Dear Nugs - Label your Digital Files!!

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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,154
    Ledbetterman10 said:

    Nice to see others still rocking Winamp with the classic skin.

    I've been using WinAmp since '99 & strong. It plays everything I through at it. Never changed the skin. It's always been classic.


  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,154
    edited November 2014
    Ledbetterman10 said:

    Nice to see others still rocking Winamp with the classic skin.

    I've been using WinAmp since '99 & strong. It plays everything I throw at it. Never changed the skin. It's always been classic.
    Post edited by demetrios on
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    demetrios said:

    Ledbetterman10 said:

    Nice to see others still rocking Winamp with the classic skin.

    I've been using WinAmp since '99 & strong. It plays everything I through at it. Never changed the skin. It's always been classic.
    Haven't you noticed that it doesn't find tags anymore? It wasn't as of six months ago, so I moved to JRiver because of it.
    BTW - I have all the shows from 2000+ and I updated their database with my tags. I'd love to know if it actually worked. Took me forever to clean the tags and add the art.
  • ponytd
    ponytd Nashville Posts: 671
    JTH said:

    ponytd said:

    I got the STL show and it was labeled digitally. Although, the labeling was different on CD1 than it was on CD2 and 3, which I just don't understand, but it was labeled

    it wasn't labeled. Most likely, you were the beneficiary of someone else's hard work. They labeled the tracks and then the information was uploaded to Gracenote.
    Good point. I didn't think of that.
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,154
    mrussel1 said:

    demetrios said:

    Ledbetterman10 said:

    Nice to see others still rocking Winamp with the classic skin.

    I've been using WinAmp since '99 & strong. It plays everything I throw at it. Never changed the skin. It's always been classic.
    Haven't you noticed that it doesn't find tags anymore? It wasn't as of six months ago, so I moved to JRiver because of it.
    BTW - I have all the shows from 2000+ and I updated their database with my tags. I'd love to know if it actually worked. Took me forever to clean the tags and add the art.
    Can't remember but WinAmp's services with Gracenote CDDB was over a while now. I make my own with http://www.mp3tag.de/en/ but usually use dBpoweramp Music Converter and just add in the info myself, if there isn't any info that needs editing with.
  • PP193448
    PP193448 Here Posts: 4,282
    Is anyone else having issues loading these CDs to iTunes? My Cincy cd bootleg is all out of order... Frustrating. Going to try to delete it then reload it.
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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    PP193448 said:

    Is anyone else having issues loading these CDs to iTunes? My Cincy cd bootleg is all out of order... Frustrating. Going to try to delete it then reload it.

    Yeah.
    I had to go in and delete the first few characters. then it made it start in order.
    off of the top of my head I think it started with something like d01t01_pendulum.... but I can't remember what came before that I deleted. Try that way in I Tunes and it should work. kind of a pain in the ass but it will look good with CD Text equipped play back units.

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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    edited November 2014
    I use the free JRiver occasionally, I even use windows media player too, now that I have downloaded the FLAC plug in for WMP . For playback, I prefer Winamp, but I like to pull a whole "album" out of it's file folder and play it as opposed to having the whole "library" there to overwhelm me like it does in iTunes...I know where my files are, well except for that Hartford HD FLAC show from 2013....I also don't want WinAmp or any program for that matter making any decisions as far as naming the files or getting album art after the fact. iTunes and WMP have taken it upon themselves to upgrade my plain In Utero artwork to the SUPER DELUXE version. What's up with that?

    My progression of CD rips went from MP3 VBR to MP3 320 (Real Jukebox!...) to WMA 9 lossless, (Windows Media Player and Adobe Audition). and now it's FLAC (Sony Sound Forge Pro 10). I also convert LPs and tapes to a hi bit rate FLAC now using Sony Sound Forge Pro 10.

    I ripped a lot of stuff in the mid to late 2000s to WMA 9 lossless. All 3 players play 'em, and 99 times out of a hundred I can't tell the diff between FLAC-WMA or the MP3 320.

