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Wobbie · November 2014

F Me In The Brain said:
Ahh crap, the Cards get better. They must have been update that the Giants are trying to one up them.

espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11892064/atlanta-braves-trade-jason-heyward-jordan-walden-st-louis-cardinals-shelby-miller-tyrell-jenkins

they didn't get better. Heyward gets crappier by the year.

F Me In The Brain · November 2014

imalive said:

F Me In The Brain said:
Ahh crap, the Cards get better. They must have been update that the Giants are trying to one up them.

espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11892064/atlanta-braves-trade-jason-heyward-jordan-walden-st-louis-cardinals-shelby-miller-tyrell-jenkins
they didn't get better. Heyward gets crappier by the year.

Hope you are right! (These things have a way of working out for them.)
And, I also embrace NL Dominance by the Giants vs. having the Cards be that team.

Indifference71 · November 2014

Toronto gives Russell Martin 5 years for $82M. For a 32 year old catcher.....let the ridiculous spending begin!!

F Me In The Brain · November 2014

Indifference71 said:
Toronto gives Russell Martin 5 years for $82M. For a 32 year old catcher.....let the ridiculous spending begin!!

That is a fucking joke. Even for a native of Toronto.

pjsteelerfan · November 2014

F Me In The Brain said:

Indifference71 said:
Toronto gives Russell Martin 5 years for $82M. For a 32 year old catcher.....let the ridiculous spending begin!!
That is a fucking joke. Even for a native of Toronto.

Enjoyed his time with the Buccos' but glad they did not pay anything close to that.

WhatYouTaughtMe · November 2014

Indifference71 said:
Toronto gives Russell Martin 5 years for $82M. For a 32 year old catcher.....let the ridiculous spending begin!!

That is absurd.

RS151862 · November 2014

pjsteelerfan said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Indifference71 said:
Toronto gives Russell Martin 5 years for $82M. For a 32 year old catcher.....let the ridiculous spending begin!!
That is a fucking joke. Even for a native of Toronto.
Enjoyed his time with the Buccos' but glad they did not pay anything close to that.

The Bucs should have locked him up last winter, it would have been much cheaper than 5/82.. They knew what they had and made no effort. They're gonna make the same mistake with Walker, instead of extending now they'll let him walk next winter. They make it impossible to root for them at times.

RS151862 · November 2014

imalive said:

F Me In The Brain said:
Ahh crap, the Cards get better. They must have been update that the Giants are trying to one up them.

espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11892064/atlanta-braves-trade-jason-heyward-jordan-walden-st-louis-cardinals-shelby-miller-tyrell-jenkins
they didn't get better. Heyward gets crappier by the year.

That's a great deal for the Cards. Got a 25 year old Gold Glove OF with 25-30 HR potential. The Cards don't make poor decisions very often.

norm · November 2014

thank you, blue jays.

signed, a dodgers fan

Indifference71 · November 2014

F Me In The Brain said:

Indifference71 said:
Toronto gives Russell Martin 5 years for $82M. For a 32 year old catcher.....let the ridiculous spending begin!!
That is a fucking joke. Even for a native of Toronto.

Yep...just an absolutely ridiculous contract. I really don't get what some of these teams are thinking with these contracts. Unfortunately, this is just the start of all this nonsense....

ledvedderman · November 2014

RS151862 said:

imalive said:

F Me In The Brain said:
Ahh crap, the Cards get better. They must have been update that the Giants are trying to one up them.

espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11892064/atlanta-braves-trade-jason-heyward-jordan-walden-st-louis-cardinals-shelby-miller-tyrell-jenkins
they didn't get better. Heyward gets crappier by the year.
That's a great deal for the Cards. Got a 25 year old Gold Glove OF with 25-30 HR potential. The Cards don't make poor decisions very often.

I think it's basically a wash when it comes to the potential upside of either Miller or Heyward. I think it's a couple of guys who have a lot of potential that could just use a change of scenery. Heyward does have 25-30 potential, but Miller has the talent to be a 20 game winner. He hasn't found his groove yet, but the talent is there.
The thing that bothers me as a Cardinals fan (not a BEST FANS IN BASEBALL fuck), Heyward is a free agent after this season. I'm never a fan of deals when a guy has one year left. He will rip it up on the field and then the price will go up.

RS151862 · November 2014

ledvedderman said:

RS151862 said:

imalive said:

F Me In The Brain said:
Ahh crap, the Cards get better. They must have been update that the Giants are trying to one up them.

espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11892064/atlanta-braves-trade-jason-heyward-jordan-walden-st-louis-cardinals-shelby-miller-tyrell-jenkins
they didn't get better. Heyward gets crappier by the year.
That's a great deal for the Cards. Got a 25 year old Gold Glove OF with 25-30 HR potential. The Cards don't make poor decisions very often.
I think it's basically a wash when it comes to the potential upside of either Miller or Heyward. I think it's a couple of guys who have a lot of potential that could just use a change of scenery. Heyward does have 25-30 potential, but Miller has the talent to be a 20 game winner. He hasn't found his groove yet, but the talent is there.
The thing that bothers me as a Cardinals fan (not a BEST FANS IN BASEBALL fuck), Heyward is a free agent after this season. I'm never a fan of deals when a guy has one year left. He will rip it up on the field and then the price will go up.

