a new local TV deal in a couple of years. This helps repair his image and he will make a lot of extra cash (Stanton at a bargain and the raised TV rates) on the front part of the deal. In a few seasons he can slash payroll again. If he makes the team bad enough Stanton will want out badly and they can trade him to a team he approves. He could agree to the new team to opt out of that deal after year 5 and then sign a new contract that will make him very rich but more in line with the other top deals at that time. With the way things are going this may not be such an absurd amount by then anyways and the whole agree to opt out may not even matter. Loria is a bastard and the people of Miami should never, ever forget that.
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  • Wobbie
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    after getting the taxpayers to build his new stadium, Loria is actually allowed to sell the team in 2016 (I think)......new stadium + Stanton = tidy profit.
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  • Amongst the Ani
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    Why are the Dodgers so quiet? They must be really focused on trying to trade one of their (many :))) massively over paid outfielders. They have supposedly a ton of money to spend with a ton of holes to fill. Sh*t, they need a whole new bullpen besides closer. There have been zero reports of meetings with players or anything else. I really hope it takes them so long to trade Ethier or Crawford they miss out on all the main guys and end up throwing insane money at Ramirez for short or trading for another big name who is declining with a really bad contract. Friedman and his crew all come from small markets with minimal media and very little fan pressure prior to this. I don't think that market will take a season of Dee Gordon at short when they keep saying they have gobs of cash to spend this offseason yet again.

    They better win this season as Giants win in 2016 of course.
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  • Wobbie
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    ^^^^ they just made their first move: swapping some pitchers with Tampa.
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  • Amongst the Ani
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    I love the Dodgers. Bring in a older relief pitcher with an era over 4 the past few seasons. Nice move Fraudman. Keep it up as Giants fans are smiling. If they wanted a pitcher who gives up runs the Giants have an amazing pitcher that throws 100 mph that might peak your interest. Plus he rarely ever gives up hits. Never mind every one he does give up is a homer, just focus on the fact he gets a lot of k's. Trade for Strickland!

    I also kind of hope Tomas goes to the Padres. I would kind of like to see him on the Giants deep down but to give out 100million without seeing them against AA level pitchers is a little reckless on whomever does it.
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  • Wobbie
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    cdysinge said:



    I also kind of hope Tomas goes to the Padres. I would kind of like to see him on the Giants deep down but to give out 100million without seeing them against AA level pitchers is a little reckless on whomever does it.

    I read a report that says the Tomas sweepstakes is down to Padres and Braves. Agreed......could be a great player, could be a bust.
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  • jervin007
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    Report that the Red Sox will soon be finalizing a 5 year $90 million dollar deal with Hanley Ramirez. Hoping this works out well for the sox. Ramirez seems like a head case at time, and has been often injured, but no denying his ability to hit. Actually signed for less money/years than I thought.

    Will be interested to see how this factors into Sandovals decision. Rumor is that Ramirez might shift to the OF if that is the case. Will also be curious to see how Xander is impacted by this. I would like to see the sox keep him at SS. Hanley would be more suited for 3B or LF.
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  • Wobbie
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    the way the Sox do business is making them more and more dislikable,,,,,"we're so fucking rich we'll just throw stupid money around....if it works, great.....if not, we're fucking rich"

    I do not think these two latest signings are what they need.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    imalive said:

    the way the Sox do business is making them more and more dislikable,,,,,"we're so fucking rich we'll just throw stupid money around....if it works, great.....if not, we're fucking rich"

    I do not think these two latest signings are what they need.

    you're just pissed because you can't wear you're panda hoodie anymore :P