    For the OP, it does suck when you're dealing with "Track 1", "Track 2"....luckily the names of those songs can easily be copied and pasted from a website that will have them all in order for you....

    http://pearljam.com/setlists/1087/2014/22483/acl_festival
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  • Sarava
    Sarava Naperville, IL Posts: 2,061
    I have this vision of Nugs being some guy working out of his mom's basement writing CD-R's and printing out labels on a cheap label printer.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    the tiki bomb said:



    I ripped a lot of stuff in the mid to late 2000s to WMA 9 lossless. All 3 players play 'em, and 99 times out of a hundred I can't tell the diff between FLAC-WMA or the MP3 320.



    http://pearljam.com/setlists/1087/2014/22483/acl_festival


    If you're listening to music through your computer then you won't be able to hear the difference between mp3 and flac 100% of the time. The difference only shows up if you are streaming through a high quality DAC->high quality amp > high quality speakers.
    I think a lot of people spend the money on FLAC but aren't using equipment that can represent the difference.
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    edited November 2014
    100%? No, not for me anyway. I used to think that, but I've got hundreds of shitty sounding low bit rate mp3s with no dynamic range and zero shitty sounding FLACs or lossless WMAs for that matter. For me...Lo bit rate files are immediately noticeable to me phoned BUT not so much when they're properly amped up and speakered up in the living room, especially the louder they're played. The eq is always off.

    I'm running the files through pretty decent phones on my work machine and I have a 96/24 sound card which I run optical cable through the home stereo system in the living room.

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    edited November 2014
    the tiki bomb said:

    100%? No, not for me anyway. I used to think that, but I've got hundreds of shitty sounding low bit rate mp3s with no dynamic range and zero shitty sounding FLACs or lossless WMAs for that matter. For me...Lo bit rate files are immediately noticeable to me phoned BUT not so much when they're properly amped up and speakered up in the living room, especially the louder they're played. The eq is always off.

    I'm running the files through pretty decent phones on my work machine and I have a 96/24 sound card which I run optical cable through the home stereo system in the living room.

    Yeah I hear you. I interpreted that you were listening through computer speakers. Headphones are a different matter altogether. My experience is that when you get really shitty mp3s, it's likely either the rip or it's an old recording. I only buy FLAC or FLAC HD files and have for years (HD is obviously a little new tech). My point is more around people who are just listening to music in their ipod on apple phones or their computer speakers. I don't think they could really tell the difference.
    I stream to skip my soundcard as that's my failure point. I don't have a Xonar or Claro to keep the data HQ so I stream to a DAC -> Pioneer Elite SC -> DefTech 8060 ST. I can certainly tell the difference there.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    edited November 2014
    sorry, this was dup.

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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    mrussel1 said:

    demetrios said:

    Ledbetterman10 said:

    Nice to see others still rocking Winamp with the classic skin.

    I've been using WinAmp since '99 & strong. It plays everything I through at it. Never changed the skin. It's always been classic.
    Haven't you noticed that it doesn't find tags anymore? It wasn't as of six months ago, so I moved to JRiver because of it.

    That's understandable. But does JRiver really whip the llama's ass? Doubt it.
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  • Popmartijn
    Popmartijn Posts: 382
    JTH said:

    ponytd said:

    I got the STL show and it was labeled digitally. Although, the labeling was different on CD1 than it was on CD2 and 3, which I just don't understand, but it was labeled

    it wasn't labeled. Most likely, you were the beneficiary of someone else's hard work. They labeled the tracks and then the information was uploaded to Gracenote.
    Isn't it always like that when ripping CDs? The track information/tags come from a central database (be it iTunes, Gracenote, FreeDB, whatever). And in many cases it stores whatever someone who was first had uploaded to it. I'm not aware that this information is/can be stored on redbook CDs.
  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,405
    Hey Shep,
    I am frustrated as well. I buy CD's for the shows I attended. In the future, I'll probably just do the digital download.
  • mylo
    mylo Posts: 35
    My Pitt 2013 cds don't digitally list the tracks. I keep them in my car and its super annoying when I want to jump around listening to different songs.
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    mrussel1 said:

    the tiki bomb said:



    .....so I stream to a DAC -> Pioneer Elite SC -> DefTech 8060 ST. I can certainly tell the difference there.
    I run a Pioneer DV-37 Elite DVD player as my disc reader...I love that machine.
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