I wonder if StL sees Heyward as their long term replacement for Tavares. They certainly have the ability to sign him long term after this season if they wanted to.

tvismyfriend · November 2014

Indifference71 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Indifference71 said:
Toronto gives Russell Martin 5 years for $82M. For a 32 year old catcher.....let the ridiculous spending begin!!
That is a fucking joke. Even for a native of Toronto.
Yep...just an absolutely ridiculous contract. I really don't get what some of these teams are thinking with these contracts. Unfortunately, this is just the start of all this nonsense....

It's a GM trying to save face with the fanbase. Apparently they've been given the go ahead to spend this offseason, so this might just be the first of a few bad contracts handed out by them.

Wobbie · November 2014

RS151862 said:

imalive said:

F Me In The Brain said:
Ahh crap, the Cards get better. They must have been update that the Giants are trying to one up them.

espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11892064/atlanta-braves-trade-jason-heyward-jordan-walden-st-louis-cardinals-shelby-miller-tyrell-jenkins
they didn't get better. Heyward gets crappier by the year.
That's a great deal for the Cards. Got a 25 year old Gold Glove OF with 25-30 HR potential. The Cards don't make poor decisions very often.

If he's got 25-30 HR, then so do I. He hit 11 last year in 149 games. He'll never meet his initial hype.

The Juggler · November 2014

pjsteelerfan said:
Its risky, but I think Stanton should have waited two years and gone the free agent route for his payday. No way I'd want to be tied to Loria.

so you're saying you would have turned down 325 million dollars?

jervin007 · November 2014

imalive said:

RS151862 said:

imalive said:

F Me In The Brain said:
Ahh crap, the Cards get better. They must have been update that the Giants are trying to one up them.

espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11892064/atlanta-braves-trade-jason-heyward-jordan-walden-st-louis-cardinals-shelby-miller-tyrell-jenkins
they didn't get better. Heyward gets crappier by the year.
That's a great deal for the Cards. Got a 25 year old Gold Glove OF with 25-30 HR potential. The Cards don't make poor decisions very often.
If he's got 25-30 HR, then so do I. He hit 11 last year in 149 games. He'll never meet his initial hype.

He is still young and I do think the best is yet to come with Heyward. The Brave definitely brought him up prematurely. Will be interesting to see what the Cardinals organization can do with him. They definitely have a good track record with younger players and have some older veterans would can mentor him.

pjhawks · November 2014

Indifference71 said:
Toronto gives Russell Martin 5 years for $82M. For a 32 year old catcher.....let the ridiculous spending begin!!

not sure what is worse, the 5 years or the $16.4 million per year. just a crazy contract.

as for the Stanton deal...for a guy who never hit .300 or 40 home runs in a season it's unbelievably massive in length and dollars. these teams committing to these years in the contracts are just out of whack. why would you ever give a guy a 10 year deal? seems stupid.

Indifference71 · November 2014

pjhawks said:

Indifference71 said:
Toronto gives Russell Martin 5 years for $82M. For a 32 year old catcher.....let the ridiculous spending begin!!
not sure what is worse, the 5 years or the $16.4 million per year. just a crazy contract.

as for the Stanton deal...for a guy who never hit .300 or 40 home runs in a season it's unbelievably massive in length and dollars. these teams committing to these years in the contracts are just out of whack. why would you ever give a guy a 10 year deal? seems stupid.

A 10 year deal is bad enough, but the notoriously cheap Marlins commit to a 13 year deal?!?!? What a joke....no chance Stanton finishes that contract in Miami.

RS151862 · November 2014

Indifference71 said:

pjhawks said:

Indifference71 said:
Toronto gives Russell Martin 5 years for $82M. For a 32 year old catcher.....let the ridiculous spending begin!!
not sure what is worse, the 5 years or the $16.4 million per year. just a crazy contract.

as for the Stanton deal...for a guy who never hit .300 or 40 home runs in a season it's unbelievably massive in length and dollars. these teams committing to these years in the contracts are just out of whack. why would you ever give a guy a 10 year deal? seems stupid.
A 10 year deal is bad enough, but the notoriously cheap Marlins commit to a 13 year deal?!?!? What a joke....no chance Stanton finishes that contract in Miami.

They signed Hanley to a $100 million deal and traded him a year later.

Assuming he continues his current production its really a 6 year deal. Like Arods first deal, he can opt out after 6 years, become a free agent, and sign a second mega deal like Arod did. His contract will probably look reasonable in a few years once Trout signs for $500 million..

The Juggler · November 2014

RS151862 said:

Indifference71 said:

pjhawks said:

Indifference71 said:
Toronto gives Russell Martin 5 years for $82M. For a 32 year old catcher.....let the ridiculous spending begin!!
not sure what is worse, the 5 years or the $16.4 million per year. just a crazy contract.

as for the Stanton deal...for a guy who never hit .300 or 40 home runs in a season it's unbelievably massive in length and dollars. these teams committing to these years in the contracts are just out of whack. why would you ever give a guy a 10 year deal? seems stupid.
A 10 year deal is bad enough, but the notoriously cheap Marlins commit to a 13 year deal?!?!? What a joke....no chance Stanton finishes that contract in Miami.
They signed Hanley to a $100 million deal and traded him a year later.

Assuming he continues his current production its really a 6 year deal. Like Arods first deal, he can opt out after 6 years, become a free agent, and sign a second mega deal like Arod did. His contract will probably look reasonable in a few years once Trout signs for $500 million..

fucking ridiculous

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